Middle East Thread

[Spy Bee]

@wikileaks  3m3 minutes ago

In letter to UN Security Council today Turkey states Russian jet violated its airspace for "17 seconds".

[TheHowieLama]

Obam supports Turkey for Thanksgiving.

[Stu Monty]

Not sure the Russians are fighting ISIS as much as fighting Syrian rebels opposing Assad.

 

Still, good of Hammond to go into bat for Turkey whilst they aid ISIS by bombing the Kurds and buying their oil. Top ally. Especially when you add in they have now escalated things by bringing down a Russian jet for bombing Syrians that they don't want them to.

 

*Shakes head*

[Anubis]

In Pets At Home last night looking for a shit scoop when I happened upon this little fella among many other rodents, who all looked perfectly happy and had stated lifespans of around 8 years.

 

His drastically shortened lifespan and requirement to live alone as an adult a bit of a give away to his sexual status.

 

Even hamsters eh, Assad?

 

Fucking immigrants. Living off welfare in 7 bedroom hutches, and plotting terrorist atrocities in the puppy-pen.

[Anubis]

That EA Sports top is a dead giveaway. They are mapping the next Call Of Duty.

[Red Phoenix]

Possible extract from a future Guardian article :

 

Strongman President Erdogan Shoots Down Russian Jet as Operation Gladio Continues

 

North Atlantic Terrorist Organization's fifth column, Turkey, has shot down a Russian Jet as it continues to support NATO and its partner, ISIS. One of NATO's Tory puppets, Philip Hammond, expressed "unwavering support for Strongman", and hoped to get either brown envelopes from ISIS oil money, or a nice little deposit in one of his offshore tax haven accounts. Cameron was seen jumping for joy in Downing Street. According to sources from within the U.S. Republican Party, John McCain is to start a 24 hour bender before asking US gov to "attack Russia" on behalf of his defence contractor buddies.

 

"I might not even know where Russia is on a map, but I sure as hell can call for us to attack it. I heard they got Communists, and we've always defended ourselves against those Red Beasts." He said, in a half-drunken statement.

 

Obama called for "calm", and in a statement requested that "we keep up our fight against ISIS, and remain united against this ruthless terrorist group that we ourselves created, funded, and armed."

 

NATO, after repeated requests from The Guardian on NATO's latest Operation Gladio plans, stated that "That operation don't even exist no more. Now get on with writing what the damn MoD told you to, and stay out of our faces yo."

 

Update from Patrick Wintour : Jeremy Corbyn hasn't yet featured in this article, but we'll find something negative to add about him later.

[Red Phoenix]

Erdogan in June, 2012 :

 

Mr Erdogan spoke of Turkey's "rage" at the decision to shoot down the F-4 Phantom on 22 June and described Syria as a "clear and present threat".

 

"A short-term border violation can never be a pretext for an attack," he said. The Turkish jet was on a training flight, testing Turkey's radars in the eastern Mediterranean, he said.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-18584872

[Stu Monty]

Haha, "NATO condemned the attack".

 

It's almost as if the morals of the situation bend entirely to the self-interest of NATO isn't?

[Jairzinho]

Interesting way of spelling "celebrated".

[Spy Bee]

Not sure the Russians are fighting ISIS as much as fighting Syrian rebels opposing Assad.

 

Are they not to some extent one and the same?

 

It's amazing that you can watch RT for free in the UK. It's the opposite propaganda. I bet you they won't have Sky News on in Russia.

[Funkasy]

You wish you payed for it ? 

[Strontium]

Haha, "NATO condemned the attack".

 

It's almost as if the morals of the situation bend entirely to the self-interest of NATO isn't?

 

No, it's entirely as if the situations aren't comparable.

[General Dryness]

[Red Phoenix]

 

https://twitter.com/lindseyhilsum/status/669229613592281089

[Anubis]

WWIII TOP TRUMPS:

 

http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-comparison-detail.asp?form=form&country1=russia&country2=turkey&Submit=COMPARE

[Stu Monty]

No, it's entirely as if the situations aren't comparable.

How do you work that out?

[AngryOfTuebrook]

No, it's entirely as if the situations aren't comparable.

One country shooting down another's fighter plane following a short incursion into its airspace in 2012 is not comparable to one country shooting down another's fighter plane following a short incursion into its airspace in 2015?

 

How so?

[Stu Monty]

One country shooting down another's fighter plane following a short incursion into its airspace in 2012 is not comparable to one country shooting down another's fighter plane following a short incursion into its airspace in 2015?

 

How so?

In the development of the same conflict. Featuring the same nation.

 

After which the Turkish PM stated "A short term border violation can never be a pretext for an attack" and NATO questioned the disregard of international norms.

 

If they aren't in some way worthy of comparison then no two events are.

[aws]

Turkey invaded Greek airspace over 2000 times last year. They regularly invade Syrian and Iraq airspace to bomb Kurds.

[Spy Bee]

Turkey violate Greek airspace 40 times per day: https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/05ATHENS1505_a.html#efmAlIAod

[Jairzinho]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heg_JWpX6cA

[General Dryness]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/middle-east/74425919/us-armys-afghan-hospital-strike-was-tragic-accident

 

Awful. Apparently this happened early october, don't remember reading about it though.

[Jairzinho]

It made our press. Well, a version of events anyway.

[SasaS]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/middle-east/74425919/us-armys-afghan-hospital-strike-was-tragic-accident

 

Awful. Apparently this happened early october, don't remember reading about it though.

 

Are you kidding me?

[General Dryness]

No. I'm not saying it wasn't reported (theres a link to the original story in the link I posted). It was more a comment on my poor memory and the fact that theres so much going on that its hard to keep up.

 

But you carry on with your exaggerated incredulity if it makes you feel better.