Russia v Ukraine

[M_B]

I dunno. It's great that the Ukrainians are making an advance, but it looks like an isolated, thin push at this point. I can't see it lasting unless they have reserves to exploit it.

 

Edit: Although looking at the South, it looks like they are trying to isolate Izium. Hope it works out for them.

[neko]

46 minutes ago, SasaS said:

That sounds a lot, because you always have to considered the wounded multiples. They reportedly attacked with under 200,000 soldiers and I saw an estimate they still have about 160,000 in Ukraine, including rotations and furloughs and such.

 

There has been persistent info that they are struggling with new contract soldiers, offering ever bigger signing bonuses, organizing regional volunteer battalions and so on. I doubt that too many wounded rush to get back, although there have been recent reports they are pressurizing people in recovery to get back.

 

DNR which is the only side publishing their losses had it at about 2,500 a couple of months ago if memory serves, with LNR that would be maybe 4,000 dead, possibly 5,000 by now. So with mercenaries and various other, minor categories, way over 50,000. Which would mean Ukrainians are not too far behind (if indeed they are not ahead). And I doubt they would have survived such casualty numbers, 200,000 - 250,000 dead, wounded and captured. Plus those that couldn't take it, deserted or asked for a transfer or demob. 

Yeah, you're probably right. I don't know if they pay out for injuries or not. I tried to find the document, but will keep looking.

[SasaS]

12 minutes ago, M_B said:

I dunno. It's great that the Ukrainians are making an advance, but it looks like an isolated, thin push at this point. I can't see it lasting unless they have reserves to exploit it.

 

Edit: Although looking at the South, it looks like they are trying to isolate Izium. Hope it works out for them.

It looks more than a thin push to me.

 

Even if they don't take Kupyansk, they have already cut the line of communication west of the river from K towards Izyum. They can push south towards Izyum and renew their past efforts through the forests west of Izyum and really put Russians under pressure, because they can only supply it over Lyman from the east where there is much narrower corridor. If they can hold the Chuhuiv - Kupyansk line in the north and push further from Slovyansk over Stari Karavan to the river in the south, Izyum would be impossible to defend for the Russians. They could take everything west of the Oskil river.

 

Assuming Russians don't counterattack with some tremendous force now, of course.

 

In any case, a tremendous morale boost for Ukrainians this. If they can capture and then hold Kupyans and Izyum, that should keep them warm all through winter.

[Rico1304]

 

[Rico1304]

Here’s the captured soldier. 
 

 

[Strontium]

 

[TheHowieLama]

10 minutes ago, Strontium said:

 

DEEZ NUTZ!

[Ne Moe Imya]

This is already probably 12-24 hours old, but a great visualisation of the Ukrainian advance. If Kupyansk is liberated, then the Russian army will have no choice but to retreat from Izyum.

 

 

[Ne Moe Imya]

For anyone wondering how it's going over in Russia the last few days:
 

 

[DJLJ]

5 hours ago, Ne Moe Imya said:

For anyone wondering how it's going over in Russia the last few days:
 

 

Entry level seem to be Male, Caucasian, 70+ years old to get on Russian TV. 

[Rico1304]

Ukraine had better surrender quickly before they end up winning.  

[SasaS]

Flag days continue.

 

 

[Rico1304]

Russian propaganda meeting coming soon.  No Ukranians on the panel - why?

 

Although it would be hilarious if it’s over by then. 

 

 

[SasaS]

If half the rumours currently igniting Twitter are true, they may have to invite Zelensky and Putin to the meeting, because Russians may be ready to sit down and seriously talk about ending it.

Wish everybody would calm down a bit.

 

 

[DJLJ]

https://medium.com/@x_TomCooper_x/ukraine-war-10-september-2022-4db2619d6fe1
 

lots of arrows and even need 2 maps for this one. 

[DJLJ]

Sounds like the Ukrainians have played a blinder the last few days. Putting up signals about attacking Kherson and then when the Russians have started reinforcing the South and moving their troops away from the North, they have attacked and now sounds like liberated both Kupiansk and Izium. It is early days, but sounds like they have the momentum currently atleast. 
 

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-troops-raise-flag-over-railway-hub-advance-threatens-turn-into-rout-2022-09-10/

[SasaS]

When they say war porn, is this what they mean?

 

 

[mattyq]

I'm enjoying immensely watching the Ukranians beat seven shades of shite out of the Russians

Worked with a few of them, Ukranians, that is, and couldn't be happier for them

[M_B]

The BBC says the Russians have given up Izyum.

[SasaS]

 

[Section_31]

Fair play to them but it's the yanks really IMO. 

 

Imagine the havoc modern American intelligence and tech can wreak with an 80s army like the Russians are fielding.

 

It's like when the French were trying to take on panzer divisions with horses. 

 

That's why the Russians have lost so many top brass, the Ukrainians will know the Russian movements before they do. Russians were being tracked in their tanks with their own sim cards. 

[Gnasher]

Putin will end up topping himself, before someone does the job for him.

[Rico1304]

2 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Putin will end up topping himself, before someone does the job for him.

Mate don’t get too upset, it’s not worth worrying about. Even if he does die I’m sure somehow he knows that you had his back right to the end.  Chin up son, chin up.  

[Section_31]

1 minute ago, Gnasher said:

Putin will end up topping himself, before someone does the job for him.

Someone made a point early on in the invasion that the reason it always ends in tears for these people - and you can include Trump and Johnson in this - is because they surround themselves with people who just tell them what they want to hear.

 

Putin is probably still of the belief that his army are doing well, the first he'll realise he's not is when Zalenski is stood outside his black sea condo with a bazooka.

[Gnasher]

20 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

Mate don’t get too upset, it’s not worth worrying about. Even if he does die I’m sure somehow he knows that you had his back right to the end.  Chin up son, chin up.  

Err rightie rightie Rico.