Top Ten Conspiracy Theories

[Jairzinho]

Saw that earlier.

 

All the comments on the article are from mid July. Why today then?

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Saw that earlier.

 

All the comments on the article are from mid July. Why today then?

I missed that.  Maybe someone saw fit to bump it in the wake of the Syria vote.

[Jose Jones]

Neither tooth or myself said it had to mean inside jobs, we just posted some info. I mentioned "strangeness", but only after pointing out how people actually got the drill part wrong about Sandy Hook, and that it was a course. And no they don't happen "all the time" in London, and yes to some, it's at least strange.

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah, happens like all the time.

 

Here's the thing that puzzles me about the "terror drill" conspiracy theories.  The conspiracy idea is that the cops or armed forces either:

 

a) hold a crisis drill on exactly the same day that some shit goes down, ergo it was done on purpose because someone was in the know.

2) run an exercise a bit earlier that almost exactly mirrors what then happens, which shows that someone was in the know.

 

In either case, I don't really understand how any either of those scenarios would make it easier to carry out the terror attack.  If, in the first instance, it's supposedly to disguise what is actually happening, then it would actually make it much harder as you'd have a lot more fuzz on the ground paying a lot more attention to what is going on, than if you just had a few well trained blokes getting busy with the bombs on a random day.

 

If the second scenario is to make sure that the emergency services are at least a little bit prepared to help, then why would the evil mastermind care?  You're already turning a blind eye / helping to plan the murder of a load of innocent people, why are you going to care about whether the cops can respond properly? 

 

What am I missing here?

 

 

Edit - Not aimed at you specifically RP, just piggybacked your post to ask a general question.

[Strontium]

Source: Press TV

 

Iranian state television spreading unsubstantiated and malicious rumours about an Iraqi Kurdish politician? Shocked, I am shocked, I tell thee.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Iranian state television spreading unsubstantiated and malicious rumours about an Iraqi Kurdish politician? Shocked, I am shocked, I tell thee.

I was convinced by "According to reports on social networks..."

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Dark rumblings from Facebook...

 

"So. Lord Janner has 'died'. I wonder if, like Leon Brittan, he will be another 'dead' man without a grave and a death certificate dated the day before he 'died'? Strange days indeed....."

[dennis tooth]

http://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/630279/Former-MI5-officer-outrage-claiming-Paris-terror-attacks-inside-job-ISIS-Daesh

[Red Phoenix]

http://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/630279/Former-MI5-officer-outrage-claiming-Paris-terror-attacks-inside-job-ISIS-Daesh

 

Brings up NATO and Gladio too, nice.

[Ginny]

How do you carry out a false flag? Who decides it? I just can't believe that there are people who would dream up these false flaga

[dennis tooth]

You need to watch gladio

[Strontium]

Shayler seems to have gone full retard. What a very sad thing.

[Red Phoenix]

Shayler seems to have gone full retard.

 

[cloggypop]

Shayler seems to have gone full retard. What a very sad thing.

He's gone a bit David Icke for sure.

[Red Phoenix]

[cloggypop]

They Live rep.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

I watched Pimpernel Smith this afternoon and it got me reading up on Leslie Howard - specifically, the mystery surrounding his death, when his plane was shot down by the Nazis in 1943.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leslie_Howard_(actor)#Theories_regarding_the_air_attack

 

A long-standing hypothesis states that the Germans believed that British Prime Minister Winston Churchill, was on board the flight.^[32] Churchill, in his autobiography, expressed sorrow that a mistake about his activities might have cost Howard his life.^[33] The BBC television series "Churchill‘s Bodyguard" (original broadcast 2006) suggested that (Abwehr) German intelligence agents had learned of Churchill's proposed departure and route. Churchill's bodyguard, Detective Inspector Walter H. Thompson later wrote that Churchill, at times, seemed clairvoyant about threats to his safety, and, acting on a premonition, changed his departure to the following day.

Speculation by historians also centred on whether British code breakers had decrypted top secret Enigma messages outlining the assassination plan, and Churchill may have wanted to protect the code breaking operation so the Oberkommando der Wehrmacht would not suspect that their Enigma machines were compromised. German spies (who commonly watched the airfields of neutral countries), may then have mistaken Howard and his manager, as they boarded their aircraft, for Churchill and his bodyguard, as Howard's manager Alfred Chenhalls physically resembled Churchill, while Howard was tall and thin, like Thompson. Although the overwhelming majority of published documentation of the case repudiates this theory, it remains a possibility. The timing of Howard's takeoff and the flight path were similar to Churchill's flight, making it easy for the Germans to have mistaken the two flights.^[34]

Two books focusing on the final flight, Flight 777 (Ian Colvin, 1957), and In Search of My Father: A Portrait of Leslie Howard (Ronald Howard, 1984), concluded that the Germans deliberately shot down Howard's DC-3 to assassinate him, and demoralize Britain.^[16][35] Howard had been travelling through Spain and Portugal lecturing on film, but also meeting with local propagandists and shoring up support for the Allies. The British Film Yearbook for 1945 described Leslie Howard's work as "one of the most valuable facets of British propaganda".^[36]

The Germans could have suspected even more surreptitious activities, since Portugal, like Switzerland, was a crossroads for internationals, and spies, from both sides. British historian James Oglethorpe, investigated Howard's connection to the secret services.^[37] Ronald Howard's book explores the written German orders to the Ju 88 squadron, in great detail, as well as British communiqués that verify intelligence reports indicating a deliberate attack on Howard. These accounts indicate that the Germans were aware of Churchill's real whereabouts at the time and were not so naive as to believe he would be travelling alone on board an unescorted, unarmed civilian aircraft, which Churchill also acknowledged as improbable. Ronald Howard was convinced the order to shoot down Howard's airliner came directly from Joseph Goebbels, Minister of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda in Nazi Germany, who had been ridiculed in one of Leslie Howard's films, and believed Howard to be the most dangerous British propagandist.^[16]

Most of the 13 passengers were either British executives with corporate ties to Portugal, or lower-ranking British government civil servants. There were also two or three children of British military personnel.^[16] The bumped passengers were the teenage sons of Cornelia Stuyvesant Vanderbilt: George and William Cecil, who had been recalled to London from their Swiss boarding school. Being bumped by Howard saved their lives. William Cecil is best associated with his ownership and preservation of his grandfather George Washington Vanderbilt's Biltmore estate in North Carolina. William Cecil described a story in which he met a woman, several months after his return to London, who said she had secret war information, and used his mother's phone to put in a call to the British Air Ministry. She told them that she had a message from Leslie Howard.^[38]

A 2008 book by Spanish writer José Rey Ximena^[39] claims that Howard was on a top-secret mission for Churchill to dissuade Francisco Franco, Spain's authoritarian dictator and head of state, from joining the Axis powers.^[40] Via an old girlfriend, Conchita Montenegro,^[40] Howard had contacts with Ricardo Giménez Arnau, a young diplomat in the Spanish Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Further circumstantial background evidence is revealed in Jimmy Burns's 2009 biography of his father, spymaster Tom Burns.^[41] According to author William Stevenson in A Man called Intrepid, his biography of Sir William Samuel Stephenson (no relation), the senior representative of British Intelligence for the western hemisphere during the Second World War,^[42] Stephenson postulated that the Germans knew about Howard's mission and ordered the aircraft shot down. Stephenson further claimed that Churchill knew in advance of the German intention to shoot down the aircraft, but allowed it to proceed to protect the fact that the British had broken the German Enigma code.^[43] Former CIA agent Joseph B. Smith recalled that, in 1957, he was briefed by the National Security Agency on the need for secrecy and that Leslie Howard's death had been brought up. The NSA claimed that Howard knew his aircraft was to be attacked by German fighters and sacrificed himself to protect the British code-breakers.^[44]

The 2010 biography by Estel Eforgan, Leslie Howard: The Lost Actor, examines currently available evidence and concludes that Howard was not a specific target,^[45] corroborating the claims by German sources that the shootdown was "an error in judgement".^[30] There is a monument in San Andrés de Teixido, Spain, dedicated to the victims of the crash. Howard's aircraft was shot down over the sea north of this village.

[Dr Nowt]

Shayler seems to have gone full retard. What a very sad thing.

There's a section on Shayler being very odd in Jon Ronson's Psychopath Test, as I recall.

[Red Phoenix]

There's a section on Shayler being very odd in Jon Ronson's Psychopath Test, as I recall.

 

Yep, and thanks, have just read it. I'm not sure whether or not to feel sorry for him or if he's still working for MI5/MI6 to discredit conspiracy theorists in general, with his actions and some of the theories he's coming out with. Partly because of general distrust of MI5/MI6, but also because Shayler was also pushing the hologram, no-plane 9/11 theory, which has been suggested by some as a method intended to discredit/tarnish the whole 9/11 movement (most 9/11 theories, or most theorists, go with something more rational than holograms and no-planes as far as I remember.)

 

edit : the article tooth linked covers what I deleted here, about some of his past. Didn't notice it before.

[dennis tooth]

Cia has released lots of interesting ufo files

[Stu Monty]

I've got a theory that Teresa May might be conspiring to keep giving criminally incompetent G4S contracts because it's in her own financial interest, what with her fella having an interest in them.

 

Crazy I know but there you go. 

[Lee909]

A bit like the old links between man power and royal mail. Cut the staff,bring in temps from a company owned by your other half

[dennis tooth]

http://www.trinfinity8.com/zika-virus-mosquitos/

[Red Phoenix]

@highchairkings 4 hrs

UFO caught on tape.

 

[Strontium]

Seems legit:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35575774
 

The former head of Russia's anti-doping agency Rusada has died, the organisation says.

Nikita Kamaev's death comes two months after he resigned his post following a doping scandal in Russian athletics.

Rusada said the cause of death was "a massive heart attack".

Russia was suspended from international athletics last November. The World Anti-Doping Agency (Wada) accused Russian athletics of state-backed doping, corruption and extortion.

[setreal]

@highchairkings 4 hrs

UFO caught on tape.

 

 

Fake.