Keir Starmer

[Jairzinho]

 

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Britain Elects

 

@BritainElects

 

Westminster voting intention: CON: 41% (+1) LAB: 38% (+1) LDEM: 6% (-2) GRN: 3% (-)

 

 

[Bruce Spanner]

23 minutes ago, Colonel Kurtz said:

I’m guessing you think you know better than the IMF re growth forecasts. It will be 4% - 5% minimum and the Tories can avoid an election for 4 years. Good luck knocking on doors and saying “yes but do you remember COVID/Brexit” after 4 years of a growing economy with restricted low skill immigration and resulting wage growth in marginal seats. I’m not saying it’s a good thing, I’m saying be realistic about the future and it’s 10 years of Tory rule. 

 

Do we have to do this again?

 

I pulled you up on this bullshit last night, stop repeating a lie.

 

Below is from the IMF's report

 

'Despite a rebound as the economy re-opened in the summer, growth for 2020 will likely be around -11 percent, with core inflation below target, and the current account deficit subdued at about 2½ percent.

 

The outlook is challenging. The second lockdown has already dampened activity. Prolonged social distancing in its aftermath and frictions associated with implementation of the new Brexit trade regime are expected to generate strong headwinds through mid-2021 (and for even longer if a free trade agreement cannot be reached). Still, as full re-opening occurs helped by vaccines, GDP is projected to rebound and grow by 5.7 percent in 2021 and about 4.5 percent in 2022. A faster recovery would be held back by corporate and household stress as exceptional fiscal support abates and the economy adjusts structurally to the new landscape once the immediate impact of Covid and Brexit recedes. By 2025, the level of output is projected to recover to about 5 percent below the pre-Covid trend, reflecting weaker investment and higher unemployment in the interim.'

 

https://www.imf.org/en/News/Articles/2020/12/18/pr20379-united-kingdom-imf-executive-board-concludes-2020-article-iv-consultation

 

What do you get out of peddling deliberate mistruths?

 

Accroding to projections we will be -5% on where we were, pre covid/brexit, in five years.

 

A lie repeated often enough an' all tha'

 

@mattyq

[A Red]

24 minutes ago, Numero said:

I don’t know. Quite far I would guess, but I don’t stat-track post topic intervals so I can’t give you an accurate answer. What I will point out is the fact a society and one person who once spoke about my mum’s rotten pussy and called my family rats aren’t the same thing and I want different things for them. One is general and one is specific. 

 

Yes, it is. That was the intention. I can be an incredibly vindictive, hateful, nasty person - especially when somebody comes at the ones I love. It’s also honest. 
 

I’ve answered your questions, which seem utterly ridiculous to me. I didn’t dodge them, I just object to the dishonest nonsense they’re based on. I don’t think you care that a random guy said a nasty thing, I don’t think you care about mental health, I don’t think you care about Gnasher, I don’t think it was anything to do with ego jabs, you just saw an opportunity to have a pop after I negged you earlier. 
 

I’m sure we will both get over it. 

You are a one! I really couldnt give a fuck about you negging me.

 

Thanks for the answer and the view under the surface.

 

 

[mattyq]

39 minutes ago, Colonel Kurtz said:

I’m guessing you think you know better than the IMF re growth forecasts. It will be 4% - 5% minimum and the Tories can avoid an election for 4 years. Good luck knocking on doors and saying “yes but do you remember COVID/Brexit” after 4 years of a growing economy with restricted low skill immigration and resulting wage growth in marginal seats. I’m not saying it’s a good thing, I’m saying be realistic about the future and it’s 10 years of Tory rule. 

Again, fantasy.

Here's the UK GDP growth of the last 4 years

 

2017     1.9%

2018     1.34%

2019     1.46%

2020     -9.76%

 

And you expect me to believe that with a harsh Brexit, an incompetent Tory Government and recovering from a Pandemic we'll grow 4-5% a year? Hahaha, I take back the glue comment, it's full on happy juice and crack cocaine.

Look at the headwinds... trouble in Norn Iron, Scots Indy, brain drain, London rents down the pan, commercial property collapsing, Sterling already devalued by 20%, UK's largest market largely vanished overnight etc etc etc

 

[Bruce Spanner]

1 minute ago, mattyq said:

Again, fantasy.

Here's the UK GDP growth of the last 4 years

 

2017     1.9%

2018     1.34%

2019     1.46%

2020     -9.76%

 

And you expect me to believe that with a harsh Brexit, an incompetent Tory Government and recovering from a Pandemic we'll grow 4-5% a year? Hahaha, I take back the glue comment, it's full on happy juice and crack cocaine.

Look at the headwinds... trouble in Norn Iron, Scots Indy, brain drain, London rents down the pan, commercial property collapsing, Sterling already devalued by 20%, UK's largest market largely vanished overnight etc etc etc

 

 

Do you smell shill?

[mattyq]

1 minute ago, Bruce Spanner said:

 

Do you smell shill?

Or fantasist/mentalist

[A Red]

Once the vaccines are done, forget bitcoin or dodgy schemes and speak to a Financial Advisor and get them to invest whatever you can afford. Theres going to be a bit of a boom compared to where we are now.

[Bruce Spanner]

10 minutes ago, A Red said:

Once the vaccines are done, forget bitcoin or dodgy schemes and speak to a Financial Advisor and get them to invest whatever you can afford. Theres going to be a bit of a boom compared to where we are now.

 

Of course buy low sell high, that's not the same as saying sunlit uplands are upon us given all the evidence to the fucking contrary.

 

If I had £10 which dropped in value to £8 and I sell at £9 I'm losing a quid on every pound invested, not making a pound.

 

The figures that are posted above are delibrately misleading.

[mattyq]

1 minute ago, A Red said:

Once the vaccines are done, forget bitcoin or dodgy schemes and speak to a Financial Advisor and get them to invest whatever you can afford. Theres going to be a bit of a boom compared to where we are now.

There'll be a bounce, no doubt, but with all the structural damage done to the British economy over the last 4 years the boom will be a lot smaller and over a lot quicker than it otherwise would have been

Would not be surprised if it went small boom to large bust

[A Red]

5 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:

 

Of course buy low sell high, that's not the same as saying sunlit uplands are upon us given all the evidence to the fucking contrary.

I know, thats why I didnt say it. You London types should be able to make a few quid though

[Bruce Spanner]

Just now, A Red said:

I know, thats why I didnt say it. You London types should be able to make a few quid though

 

Sorry, just a touch sensitive to the above bullshit which deliberately tries to mislead.
 

[A Red]

Just now, Bruce Spanner said:

 

Sorry, just a touch sensitive to the above bullshit which deliberately tries to mislead.
 

No problem, I didnt mean it to be a tetchy reply

[sir roger]

I posted an article a week or two back by Polly Toynbee in the Guardian suggesting that the Tories were considering trying to move the election forward to 2022 as their analysis suggested that 2024 would be the absolute nadir for the British economy when all of the chickens are likely to come home to roost.

[Bruce Spanner]

3 minutes ago, Colonel Kurtz said:

Nobody knows. I think there will be a mini boom, some of you disagree. One of us is wrong. That’s it. 

 

Nope, you produced 'facts' which were 'alternative facts' which were demonstrably false according to the very source you put forward.

 

Stop it.

[mattyq]

5 minutes ago, Colonel Kurtz said:

Nobody knows. I think there will be a mini boom, some of you disagree. One of us is wrong. That’s it. 

I think there'll be a bounce later this year and, hopefully, going into next year as well.

It's like arguing against gravity, though. It's stupid and a waste of time as it's just a fact of life.

When an economy experiences a shock as big as the UK has re Covid & Brexit then, as with gravity, certain thing remain facts of life. The first and most important of these things is that you're in for a whole world of fucking pain somewhere down the line. Hopefully, we'll manage to avoid it for 18 months, after that...

[Gnasher]

3 hours ago, Numero said:

I don’t know. Quite far I would guess, but I don’t stat-track post topic intervals so I can’t give you an accurate answer. What I will point out is the fact a society and one person who once spoke about my mum’s rotten pussy and called my family rats aren’t the same thing and I want different things for them. One is general and one is specific. 

 

Yes, it is. That was the intention. I can be an incredibly vindictive, hateful, nasty person - especially when somebody comes at the ones I love. It’s also honest. 
 

 

Numero  that was a long time ago and you've engaged in conversation with me many times since then, and you've managed to be quite civil when it suits you, and now here you are now using your family to score points and justify your behaviour to some stranger on the internet. Just put me on ignore. You're the one who starts all the vindictive nonsense anyway. You've had plenty of opportunities to let it be but still you keep stirring the pot. You've suggested again I've got mental health issues in this post, i suppose youre a psychiatric expert now to add to your other numerous talents, didnt you also pretend you were a gypsy who is so intelligent you gained a place at Oxford university?

 

Not that you care but I can assure you I'm fine both mentally and physically. Its looking like a little self appraisal may be needed regarding yourself. Now put me on ignore like you keep threatening to, stop mentioning me and try to enjoy your weekend. 

 

 

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I’ve answered your questions, which seem utterly ridiculous to me. I didn’t dodge them, I just object to the dishonest nonsense they’re based on. I don’t think you care that a random guy said a nasty thing, I don’t think you care about mental health, I don’t think you care about Gnasher, I don’t think it was anything to do with ego jabs, you just saw an opportunity to have a pop after I negged you earlier. 
 

I’m sure we will both get over it. 

 

[Gnasher]

21 minutes ago, Colonel Kurtz said:

Polly Toynbee is a French chateaux owning ex public school girl faking being a socialist whilst banking a six figure salary paid for by gullible Guardian readers. She’d be shot on the 2nd day of the revolution. 

What's more important on the first?

[Anubis]

59 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

What's more important on the first?

Fair play, that made me laugh.

[Jairzinho]

Guillotining Jeremy Vine. 

[Gnasher]

11 hours ago, A Red said:

Once the vaccines are done, forget bitcoin or dodgy schemes and speak to a Financial Advisor and get them to invest whatever you can afford. Theres going to be a bit of a boom compared to where we are now.

I agree. I've invested six months of social security money on bullet proof vests.

[Brownie]

 

 

 

[Jairzinho]

Who are Refuck?

[Gnasher]

8 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

Who are Refuck?

Refugees uk.  New party, newly settled refugees with English nationalist values.

[Brownie]

Reform UK isn’t it?

 

Basically UKIP/Brexit Party.

 

[Brownie]