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Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?

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Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?  

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  1. 1. Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?


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I've got no problem with people not liking Corbyn or even hurling insults at him, I just think accusing people of racism and antisemitism without justification is disgusting, it's probably only one st

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He's not a leader. End of.   I voted for him on a ridiculous whim: the childish idea that it would shake up the establishment to force a non-establishment figure into the mainstream. Little did I i

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http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/jeremy-corbyn-speech-the-establishment-nhs-privisation-a7338186.html     Jeremy Corbyn's conference speech yesterday underlined exactly why he has been subjected

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7 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Which bit do you imagine isn't libellous?

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_defamation_law#Present_law

 

Scroll down a bit to the portion on 'fair comment'.

 

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This defence arises if the defendant shows that the statement was a view that a reasonable person could have held, even if they were motivated by dislike or hatred of the plaintiff. The fair comment defence is sometimes known as "the critic's defence" as it is designed to protect the right of the press to state valid opinions on matters of public interest such as governmental activity, political debate, public figures and general affairs. 


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For an opinion to be fair comment it must be based upon facts, as highlighted in Kemsley v Foot [1952] A.C. 345. The politician and journalist Michael Foot had printed an article in Tribune, a left-wing newspaper, condemning the London Evening Standard for unethically publishing a certain story. Lord Kemsley, who owned other newspapers, maintained that the article's headline, "Lower than Kemsley", impugned the standards of the Kemsley press. The defence of fair comment was allowed to stand.

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The assertion doesn't have to be factual, just an opinion based on facts. The petition lists some of the facts upon which it makes its assertion:

 

For months, events from Jeremy Corbyn’s disturbing past have trickled into the light. Among his many acts during his time as a backbench MP, when he could speak his mind without fear of scrutiny, he blamed Islamist terrorist attacks on Israel; defended an appalling antisemitic mural; honoured a sheikh banned from the UK for saying that Jews drink non-Jews’ blood; said that a Hamas terrorist whose life’s work was the murder of Jews was his ‘brother’; held a repulsive event on Holocaust Memorial Day in which Jews were accused of being the successors to the Nazis; tried to have the word ‘Holocaust’ removed from the title of Holocaust Memorial Day; laid a wreath at a memorial for the Black September terrorists behind the Munich Massacre; made euphemistic comments to suggest that Jews are somehow un-British and foreign to the ways of our country, and more.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Strontium Dog said:

The assertion doesn't have to be factual, just an opinion based on facts. The petition lists some of the facts upon which it makes its assertion:

 

 

 

 

 

Those are not facts. There's a fair few of them are demonstrably untrue. 

 

Try again, Counsel.

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I’ve read the petition. I also read it back in August of last year when it was first released in to the public.

 

It’s all appears to be opinions based on events and how the petition starter has interpreted what he/she feels as fact. When it’s not. 

 

Surely it can’t be that popular an opinion if it’s taken 8 months to get to 50k. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

The mural.

The HMD event.

The wreath-laying.

The "euphemistic comments".

 

The rest of that shit, I don't even know what they're  referring to, but I doubt it's any less false.

He’s a fucking unlucky bastard isn’t he?  Good job you’d give everyone else the same latitude. 

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