Vilas Boas, what happened to him?

[Grinch]

I guess he's like Klopp. A relatively young Eiropean manager with quite a bit of success on his CV.

 

Shame relatively young was the only requirement for FSG when they appointed Rodgers.

[ritchie]

Not many are good examples anyway - most had already made their first big move and won something

 

Allegri for his work at Cagliari got the Milan job for example

 

Ancelotti got Regiana to the top flight so got the Parma job

It depends why you appoint someone as well. Ancelotti was a club legend at Mlilan already and Milan tend to go for ex-players as managers. Guardiola and Enrique wouldn't have got the Barca jobs if they weren't club legends. Simeone was an Atletico legend. It makes it easier to succeed if you know the club inside out and were already successful there before.

 

FSG i'd assume wanted a young manager to come in and implement a dominant possession game (hence Rodgers and Martinez offered the job and not Paul Lambert who'd achieved more with Norwich). Three years in and he's failed to do that which is an indictment on Rodgers as well as the lack of a trophy. The football has been no better this season than under Kenny.

[Bjornebye]

Fuck him.

[TheHowieLama]

It depends why you appoint someone as well. Ancelotti was a club legend at Mlilan already and Milan tend to go for ex-players as managers. 

 

Yes, to a fault.

 

Leonardo, Tassoti, Seedorf, Inzaghi - none qualified for that job

[dennis tooth]

Yes, to a fault.

 

Leonardo, Tassoti, Seedorf, Inzaghi - none qualified for that job

With predicable results.

[cuppatea]

Just on current managers.

 

Van Gaal/league winning before joining the Mancs

Pelligrini/league winning before joining the blue Mancs

Mourinho/CL and league winning before joining them. 

Wenger/league winning before joining Arsenal

 

Guardiola/Bayern No need to mention

Ancelloti/league and CL winning

 

Rudi Garcia- League winning before joining Roma

Allegri - league winning before joining Juventus

 

The main exception to the rule is Barcelona.  One club out of many of the top jobs.

 

I think you misunderstood what I said because that list doesn't refute my point at all.

[Phoenix]

I think you misunderstood what I said because that list doesn't refute my point at all.

Hardly anyone wins anything before they get given the best gigs.

 

Maybe i've taken it too literally.

[TheHowieLama]

Maybe i've taken it too literally.

 

 

I think you are not seeing that all those managers, with maybe the exception of Pellegrini (who tanked on his first "best gig") already had a "best gig" before and won something there

[Phoenix]

I think you are not seeing that all those managers, with maybe the exception of Pellegrini (who tanked on his first "best gig") already had a "best gig" before and won something there

 

Maybe i'm  not seeing places like Lille as "best gigs".

[TheHowieLama]

Maybe that is the only example out of the 8 that makes your point - which is why people have commented on it.

[Phoenix]

Next you're going to tell me Porto were a big gig club in the context of winning the Champions League.

[TheHowieLama]

Next you're going to tell me Porto were a big gig club in the context of winning the Champions League.

 

 

You mean in 87?

[The Golden Eel]

Yes, to a fault.

 

Leonardo, Tassoti, Seedorf, Inzaghi - none qualified for that job

Balotelli could do it though

[Phoenix]

You mean in 87?

 

Yeah exactly that. 1987. Just like Aston Villa in 1982.

[El Dangerous]

Where they at clubs with a similar chance of success as Swansea who were in their first season in the prem?

That's the fucking point.

[TheHowieLama]

Yeah exactly that. 1987. Just like Aston Villa in 1982.

 

 

 

To answer your question directly for Mourinho - being Portuguese - I would say of course it was.

 

This was a club that had won their league 7 of 10 years ( a fair few of those with him there as an assistant) before he came back.

They made it to the semis once and the quarters four times in the CL during that time and played in it every year.

[Dr Nowt]

I must say, cuppatea is trying manfully here, but JP repping your every post in a Rodgers argument is about as helpful to the cause as Joey Essex standing behind Miliband and gurning to camera with his thumbs up.

[JermainePennant]

That's the fucking point.

I know that as the as the answer to my question was clearly no, the only team he came up with Lille had been an established side in the French league and had big name players like Gervinho and Hazard.

[Bjornebye]

Juventus stopper Réal Madrid team of the Champions league with a weapon royal , and qualify to face Barcelona .

 

Read more ... And watch goals HD

 

 

http://goo.gl/COSvAh

Send nudes

[Jairzinho]

Juventus stopper Réal Madrid team of the Champions league with a weapon royal , and qualify to face Barcelona .

 

Read more ... And watch goals HD

 

 

http://goo.gl/COSvAh

 

You fucking royal weapon.

[Kevin D]

Juventus stopper Réal Madrid team of the Champions league with a weapon royal , and qualify to face Barcelona . Read more ... And watch goals HDhttp://goo.gl/COSvAh

Nobody is bigger than the club.

[El Dangerous]

Sadi.tonsd knows.

[Dr Nowt]

Sadi.tonsd, you know nothing lad. Meet me down the alehouse and I'll show you one of General Franco's pubes.

[TheHowieLama]

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