Evra accuses Suarez of racism

[aws]

The media campaign moves on to the next stage. Bluto in the Mail now saying that Suarez has admitted calling him negrito several times.

[Malarkey]

You could argue why was Luis calling him Negrito?

 

I don't think this will be left alone. It'll be either him or Evra getting done.

 

From the lack of evidence, though, I think Evra might get it off the FA. Along with Terry. One white and one black. Diversity.

[redsoxs]

The media campaign moves on to the next stage. Bluto in the Mail now saying that Suarez has admitted calling him negrito several times.

 

 

Got a link?

[TheHitman]

The media campaign moves on to the next stage. Bluto in the Mail now saying that Suarez has admitted calling him negrito several times.

 

To be fair aws, whilst there was a lot of weird stuff in the article from Daniel the manc taylor and his cronies. The later statement put out by Suarez firmly points to a phrase said in Spanish that is the cause of the problem. It only needs the club to put out a statement suggesting he has not used the Negrito phrase to end the speculation, if that is the case.

[Bogman]

@wezlyons you asked a black man if calling him a "black c***" is racist? You truly are a f***ing imbecile Holt.

 

 

@OllieHoltMirror people like you operate by trying to stifle debate. That's where the real danger lies. That makes you the enemy of truth

[ChrisM]

Holt really is a fucking lunatic, much like when his mum, Emily, went mental that time.

[RobbieOR]

Anyone got a link to Blutos article? Im in the mood of laughing.

[Guest TK-421]

As predicted, the accusation of racism against Luis Suarez is now a vastly complex case involving the nuances of South American dialects.

The word Suarez says Patrice Evra heard several times when Liverpool and Manchester United met was negrito, a mockingly mischievous or affectionate term, meaning little black man.

 

 

As alien as that may sound to British ears - and Suarez was a player in Holland before this, remember, so should know better - the phrase is regarded as acceptable, even endearing, by all races in some parts of the Spanish-speaking world and was used in knockabout dialogue between two Spanish Under 21 internationals, Dani Pacheco and Thiago Alcantara, as recently as last week.

Suarez will also no doubt claim that in South America commentators employ the term frequently during live broadcasts. So what is to be done?

It is certainly necessary to remind Suarez of the significant cultural differences between South America and Britain, but should we extend that warning to all Spanish-speaking players on arrival? Is the next step an agreed list of banned words?

The policy of zero tolerance for racism in football is rightly unchallengeable: but as the mix of nationalities in the Premier League grows it may throw up as many questions as answers.

 

 

Read more: Martin Samuel: Alan Pardew's coronation must wait | Mail Online

[RobbieOR]

Cheers Martin.

[ChrisM]

Sounds fair enough to me.

[Major Tom]

The media campaign moves on to the next stage. Bluto in the Mail now saying that Suarez has admitted calling him negrito several times.

 

Surely it's just poor reporting than some media 'campaign'?

 

It's this angle taken by a few on here that I simply don't follow. Do people really believe there is a media campaign going on?

[Nomad]

this is the first time I have heard Negrito means Little black man. I thought it meant Mate or pal etc?

[silverlining]

this is the first time I have heard Negrito means Little black man. I thought it meant Mate or pal etc?

 

Negro is Spanish for black

 

Pal or mate is amigo

 

There are myriad slang words and diminutives

[Trumo]

Where exactly has Suarez admitted using the word "negrito"? All he said in his statement last week is that he used a non-racist word (open to interpretation even if we don't actually know what the word is) which Evra took offence to, but whose reaction to said word caused surprise amongst Evra's teammates, and that they used it all the time too. That word was speculated to be "negrito" in various general media sources, and from trawling through several Liverpool and Manc sites. From that, Bluto has somehow concluded an "admission" by Suarez. Utter shite designed to fan the flames, even though I'm not for a minute suggesting Bluto is somehow on the Manc payroll. He is just an appalling journalist.

 

As for why haven't the club come out with a statement, as asked by a poster earlier. Well, given that the FA are conducting an ongoing investigation and have asked both clubs to keep schtum (ie, NOT fan the flames), we have certainly kept our side of the bargain. Whiskeynose made a point of saying he'd effectively been gagged by the FA, but decided to comment anyway.

[Scousa Tomo]

this is the first time I have heard Negrito means Little black man. I thought it meant Mate or pal etc?

 

The literal translation is little black man, but it is used in the same way we would use mate or pal, it is a term of endearment.

[silverlining]

Sorry, hadn't we all agreed that he said 'negrito' ages ago!

 

It's not really sinister, wasn't racist in intent, but he shouldn't really say it over here because it is culturally insensitive.

 

The End

 

Fuck off Evra. Fuck off Baconface. Fuck off Mancs

[aws]

Surely it's just poor reporting than some media 'campaign'?

 

It's this angle taken by a few on here that I simply don't follow. Do people really believe there is a media campaign going on?

 

I don't think there is a campaign by the media but it looks like there is a PR campaign to the media which (not surprisingly) they're reporting and we all know that if you repeat something often enough it usually becomes the "recognised" truth.

[RobbieOR]

Sorry, hadn't we all agreed that he said 'negrito' ages ago!

 

It's not really sinister, wasn't racist in intent, but he shouldn't really say it over here because it is culturally insensitive.

 

The End

 

Fuck off Evra. Fuck off Baconface. Fuck off Mancs

 

According to 'United sources' he said negrito. Nothing official from us, United or the FA. We dont know what happened.

[Major Tom]

I don't think there is a campaign by the media but it looks like there is a PR campaign to the media which (not surprisingly) they're reporting and we all know that if you repeat something often enough it usually becomes the "recognised" truth.

 

Agree with the last bit for sure, happens all the time.

 

But who is running the PR campaign you refer to?

[zigackly]

But who is running the PR campaign you refer to?

 

Whoever is briefing the media that Luis said "negrito". Which will not be us or Luis. Draw your own conclusions ...

[moof]

Major Tom, do you think it is normal or acceptable that the national press is pigeonholing someone based on nothing but idle speculation and an unsubstantiated claim made by one of this person's rival.

 

Do you think Milliband would get away with calling Cameron a kiddy fiddler unless he could back it up?

[Major Tom]

Whoever is briefing the media that Luis said "negrito". Which will not be us or Luis. Draw your own conclusions ...

 

So you think it's Utd briefing the press. What if they are telling the truth and the word used was Negrito?

 

Clandestine press briefings happen all the time. We're behind the eight ball if we are letting something happen if we don't agree.

[Major Tom]

Major Tom, do you think it is normal or acceptable that the national press is pigeonholing someone based on nothing but idle speculation and an unsubstantiated claim made by one of this person's rival.

 

Do you think Milliband would get away with calling Cameron a kiddy fiddler unless he could back it up?

 

Well pigeonholing someone or something is definitely normal behaviour. People often lose the ability for independent thought. But it's lazy and lame so no, I don't think it is acceptable.

 

Saying that, I don't really think Suarez is being pigeonholed here and if Utd actually are briefing the press, we should counter brief with our version of the truth if he didn't actually use the word Negrito.

Edited November 16, 2011 by Major Tom

[silverlining]

You should change your name to "Uncle Tom"

 

Or "Boring twat". Your choice

[NorwegianRed]

Suarez been charged by the FA for racially abusing Evra. Fuck right off.