Jump to content
  • Sign up for free and receive a month's subscription

    You are viewing this page as a guest. That means you are either a member who has not logged in, or you have not yet registered with us. Signing up for an account only takes a minute and it means you will no longer see this annoying box! It will also allow you to get involved with our friendly(ish!) community and take part in the discussions on our forums. And because we're feeling generous, if you sign up for a free account we will give you a month's free trial access to our subscriber only content with no obligation to commit. Register an account and then send a private message to @dave u and he'll hook you up with a subscription.

Man City - the new bitters?


Naz17
 Share

Recommended Posts

1 minute ago, El Dangerous said:

What are the chances they have a transfer embargo imposed whilst City ties this up in the courts for the next few years? 

That would open up a whole new legal argument and I doubt the PL would want to go that way. If the PL lost City could then counter claim for damages. From the legal point though such is the seriousness of the allegations if the PL lose I think they are finished, they have no integrity they are better the house. Not sure what happens then. This is beyond huge and goes all the way to governments relations with Abu Dhabi and billions of pounds of trade. PL are calling the directors of City liars and fraudsters.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

10 minutes ago, dave u said:

As for Guardiola, he's a fraud and a liar. "They told me they did nothing wrong and I believe them". Mate, they've already been found guilty and they didn't even appeal it. They just said "doesn't matter what your evidence is, you can't use it as it's over five years old". 

 

He knew there and then they were guilty but he doesn't give a fuck. He should quit today if he's a man of his word, but he's not. So he'll stay until either the players revolt and get rid of him (which isn't far off if you believe recent reports) or until the punishment is handed down and he realises he can't play with a stacked deck anymore.

 

I reckon Pep is a bit pissed off as there's a new baldy weirdo in Manchester and his ego can't take it.  

Link to comment
Share on other sites

In terms of the punishment, future points deductions should not be on the table as that doesn't help anyone who suffered from the cheating and it basically means it was all worth it from City's point of view. A few seasons where they start with a 12 point deficit or whatever, so what? They won't care as they'll have a decade's worth of ill gotten trophies in the cabinet.

 

Transfer embargoes are pointless too.

 

Any points deductions should be applied to the seasons where they were proven to be cheating. I don't know how you can do that fairly. One thing I thought was that all of their results are expunged from the record and the league table recalculated without them in it. But then that might affect who finished in the bottom three and that's a whole can of worms being opened there.

 

All of this merely shows once again that the punishment needs to be so draconian that everyone looks at it and goes "yeah the crime wasn't worth the time". Otherwise what's the point? If its going to be future points deductions or one season in the Championship or a transfer embargo, there's no point even charging them. May as well just let it go.

  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 minutes ago, dave u said:

In terms of the punishment, future points deductions should not be on the table as that doesn't help anyone who suffered from the cheating and it basically means it was all worth it from City's point of view. A few seasons where they start with a 12 point deficit or whatever, so what? They won't care as they'll have a decade's worth of ill gotten trophies in the cabinet.

 

Transfer embargoes are pointless too.

 

Any points deductions should be applied to the seasons where they were proven to be cheating. I don't know how you can do that fairly. One thing I thought was that all of their results are expunged from the record and the league table recalculated without them in it. But then that might affect who finished in the bottom three and that's a whole can of worms being opened there.

 

All of this merely shows once again that the punishment needs to be so draconian that everyone looks at it and goes "yeah the crime wasn't worth the time". Otherwise what's the point? If its going to be future points deductions or one season in the Championship or a transfer embargo, there's no point even charging them. May as well just let it go.

This isn't even 1 years cheating it's 9 years. Its deliberate, fraudulent and coordinated. They can't possible stay in your competition under those conditions. Then there is fit and proper ownership which I don't know can be applied retrospectively but Abramovich is a precedent. Would the EFL accept them as? Huge.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Interesting parallel with Saracens' financial doping in the rugby. They actually couldn't revoke the titles won during the offending period. Which is mad to me.

 

In that case Exeter would have been the most likely winner (top of the table and runner up in the final both years), but understandable that they couldn't be awarded it in Saracens' absence because the playoff and final structure means they may not have won it regardless.

 

Chief Darren Childs admits Premiership Rugby can't strip Saracens of their titles | Daily Mail Online

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, dave u said:

As for Guardiola, he's a fraud and a liar. "They told me they did nothing wrong and I believe them".

 

 

Same with Eddie Howe - 'I don't know any of that there poh-litical stuff, ooh no, I'm just a humble football man, but they told me they were luvverly and that'll do for me'. Funny how trusting these managers get when the owners are billionaires. When it's some old used car salesman in charge of a third division club you'll suddenly get managers marching off at the slightest suspicion of dodgy dealings.

  • Upvote 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 minutes ago, manwiththestick said:

Mad that this massive story has been pushed right down the bottom of the BBC's football page.

 

And when the Super League threatened the PL's own nice cosy financial arrangement they and their cheerleaders were on it like a flash, even that bloated contrarian Martin Samuel, they were all at it, all guns blazing, 'to hell with how rich and powerful the clubs concerned are, to hell with what lawyers they might hire - we won't stand for this and we'll shut it down NOW!' They're deeply conflicted when it comes to sportswashing because the clubs bring in the big name players, throw money around the league and add to the international power of the brand. I doubt the PL is even that sure what it is they're really against here.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

While I don’t think the punishment will fit the crime, Blue Moon is frothing with conspiracy and hatred for all. One poster asked, and I paraphrase,  ‘lots of fans are anxious and unable to sleep because of this, would they be able to sue the PL for bringing on mental health problems?’ Most amusing. 

  • Haha 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, Creator Supreme said:

Nobody with any connection to Man City or Sheikh Mansour will do a single day behind bars!

 

They probably get a £25 fine, and a 3 game touchline ban for baldy bollocks!

 

It's a civil matter not criminal so yes, you're right no one will spend time behind bars!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

45 minutes ago, dockers_strike said:

 

It's a civil matter not criminal so yes, you're right no one will spend time behind bars!

Obtaining a pecuniary advantage by deception is a criminal offence if the police could be arsed to investigate it. But they won’t. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share

×
×
  • Create New...