UFC

[Elite]

McGregor is Micky from Snatch.

[Rick Sanchez C-137]

McGregor is Micky from Snatch.

Brad Pickett won't like hearing that

[moof]

McGregor is a fucking superstar. I've watched loads of him recently in and out of the ring and he's impressive in everything he does. Massive fan over here.

[Boss]

McGregor did just about everything wrong that you could do in the fight itself. He was far too close to Mendes which allowed him to shoot for takedowns repeatedly. He was taken down numerous times and elbowed for large portions of the fight, he was cut badly and Mendes had two guillotines almost locked in and yet in spite of it all he still not only got the win but got the stoppage in the 2 rounds he predicted. 

 

He's a tough bastard that lad and mentally incredibly strong, the hype is very much justified. 

[chrisbonnie]

Mcgregor has an ongoing knee injury, and that's one of the reasons his weight cut wasn't as easy as usual.

 

A friend of mine works for the publishing company that is doing his autobiography and he was able to tell me about the knee ages ago. He saw some specialist in Munich just after the Dublin press conference when he snatched the belt.

 

That's another reason he trained in Vegas. So he could get stem cell injections into his knee. No stem cell places here in Dublin.

 

Makes the win that little bit more impressive when you think about it

[Elite]

How do you guys think he'll do against Aldo?

[Raymond Duck]

Christ.

I've watched boxing since I was a kid and I still love it but UFC is my preference. Boxing has lost its sheen to a degree with the antics, the ducking of fighters, relinquishing of belts to avoid other fighters etc. In the UFC, if your number one challenger, you get the title shot, no question.

[Fowlers God]

How do you guys think he'll do against Aldo?

I think it's 50/50. Will go the distance and to the score cards

[moof]

Aldo might be the best p4p fighter in the world but I could see him getting knocked out. You never know.

[matt1983]

I've watched boxing since I was a kid and I still love it but UFC is my preference. Boxing has lost its sheen to a degree with the antics, the ducking of fighters, relinquishing of belts to avoid other fighters etc. In the UFC, if your number one challenger, you get the title shot, no question.

Jon Fitch would probably disagree, but I agree broadly. I can't remember the last big boxing match I enjoyed- I can list whole UFC cards I did.

[Raymond Duck]

Jon Fitch would probably disagree, but I agree broadly. I can't remember the last big boxing match I enjoyed- I can list whole UFC cards I did.

Sure there are examples where a fighter might not have the shot immediately due to style, injury etc. but generally the champ fights who they are told to rather than the ducking that clearly goes on in boxing.

 

I can appreciate Fitch/Askren stylistically as an example but I'm not a fan of watching some one wrestle fuck/grind out victories rather than trying to finish their opponent. This is clearly my personal preference and I completely understand why some would disagree.

 

Like Mayweather in boxing, executing and implementing a strong game plan and negating opponent can be appreciated but generally it's not going to switch on the casual viewer.

 

For those looking to test the the UFC waters. The two main fights in the UFC Saturday should be enough to whet the appetite.

[Chris]

Here's a UFC haiku:

 

Rhonda Rousey rules

Everything else is shit

Boring man grapple.

[Carvalho Diablo]

I don't think it's much coincidence that the rise of the UFC has seen boxing's heavyweight division go to shit.

 

All the best big lads seem to now gravitate towards MMA, which is a shame really.

[Elite]

I don't think it's much coincidence that the rise of the UFC has seen boxing's heavyweight division go to shit.

 

All the best big lads seem to now gravitate towards MMA, which is a shame really.

I don't think soo mate, boxing heavyweight greats are mostly black. I am struggling to think of a elite black UFC heavyweight. Think the demise of heavyweight boxing is due to the big guys turning pro in NFL or basketball.

[Jairzinho]

I don't think soo mate, boxing heavyweight greats are mostly black. I am struggling to think of a elite black UFC heavyweight. Think the demise of heavyweight boxing is due to the big guys turning pro in NFL or basketball.

 

Same reason the West Indies cricket team is shite.

[Carvalho Diablo]

I don't think soo mate, boxing heavyweight greats are mostly black. I am struggling to think of a elite black UFC heavyweight. Think the demise of heavyweight boxing is due to the big guys turning pro in NFL or basketball.

 

Interesting, and you could well be right I think mate. It's defo curious to compare the timeline of MMA's rise against that of heavyweight boxing though.

[Bjornebye]

I blame my outlook on MMA and UFC on the complete twats you see walking round in tapout t-shirts. 

[Fowlers God]

I blame my outlook on MMA and UFC on the complete twats you see walking round in tapout t-shirts.

I'm one of those twats!

[Boss]

If the USA was losing all it's next great heavyweights to the NFL because they'd all rather be linebackers, then logically you'd see the USA dominating every other division in boxing with the exception of the Heavy weight division and that's patently not true. The plight of American boxing has more to do with the fall of the Soviet Union and their fighters subsequently being allowed professional status, the rise in amateurs boxing in the Ukraine, Kazakhstan and the UK and the defection of the elite Cuban amateurs as well as the sport just becoming a much more global sport. 

 

Theres also the taboo aspect of performance enhancing drugs and the move to comprehensive drug testing in most fights which will stop cheaters from abusing the lax testing in place and create an even more level playing field.

[Elite]

If the USA was losing all it's next great heavyweights to the NFL because they'd all rather be linebackers, then logically you'd see the USA dominating every other division in boxing with the exception of the Heavy weight division and that's patently not true. The plight of American boxing has more to do with the fall of the Soviet Union and their fighters subsequently being allowed professional status, the rise in amateurs boxing in the Ukraine, Kazakhstan and the UK and the defection of the elite Cuban amateurs as well as the sport just becoming a much more global sport.

 

Theres also the taboo aspect of performance enhancing drugs and the move to comprehensive drug testing in most fights which will stop cheaters from abusing the lax testing in place and create an even more level playing field.

It's not just the heavyweights though is it? Black athletes have a far broader range of potential careers now than boxing and that is part of the reason.

[Bjornebye]

I'm one of those twats!

I rest my case.

[Rick Sanchez C-137]

I think it's 50/50. Will go the distance and to the score cards

 

Of all McGregors wins, only 2 haven't been finishes. And one of those, he tore his ACL in the fight and went on to win on points.

 

My money is on a McGregor finish. He's just too big for the featherweights. Throws heavy, accurate punches and creates great angles to hit the chin with his strikes.

[Rick Sanchez C-137]

Just to add to that as well, Mendes wouldn't have had a chance to go 5 rounds, full camp or not. McGregors spinning kicks and straights to the body broke Mendes rips and left him all out of puff in no time. Granted he's not always quite as supremely accurate with the kicks, but his striking was outstanding on Saturday.

[Fowlers God]

A full camp? What is a full camp now a days? A quick Google search said Phil Davis said its anywhere between 6-12 weeks. I guessed at 12.

 

Mendes had 9 weeks to train for this camp. The moment Aldo claimed to have picked up the "injury" Dana contacted Mendes and he started training for McGregor.

 

Hats off to McGregor too because of his knee injury did no wrestling or take down defence training in his camp.

 

McGregor is a true champ but lets not forget Aldo is the champ and you don't become the champ without cause.

[Rick Sanchez C-137]

A full camp? What is a full camp now a days? A quick Google search said Phil Davis said its anywhere between 6-12 weeks. I guessed at 12.

 

Mendes had 9 weeks to train for this camp. The moment Aldo claimed to have picked up the "injury" Dana contacted Mendes and he started training for McGregor.

 

Hats off to McGregor too because of his knee injury did no wrestling or take down defence training in his camp.

 

McGregor is a true champ but lets not forget Aldo is the champ and you don't become the champ without cause.

 

Oh I was only putting that in as it was something Mendes alluded to after the fight. Yea a full camp was talked about as 12 weeks. He said he'd like a rematch with a full camp. He was fucked because McGregors accuracy and power to the body fucked him up and broke 2 ribs. And technically McGregor only KNEW he was training for a wrestler with 2 weeks to go. Mendes was always triaining for the same fight, so I don't think his argument holds much water.

 

Aldo is the champ for a reason, granted. I just think McGregor will finish him. I'm no expert, but I've never seen anyone quite like McGregor. If he hadn't allowed himself to be taken down he'd easily have finished Mendes in 1 round. A man who only ever professional losses in 19 fights came to 1 man, Aldo. Saying that, Aldo finished him in 1 round the first time around, but Mendes was an improved fighter for their second fight and could have taken the victory.

 

Its exciting, and a stacked division.