Middle East Thread

[Denny Crane]

A piece from well known lefty terrorist sympathiser John Barron of the Conservative party.

 

 

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/dec/01/vote-syria-airstrikes-david-cameron-libya?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

[Guest Pistonbroke]

Strontium is right about some of the Labour MPs who have seized this opportunity to give Corbyn a kicking.

 

Seriously one of their main  gripes seems to revolve around he's consulting the voters.

 

 The revamped lib dems logo is erm eyecatching...

 

 

I hope those bombs have condoms on, being as the Lib Dems like anally fucking their way into 5 minutes of power. 

[Jairzinho]

Almost a bomb for every MP.

[Mr Nando]

Yes lets bomb ISIS in Syria.

 

Never mind the fact that they don't resemble anything like a traditional army or that we shall end up killing thousands of innocent civilians caught up in a religious war (the worst kind). Let's just leave the ISIS trucks, that flow freely over the border between Syria and Turkey carrying the oil that helps fund ISIS and keep sending weapons and supplies to the moderate forces, that somehow end up in use by ISIS.

 

Makes sense.

Prediction. If the vote passes and we do start bombing ISIS, within a year we shall be bombing the shit out of Assad. Hello Libya.

 

Cunt politicians. 

[Rico1304]

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/12/02/world/middleeast/isis-promise-of-statehood-falling-far-short-ex-residents-say.html?smprod=nytcore-iphone&smid=nytcore-iphone-share&referer=https://t.co/H4NjLr5ecX

[Rico1304]

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/12/02/world/middleeast/isis-promise-of-statehood-falling-far-short-ex-residents-say.html?smprod=nytcore-iphone&smid=nytcore-iphone-share&referer=https://t.co/H4NjLr5ecX

[Stu Monty]

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/12/02/world/middleeast/isis-promise-of-statehood-falling-far-short-ex-residents-say.html?smprod=nytcore-iphone&smid=nytcore-iphone-share&referer=https://t.co/H4NjLr5ecX

It's almost as if stopping the likes of Turkey from supporting them by buying their oil and protecting their supply lines might be a more useful plan than bombing them. Isn't it?

[Ranxerox]

I read Corbyn's letter about why he can't support Cameron's proposal. It's very reasonable, logical, and frankly it's hard to understand how anyone could see it otherwise. 

 

Syria is a huge mess and as Corbyn points out there is no coherent strategy being advanced at this time by anyone in regards to the problem of ISIS. 

[VladimirIlyich]

I read Corbyn's letter about why he can't support Cameron's proposal. It's very reasonable, logical, and frankly it's hard to understand how anyone could see it otherwise.

 

Syria is a huge mess and as Corbyn points out there is no coherent strategy being advanced at this time by anyone in regards to the problem of ISIS.

A strategy would involve cutting off funds to the likes of Saudi Arabia and that isnt going to happen.

Where there's a will there's a way but there is no real will,just the pretence of one.

[Denny Crane]

I caught something on the radio about how Barclays banked and transfered a mammoth 1billion from politically exposed clients from the middle east.

 

The bank were content with a Google check to verify who person a was and failed to do any basic checks that would happen if a regular person would take a personal loan out.

 

Certain rules were to be implemented later this year but lobbying from bankers has ensured it has been watered down.

 

The bank has already been punished previously, it seems the more money you have the laxer the controls.

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/barclays-fined-a-record-72m-over-elephant-deal-with-qataris-a6750896.html

[Gnasher]

here's our bbc on Cameron not apologising for calling people terrorist sympathisers at the start of the debate.

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/bbcbreaking/status/672022240406450176

[Strontium]

A strategy would involve cutting off funds to the likes of Saudi Arabia and that isnt going to happen.

 

Unless you can come up with a plan for us to run our motor vehicles on unicorn farts, then no, it isn't.

[Bjornebye]

Unless you can come up with a plan for us to run our motor vehicles on unicorn farts, then no, it isn't.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_car

[Bjornebye]

here's our bbc on Cameron not apologising for calling people terrorist sympathisers at the start of the debate.

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/bbcbreaking/status/672022240406450176

 

@BBCBreaking RT Israeli army are routinely kidnapping & torturing Palestinian children to terrorise them pic.twitter.com/qD2KmEU7zY

[Anubis]

[Mr Nando]

Unless you can come up with a plan for us to run our motor vehicles on unicorn farts, then no, it isn't.

Is this serious?

 

The automotive industry put the breaks on electric/hybrid cars decades ago. (just like why big pharma was so active in its opposition to weed, a plant that grows easily that can help MS, regulate blood pressure and pain? Can't be having that (some indications show that it could also be an anti cancer drug...!) I mean fuck it how many people have ever died from a weed overdose? Fucking no-one, where as in 2012 807 people died from prescription drugs, but people keep telling me it's not all about money) If people weren't concerned with lining their fucking pockets so much, we wouldn't have millions of cars that rely on oil, which then in turn has helped to shape our ridiculously retarded foreign policy over the last few decades. 

[Bjornebye]

I covered that earlier mate.

[Rico1304]

Once battery tech catches up we'll have electric cars, until then they aren't realistic.

[razor]

here's our bbc on Cameron not apologising for calling people terrorist sympathisers at the start of the debate.

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/bbcbreaking/status/672022240406450176

 

Incredible.

 

But the debate is pointless, other than being a bit shouty so they can refer to a "full, frank and robust debate" before he bombs Syria.

 

Collateral damage.  How many people would take killing 3 "civilians" if it meant getting 1 terrorist.

 

"I like them odds"

 

Dehumanise the foreigners.  Easy to live with the slaughter.

[Jairzinho]

Once battery tech catches up we'll have electric cars, until then they aren't realistic.

 

Until then everyone can drive their cars less.

[Rico1304]

Until then everyone can drive their cars less.

Everyone in the world? Good luck with that.

[Jairzinho]

Everyone in the world? Good luck with that.

 

No. Everyone in the UK. We aren't talking about whether Mali or Sweden does business with Saudi Arabia.

[Rico1304]

No. Everyone in the UK. We aren't talking about whether Mali or Sweden does business with Saudi Arabia.

Won't they just sell it to everyone else?

[clangers]

A strategy would involve cutting off funds to the likes of Saudi Arabia and that isnt going to happen.

Where there's a will there's a way but there is no real will,just the pretence of one.

Yep. Stop buying their oil.

 

You can make a perfectly reasonable case for a genuine military strategy, it would involve a substantial commitment for decades. Think 750,000 troops on the ground for 20 years, conscription, attempting to completely rebuild from the ground up and being prepared to accept substantial casualties with no guarantee of a successful outcome. We don't have the stomach for anything other than war light. You'd think by now we would have figured that?

[Nightcat]

"Don't bomb Syria".

 

You can't bomb Syria you uninformed, dumb fools. There is nothing left of Syria to bomb, after your Islamofascist allies, Turkey and Saudi Arabia have destroyed Syria with Isis.

 

There is nothing left of Syria, to bomb. You are debating whether you will finish off isis, or just let the rest do it.