At what point in 2002/03/04 did you think...

[Carradona]

..."Right, enough is enough. We need to get rid of Houllier now. He isn't going to take us any further."

[Hermes]

The draw at home to Man City 2003/04, when he brought Biscan on in an attempt to win the game. Or secure the draw more likely.

[Red Nick]

For me alarm bells rang the summer we didnt buy Duff and Anelka, however Diouf first few games seemed to indicate things would be better than I thought then it was pretty clear after three months of that season that he had to go.

[JER]

We played against Newcastle away, and he took off all forwards to protect a draw. At half time.

[jackofdk]

Just looked it up on lfchistory.net. I was late to realize it, it seems.

 

The 0-1 loss against Charlton at Anfield 12.04.2004.

[Unrighteous]

It took me a long time to sour on Houllier. I really thought he'd turn it around.

[GJM]

Home leg of UEFA Cup match v Celtic, March 2003. 0-2 defeat, but it was the gutless performance that made me think that he was on the slidey slope to the dole office.

 

That Kevin Lisbie hat-trick near the beginning of the following season sealed it for me.

[Red Nick]

It took me a long time to sour on Houllier. I really thought he'd turn it around.

 

And there is the lesson for Rafa, once you lose the plot you never get it back or turn it around.

 

Both managers pretty similar in that they divised a system to get us so far but when they have to open up and attack, the team struggles to cope defensively without the defensive protection but as proved if you dont risk losing a game to win a game you will never win the PL

[Carradona]

Yep, the home game against Celtic was the one I was hoping someone would mention. I was only 13 at the time but that was the particular turning point for me.

[Markmywords]

I can't remember exactly but it was just after Christmas in his last season where I thought that he needed to go at the end of the year.

[Barrington Womble]

i heard him on the radio after we beat bolton at home in one of the most boring games i've ever watched ( i think we won 2-0). his excuse for such a shocking show was he claimed "it was important to contain bolton as they were a very good and dangerous team". as soon as i realised he thought Liverpool Football Club should be "containing" sides like Bolton at Anfield, i realised he would never be the man to bring us the league and as the football was so terrible to watch i'd have sacked him that minute. i don't know exactly when that was, but i seem to remember it was in the 2002/3 season.

[zigackly]

When we finished fifth in 02/03.

[zigackly]

When we finished fifth in 02/03. Not sure exactly what point in that season, as it was a gradual clearing of the mist from my eyes, not a road to damascus moment.

[zigackly]

Apologies for the double post above.

[RobbieOR]

Yep, the home game against Celtic was the one I was hoping someone would mention. I was only 13 at the time but that was the particular turning point for me.

 

I was at that game. Fuck me it was depressing. I'd have to say getting beaten by City that year. When Anelka scored twice after joining them instead of us.

[Scott_M]

I never thought that during the 2002 season as we finshed 2nd.

 

In 02/03, I thought I'd give him another season & he could turn it round. Winning the Worthington Cup certainly helped that.

 

By the end of 03/04 I thought he had to go. Can't remember a certain point during the season though.

[Tom R]

Not sure exactly.

 

Bit it was probably long before most of you.

 

Arf!

[Tom R]

I think Boro away when we'd won something like 9 or 10 on the bounce and he played Heskey up front on his own.

 

I seem to remember that being the absolute final straw, but it may have even been before then.

[jamespp]

despite some terrible results, no time in 02/03, i thought it was just a bad season and he would turn it around

 

losing 1-0 to Portsmouth in FA Cup in 03/04 when i thought he should be sacked

[derykw]

During the 12 game winless streak in the 02/03 season.

 

No other top Club in Europe would of tolerated that then and they certainly wouldn`t now.

 

We did then and we`re repeating the same mistake now.

[Kevin D]

I backed him to the end. Looking back I might have been slightly wrong.

[Guest TK-421]

Towards the end of the 02/03 season I'd had enough. We gave him one year too long, in my opinion. It was probably at about midnight, in bed, the time when I do most of my thinking.

[TopMod]

Crystal Palace in the FA cup at Anfield, hated Heskey from that day, he was clean through on goal from the half way line but you just knew he was going to fuck it up. Started to dislike Houllier around then too.

A year later the FA cup game against Portsmouth, I really hated him, not sure exactly when it changed from dislike to hate.

Still hate the cunt.

[Guest]

Celtic at home stands out for me too.

 

There were plenty of lows before and after it too, but I don't ever remember being as low after a game as I was then.

 

It didn't help that it came not long after the 2 Palace cup games either.

[WaltonRed]

Sunderland away when the dream team of Howard Wilkinson and Steve Cotterill outwitted him.

 

I say outwitted, he started Biscan and dropped Sami if memory serves me right.