Convince me that [insert here] is ace

[Paulie Dangerously]

Who's been more influential?

 

Prince.  Even I know this

[aRdja]

Who's been more influential?

Kraftwerk, Afrika Bambaataa, Larry Levan, Frankie Knuckles, Juan Atkins, J Dilla to name but a few....

[Paulie Dangerously]

Getting the stun off me regarding music.  TK having a 'mare here

[Pureblood]

Juan Atkins? Haha.

[cloggypop]

Who's been more influential?

Mark Arm.

[Elite]

Checks this isn't a amnesty thread...negs to fuck

Just dont neg me in the arse you deviant.

[lifetime fan]

Just dont neg me in the arse you deviant.

I'm negging you so far up there Im coming out with sweet corn on my bellend.

[aRdja]

Juan Atkins? Haha.

Whether you like the music or not, without Juan Atkins techno wouldn't exist. You go to 'underground' clubs in the US, UK, Europe, South America, Australia, you'd hear techno.

[Pureblood]

Bowie, Page & Plant, Pink Floyd, The Sex Pistols, Black Sabbath, Marvin Gaye, Hendrix & Neil Young.

 

That's just a really quick off the top of my head effort.

Nevermind knocked Michael Jackson off the top of the charts and changed how alternative rock music was perceived forever.

 

The others don't come close but that's just my opinion. It's all highly subjective. Is a young kid picking up a guitar for the first time likely to be inspired by Teen Spirit or Paranoid?

[Elite]

I'm negging you so far up there Im coming out with sweet corn on my bellend.

You sick fuck!

[Pureblood]

Whether you like the music or not, without Juan Atkins techno wouldn't exist. You go to 'underground' clubs in the US, UK, Europe, South America, Australia, you'd hear techno.

Go out and ask 100 randoms who they have heard of, Kurt or Juan. I like Juan Atkins/Tresor label but come on.

[aRdja]

Go out and ask 100 randoms who they have heard of, Kurt or Juan. I like Juan Atkins/Tresor label but come on.

I'm talking about influence not popularity.. Of course Kurt Cobain is more popular... Techno is 'thriving' relatively speaking these days, and the dude started it all... Who plays grunge these days?

[Trumo]

Go out and ask 100 randoms who they have heard of, Kurt or Juan. I like Juan Atkins/Tresor label but come on.

 

Wouldn't that just be a case of people more likely having heard of the person who was influenced by somebody they haven't heard of, if that makes sense?

 

In motoring, the Cadillac Type 53 was nowhere near as popular as the Ford Model T but its basic layout is still the blueprint for cars today. Most people will have heard of the latter but its influence is less about the actual product and more about how mass assembly line production revolutionised the manufacturing process.

[Pureblood]

Obviously Mark Arm trumps everyone but Kurt is a close second.

[Pureblood]

Wouldn't that just be a case of people more likely having heard of the person who was influenced by somebody they haven't heard of, if that makes sense?q

 

In motoring, the Cadillac Type 53 was nowhere near as popular as the Ford Model T but its basic layout is still the blueprint for cars today. Most people will have heard of the latter but its influence is less about the actual product and more about how mass assembly line production revolutionised the manufacturing process.

Sure, if you like.

 

As I say it's all subjective/just my opinion.

 

Also, I was commenting more in the context of rock n roll. Juan Atkins was obviously more influential in the techno sphere. Nevertheless I would say that Cobain had more of an influence on 20th century music than Juan Atkins.

[Mook]

Nevermind knocked Michael Jackson off the top of the charts and changed how alternative rock music was perceived forever.

 

The others don't come close but that's just my opinion. It's all highly subjective. Is a young kid picking up a guitar for the first time likely to be inspired by Teen Spirit or Paranoid?

 

Black Sabbath basically set the blueprint for Heavy Metal, whether you think that's a good or a bad thing, they are hugely influential on modern rock music, a lot of the grunge stuff is directly lifted from their first four albums.

 

I agree that it's subjective though, a mate of mine teaches drums & he says all the kids want to play these days is Dave Grohl stuff so your original point may even go a bit further than Kurt Cobain.

[Trumo]

When you say 20th century music, I take it you mean the last 10 years of that century? Not looking for an argument here, just being a pedantic cunt.

[Pureblood]

When you say 20th century music, I take it you mean the last 10 years of that century? Not looking for an argument here, just being a pedantic cunt.

I'm at work and replying on the fly. I didn't give a great deal of consideration to the phrase.

[Total Longo]

who the hell are these Mark Arms and John Atkins fellas?

[cloggypop]

Mark Arm is out of Mudhoney and taught Kurt a hell of a lot.

[Em City]

I love Nirvana myself, but I fail to see what influence Kurt Cobain really had apart from maybe opportunistic marketing ploys aimed at angsty, sullen teenagers to sell t-shirts with his image on them.

[ZonkoVille77]

Toasted ham cheese and tomato sandwiches with mayo, mustard and HP brown sauce.

[Ian Sea]

American Football and Game of Thrones. I've tried to get into both but haven't been able to. Both massively popular but just seem a bit, well, shit.

[Pidge]

American Football and Game of Thrones. I've tried to get into both but haven't been able to. Both massively popular but just seem a bit, well, shit.

 

Sorry mate, you just haven't sold me on either there. I remain unconvinced.

[Pureblood]

I love Nirvana myself, but I fail to see what influence Kurt Cobain really had apart from maybe opportunistic marketing ploys aimed at angsty, sullen teenagers to sell t-shirts with his image on them.

 

Here's Iggy Pop's take on it:-

 

As for his legacy: He was Johnny B. Goode. He was the last example that I can think of within rock & roll where a poor kid with no family backup from a small, rural area effected a serious emotional explosion in a significant sector of world youth.