North Korea gettin' all Gangnam up in this bitch.

[Anubis]

Isn't giving them McDonalds just swapping to one form of abuse for another?

[Guest davelfc]

Isn't giving them McDonalds just swapping to one form of abuse for another?

 

i'd give it 5 years before they have obesity problems (not including Pugsly) and jeremy kyle type shows on their TV.

 

In many ways they're far better off as they are, they would just be swapping one dictator for another type.

[Unrighteous]

State media: North Korea in 'state of war' with South Korea - CNN.com

 

(CNN) -- North Korea has entered a "state of war" with neighboring South Korea, according to a report Saturday from the state-run Korean Central News Agency that included a threat to "dissolve" the U.S. mainland.

 

"Any issues regarding North and South will be treated in accordance to the state of war," North Korea's government said in a special statement carried by KCNA. "... The condition, which was neither war nor peace, has ended."

 

North Korea and South Korea technically remain at war since their conflict between 1950 and 1953 ended with an armistice and not a peace treaty. On March 11, the North Korean army declared the armistice agreement invalid.

 

This report represented Pyongyang's latest salvo aimed at South Korea and its ally the United States.

 

Tensions in the area have been ratcheting up for months, with North Korea remaining defiant and, in some opinions, belligerent in the face of international efforts to halt its nuclear program.

 

Saturday's report included a direct threat to the United States, while also asserting Pyongyang "will not limit (itself) to limited warfare but to all-out war and nuclear war."

 

"We will first target and dissolve mainland United States, Hawaii and Guam, and United States military based in South Korea. And the (South Korean presidential office) will be burned to the ground," the KCNA report said.

 

In a statement later Saturday, South Korea did not treat their neighbor's latest threat as anything new.

 

Seoul noted scores of its personnel had entered the Kaesong Industrial complex -- a joint economic cooperation zone between the two Koreas situated on the North's side of the border -- on Saturday morning with hundreds more set to join them later in the day, seemingly suggesting they were going about business as usual.

 

"The announcement made by North Korea is not a new threat, but part of follow-up measures after North Korea's supreme command's statement that it will enter the highest military alert" on Tuesday, South Korea's Unification Ministry said in a statement.

 

A day earlier, same official North Korean news agency reported its leader Kim Jong Un had approved a plan to prepare standby rockets to hit U.S. targets.

 

In a meeting with military leaders early Friday, Kim "said he has judged the time has come to settle accounts with the U.S. imperialists in view of the prevailing situation," KCNA reported.

 

The rockets are aimed at U.S. targets, including military bases in the Pacific and in South Korea, it said.

"If they make a reckless provocation with huge strategic forces, (we) should mercilessly strike the U.S. mainland, their stronghold, their military bases in the operational theaters in the Pacific, including Hawaii and Guam, and those in South Korea," the report said.

 

North Korean state media carried a photo of Kim meeting with military officials Friday. In the photo, the young leader is seated, leafing through documents with four uniformed officers standing around him.

 

On the wall behind them, a map titled "Plan for the strategic forces to target mainland U.S." appears to show straight lines stretching across the Pacific to points on the continental United States.

 

South Korea and the United States are "monitoring any movements of North Korea's short, middle and middle- to long-range missiles," South Korean Defense Ministry Spokesman Kim Min-seok said Friday.

 

 

U.S. officials have said they're concerned about the torrent of threats coming out of Pyongyang in recent weeks.

 

"I think their very provocative actions and belligerent tone, it has ratcheted up the danger, and we have to understand that reality," Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said Thursday.

 

Some observers have suggested that Washington is adding to tensions in the region by drawing attention to its displays of military strength on North Korea's doorstep, such as the flights by the B-2 stealth bombers.

 

 

Threats of annihilation normal for South Koreans

"We, the United States and South Korea, have not been involved in provocating anything," he said. "We, over the years, have been engaged with South Korea on joint exercises. The B-2 flight was part of that."

 

Washington and its allies "are committed to a pathway to peace," Hagel said. "And the North Koreans seem to be headed in a different direction here."

Opinion: Why North Korea regime is scary

 

Amid the uneasy situation, China, a key North Korean ally that expressed frustration about Pyongyang's latest nuclear test, also called for calm.

 

"We hope relevant parties can work together to turn around the tense situation in the region," Foreign Ministry Spokesman Hong Lei said Friday, describing peace and stability on the Korean Peninsula as "a joint responsibility."

 

Behind North Korea's heated words about missile strikes, one analyst said, there might not be much mettle.

 

"The fact is that despite the bombast, and unless there has been a miraculous turnaround among North Korea's strategic forces, there is little to no chance that it could successfully land a missile on Guam, Hawaii or anywhere else outside the Korean Peninsula that U.S. forces may be stationed," James Hardy, Asia-Pacific editor of IHS Jane's Defense Weekly, wrote in an opinion column published Thursday on CNN.com.

 

Tensions escalated on the Korean Peninsula after the North carried out a long-range rocket launch in December and an underground nuclear test last month, prompting the U.N. Security Council to step up sanctions on the secretive government.

 

U.S. officials concerned about North Korea's 'ratcheting up of rhetoric'

Pyongyang has expressed fury about the sanctions and the annual U.S.-South Korean military exercises, due to continue until the end of April.

 

The deteriorating relations have killed hopes of reviving multilateral talks over North Korea's nuclear program for the foreseeable future. Indeed, Pyongyang has declared that the subject is no longer up for discussion.

 

The recent saber-rattling from Pyongyang has included threats of pre-emptive nuclear strikes against the United States and South Korea.

 

Most observers say North Korea is still years away from having the technology to deliver a nuclear warhead on a missile, but it does have plenty of conventional military firepower, including medium-range ballistic missiles that can carry high explosives for hundreds of miles.

 

Having already declared the armistice invalid, North Korea more recently said it was cutting a key military hotline with South Korea.

 

North Korea has gone through cycles of "provocative behavior" for decades, Pentagon spokesman George Little said Thursday.

 

"And we have to deal with them. We have to be sober, calm, cool, collected about these periods. That's what we're doing right now," he said. "And we are assuring our South Korean allies day to day that we stand with them in the face of these provocations."

[Guest davelfc]

I wish some of that hot air they're spouting would make its way over here.

[Anubis]

"The announcement made by North Korea is not a new threat, but part of follow-up measures after North Korea's supreme command's statement that it will enter the highest military alert" on Tuesday, South Korea's Unification Ministry said in a statement.

 

Good to see Kim Jong Un taking up the reins to keep Tuesday as a day of importance while the transfer window is shut.

[SCOUSE TAPAS]

This call my bluff scenario has been going on for years between North Korea and America.

But unlike when Pugsleys dad and his grandad done it and it either all blew over or America never really responded,this time they havent.

This time they dont appear to be letting it drop and if anything are telling them to bring it on.

Which leads me on to why are America reacting different this time?

It wont be down to a simple they have had enough of it all so they have re acted,thats not how they work.

When you consider that even if China keeps out of it,what happens then?

Will America just let it lye if as suspected Pugsley is all hot air?

If they dont then what happens as it borders China and I really cant see them being to happy at the prospects of American bases popping up right on there borders.

America dont usually get involved unless there is something that profits them from becoming involved.

So back to the original point of just why have America reacted differently this time?

Or more worryingly what will they do if Korea do nothing?

Will they just leave it at that or will they decide to take it further?

They have called Pugsleys bluff and that alone seems a bit o f a strange thing to do against a apparentl nutjob with a potential nuclear threat to me.

[Guest davelfc]

I think them having a nuke, rumours that they're working hand in hand with Iran over the nukes and Pugsley being an unknown are the contributory factors here.

 

Them having tested nukes and actually threatening to use them is a huge wake up call. The whole nuclear strategy is based on nobody actually being that mad that they would use them. Puglsey has to be shown that you cannot gain nukes and then go around threatening to use them, simply having them is the deterrent usually.

 

Unfortunately he doesn't seem to understand the etiquette surrounding having nukes and is coming across as a small time comedy bond villain. The US battered Iraq because they thought they had WMD, they've rallied support against Iran because they want them.

 

Lunatic dictators might actually force the big players into having to use their nukes which none of them really want to do. Which is why Pugsley will meet an untimely demise pretty soon if he continues. Either by being shot in the head (short illness) or by being vaporised.

 

The only reason he's not either of them at the moment is because he holds some warped sinister comedy value.

[zigackly]

I think it's very significant that China are staying the fuck out of it, and I wonder what deal the US have offered them.

[AJBlaikie]

I'll suggest that the USA doesn't have the region by the balls, and are afraid to really aggravate China. Nothing ends well when China wants to stick their finger in your eye, because they're pretty slick.

 

That said? North Koreans don't know what McDonalds is at all. They get told shit like "everyone else in the world wishes they lived in North Korea" and stuff like that. Phony polls, and stories saying how great North Korea is, and how they are the most powerful country in the world, and all that noise. Those people have no education on anything outside their borders really. After they saw McDonalds? They'd go all fucking crazy retarded for it, like other Asian countries do...

 

My Mum was working at a school in the 90's that had children over from Russia every year for 2 weeks. They could not take them to Morrisons because they would freak out about the amount of food and choice available so could only take them to the local shops. The worse part was they reckoned the 2 weeks in England would improve their life expectancy by 2 years. It was a rubbish part of Wigan too so god knows what would of happened it they went somewhere nice.

[SCOUSE TAPAS]

I think it's very significant that China are staying the fuck out of it, and I wonder what deal the US have offered them.

I think Dave might be spot on with what he said over it.

That would be why China have kept out as they know Kim Woo Poo Mi Pants is out of order and America are putting them in there place.

[zigackly]

China to buy North Korea?

[Guest davelfc]

SEOUL — South Korea is not sounding any alarms after North Korea's war declaration, saying it does not denote a new threat. But U.S. officials say they are taking it seriously.

 

South Korea's Ministry of National Defense has issued a statement calling on Pyongyang to stop making what it calls unacceptable threats.

 

The ministry also warns that the South's forces are in full readiness posture and will completely punish the North if there is any provocation.

 

South Korea Urges North to Stop Making Threats

 

A simple 'shut the fuck up fatty' would have sufficed.

[Guest davelfc]

The little fat fucker is going to appear on tv tomorrow telling the world it was just an April fools joke. At the moment it's probably his only safe way out.

[Anubis]

He needs to get himself a cat. You can't be taken seriously as a proper Bond villain unless you have a cat.

[Guest davelfc]

He had a cat, but he gets hungry, a lot.

[SCOUSE TAPAS]

He needs to get himself a cat. You can't be taken seriously as a proper Bond villain unless you have a cat.

Well he was a cat owner I hear but he use to let it sleep on his bed.

That is until he woke up in the middle of the night with the munchies and the cat was history.

[Section_31]

The guy needs a friend. The GF should take him to Southport for a go on the gocarts followed by a kickabout on the beech and a ride in the boats for a good perve. At the end of it all he'd be too tired to go out on the lash and would just smile himself to sleep while the GF hits the town and brucespanner pulls a couple of randy types and RL gets into an argument with a tramp about who was the shittest, Steps or S Club Seven.

[Guest davelfc]

He needs a hobby for certain, maybe he needs some sort of sports interest like his dad.

 

But in the 1990s - another moment in time when an event in North Korea varies (some say it happened in 1991 and others in 1994), the late dictator, then 50 (or 53) years old, set a golfing standard that will assuredly never be surpassed. It occurred at the grand opening of the Pyongyang Golf Complex, which contains North Korea's only 18-hole golf course.

 

After picking up a golf club that day for the very first time in his life, the Dear Leader of the Democratic People's Republic of North Korea fired a 38-under-par round of 34 at Pyongyang. According to the 17 security guards who observed the performance, the score included an amazing 11 aces. Naturally, the event was dutifully reported to the North Korean masses by the state news agency.

 

Satisfied with his performance, he reportedly immediately declared his retirement from the sport.

[Anubis]

The guy needs a friend. The GF should take him to Southport for a go on the gocarts followed by a kickabout on the beech and a ride in the boats for a good perve.

 

[Guest davelfc]

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — U.S. F-22 stealth fighter jets arrived in South Korea on Sunday for exercises as part of an effort to demonstrate advanced military capabilities, seeking to deter provocations from North Korea, according to reports.

 

The move come after North Korea warned South Korea earlier in the weekend that the Korean peninsula had entered a “state of war,” according to an Associated Press report. Pyongyang threatened to shut down a border factory that is a symbol of North and South Korean cooperation, according to the report.

 

The Wall Street Journal reported Sunday that the arrival of the stealth jets came after previous examples of U.S. air power that included B-52 bombers and B-2 stealth bombers. The F-22 steal jets are normally stationed in Japan at Kadena air force base but flew to a South Korean base for continuing military exercises. Stealth aircraft more easily evade radar tracking.

 

North and South Korea have technically remained at war for 60 years after the Korean War of 1950 to 1953 finished with an armistice rather than peace treaty.

 

The Wall Street Journal reported that White House and defense officials said they expected more threats from Pyongyang. The report cited a senior administration official who said that while the White House does take North Korean threats seriously the “rhetoric” does follow a pattern that “we have seen for decades.”

 

U.S. flexes muscle after N. Korea provocation - MarketWatch

[Stouffer]

The only reason I can think that the USA are pushing for a fight is because they have China's backing.

 

Very curious.

[SCOUSE TAPAS]

The guy needs a friend. The GF should take him to Southport for a go on the gocarts followed by a kickabout on the beech and a ride in the boats for a good perve. At the end of it all he'd be too tired to go out on the lash and would just smile himself to sleep while the GF hits the town and brucespanner pulls a couple of randy types and RL gets into an argument with a tramp about who was the shittest, Steps or S Club Seven.

I think he should adopt Simon as he is everything Pugsley requires in life.

He could bake him cakes all day long and tell him bedtime stories of his adventures with the gypos.

Who knows Pugsley might even pay off his £1million+ tax bill from his cheque cashing days.

[Guest davelfc]

I think he should adopt Simon as he is everything Pugsley requires in life.

He could bake him cakes all day long and tell him bedtime stories of his adventures with the gypos.

Who knows Pugsley might even pay off his £1million+ tax bill from his cheque cashing days.

 

This worries me, on one hand you would have a total lunatic with no real concept of the outside world, he appears to talk without thinking, he doesn't seem to grasp the shit he is getting himself into and he has mental problems and on the other you have Pugsley.

 

It wouldn't end well, Simon would end up as the new leader of North Korea and then I'd be concerned.

[zigackly]

The only reason I can think that the USA are pushing for a fight is because they have China's backing.

 

Very curious.

 

Perhaps China don't want North Korea to have nukes either. Let's face it, if they did then they would have had them years ago. I assume the deal is that they will stay out of the way as long as the US let them move in when Pugsley is gone.

[Guest davelfc]

Perhaps China don't want North Korea to have nukes either. Let's face it, if they did then they would have had them years ago. I assume the deal is that they will stay out of the way as long as the US let them move in when Pugsley is gone.

 

That is how I see it too. Pugsley under the guidance of his generals is following their usual childish behaviour. Only this time nobody is falling for it, in fact he's having his bluff called on a daily basis.

 

For a country that believed having a nuke would make the world sit up and listen, it must be really annoying. Reminds me of that film "The mouse that roared"

 

As a new leader he has a lot to prove and this is what the US are counting on. They slowly lead him down a path for which is has very little chance of saving face, the result is war or a bullet in the head. I think everyone would prefer the latter for him.