Summer 2024 Transfer Thread

[TheHowieLama]

Just now, Scott_M said:

If we’re pushing for an equaliser or winner, I agree. Not sure I’d start with it! 

 

Diaz would be immense there.

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5 minutes ago, Scott_M said:

At left wing back?

Diaz, and this goes back to scoring 1 in 4, is probably a better wing back than forward at this point.

[Smell The Glove]

1 minute ago, TheHowieLama said:

 

Don't think so - unless it was to do with him playing in midfield.

Have always said RB in our old system was by far the best use of his skills.

That said - a couple other fellas have done pretty well slotting in for us from fullback so..

Ah we are back to the same. I remember if you don't. You're not a fan of Trent in midfield and give me Bradley above him at right back

 

[TheHowieLama]

1 minute ago, Smell The Glove said:

Ah we are back to the same. I remember if you don't. You're not a fan of Trent in midfield and give me Bradley above him at right back

 

 

That sounds about right.

Trent is not yet a very good midfielder and I imagine most prefer Bradley at RB in this moment.

[Smell The Glove]

Just now, TheHowieLama said:

 

That sounds about right.

Trent is not yet a very good midfielder and I imagine most prefer Bradley at RB in this moment.

So just so I'm clear where does Trent play? Bench?

[TheHowieLama]

4 minutes ago, Smell The Glove said:

So just so I'm clear where does Trent play? Bench?

 

When he recovers he will make the bench.

After that, I don't know where - that is the discussion.

[Creator Supreme]

7 minutes ago, Smell The Glove said:

So just so I'm clear where does Trent play? Bench?

Real Madrid.

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Trent is great, but let's be honest, there are times when thinking about selling him would solve some headaches.

[Smell The Glove]

1 minute ago, 3 Stacks said:

Trent is great, but let's be honest, there are times when thinking about selling him would solve some headaches.

Fucking hell

[Smell The Glove]

7 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

 

When he recovers he will make the bench.

After that, I don't know where - that is the discussion.

Haha. Cheers Gareth

[Lee909]

42 minutes ago, Arnaud said:

Why would we want to move Robbo on ?

 

He's good, reliable, committed, not that expensive surely.

 

Gomez has gotten lots of credits, and he deserves it, but I think Andy Robertson is playing in another world. 

 

 

If we set up 4231 then Robbo is fine, if Xabi does come in and plays his leverkusen system Robbo isn't going to fit as a Grimaldo/Frimpong type. 

[TheHowieLama]

The headache re Trent is the timing of his contract with this injury.

Not sure anyone thinks this year's right back version of Trent can be paid at the level he is now, much less get an increase. He is not the same player he was from RB when he earned that increase for a number of reasons.

I think we would have got a pretty good look at him in midfield these last couple months if he hadn't been hurt. 

[beejay]

Bradley is great,  Trent is great. Find a way to include them both not sell our best assets. Left back is way more of a problem. 

[Barrington Womble]

If we go to a back 3, robbo would be fine playing as part of that. He's not tall, but he's still decent in the air. It'd be no difference really than what he's been doing this season when Trent was playing the hybrid role. 

 

As for Trent being a headache. Fuck me. That's the type of a headache we should be made up to have. 

[TheHowieLama]

sell our best assets

 

I don't think Trent would be for sale per se.

Certainly there is a scenario where a bid could come in from a certain team that he may consider.

[Smell The Glove]

2 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

The headache re Trent is the timing of his contract with this injury.

Not sure anyone thinks this year's right back version of Trent can be paid at the level he is now, much less get an increase. He is not the same player he was from RB when he earned that increase for a number of reasons.

I think we would have got a pretty good look at him in midfield these last couple months if he hadn't been hurt. 

If I'm being honest, I don't think Jurgen has used Trent as well as Guardiola has used Stones. Robbo for me is the reason for that. If we played 3 centre backs like Konate, Virgil, Gomez and let Trent truly roam, that would be so much better. 

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[TheHowieLama]

I can see why you would say that - also understand there are a few reasons why Klopp hasn't and, I don't think any other manager would either.

It's just not a part of the field that allows for much flexibility now, especially in this league.

[Smell The Glove]

12 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

I can see why you would say that - also understand there are a few reasons why Klopp hasn't and, I don't think any other manager would either.

It's just not a part of the field that allows much flexibility now, especially in this league.

I think we all agree it's getting a spare man free and that's easier to find from players coming from defence now. When Salah, Foden, De Bruyne, Saka are smothered having somebody as good as Trent picking up that space from deep is gold now. I still think Man City were quicker to see this that's why they bought defenders to suit. Walker, Ake, Akanji, Gvardiol are all perfect for that system.

[Babb'sBurstNad]

Whilst I agree on Trent's unique skillset, I don't think it's outlandish to envisage a scenario where his inclusion is a potential headache for a new manager.

 

He's not going to go back to just running the flank. It's like latter era Gerrard - you want him in your team, but things have to be shifted around to accommodate him. Some managers don't care for that. 

[Smell The Glove]

1 minute ago, Babb'sBurstNad said:

Whilst I agree on Trent's unique skillset, I don't think it's outlandish to envisage a scenario where his inclusion is a potential headache for a new manager.

 

He's not going to go back to just running the flank. It's like latter era Gerrard - you want him in your team, but things have to be shifted around to accommodate him. Some managers don't care for that. 

Trent is no longer a full back, I'd agree with that. Trent being a headache is just ridiculous. The game has changed loads in just 5 years. Any manager who can't make a unique talent like Trent fit in the modern game isn't worth having.

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1 minute ago, Smell The Glove said:

Trent is no longer a full back, I'd agree with that. Trent being a headache is just ridiculous. The game has changed loads in just 5 years. Any manager who can't make a unique talent like Trent fit in the modern game isn't worth having.

There are loads of great managers who have looked at some great players and thought they would rather not try to make it work.

 

Guardiola has a bunch of examples.

[Barrington Womble]

6 minutes ago, Babb'sBurstNad said:

Whilst I agree on Trent's unique skillset, I don't think it's outlandish to envisage a scenario where his inclusion is a potential headache for a new manager.

 

He's not going to go back to just running the flank. It's like latter era Gerrard - you want him in your team, but things have to be shifted around to accommodate him. Some managers don't care for that. 

 

It's still not a headache to any manager with talent. Trent is one of the best passers of a football in the league. If a manager can't work out how to use that, I would suggest we haven't got the right manager. The last thing we need after the years we've had klopp is being in a manager who's afraid of talent. 

[Smell The Glove]

16 minutes ago, 3 Stacks said:

There are loads of great managers who have looked at some great players and thought they would rather not try to make it work.

 

Guardiola has a bunch of examples.

Which players like Trent has Guardiola given up on? I can think of 100's of forwards managers can't be arsed with but very rare they quit on playmakers. 

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3 minutes ago, Smell The Glove said:

Which players like Trent has Guardiola given up on? I can think of 100's of forwards managers can't be arsed with but very rare they quit on playmakers. 

It's gotta be "playmakers" for it to count, does it? 

 

Cancelo was not dissimilar to Trent in profile and Guardiola unceremoniously dumped his ass, then went in a different direction.

[Scott_M]

Even though I’ve said earlier Trent, imo, wouldn’t be suited to 3-4-3 at right back, I’m absolutely, 1000000%, do not think we should be considering selling him under any circumstances.