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Keir Starmer


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12 minutes ago, Nummer Neunzehn said:

What should Starmer have done for IDS, Uber Tory ahithouse, to be on side and things to be ‘going well’? Think if Starmer didn’t suspend Corbyn IDS would have praised him? 
 

By the way, 4% of Tories trout it was the wrong move. 13% of the UK.

I dont know, the suspension has gave them a truck load of ammo.

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29 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Have a bit of tomorrow's telegraph instead, going well this decisive leadership nonsense..

 

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/10/30/labours-rot-goes-far-deeper-jeremy-corbyn/?WT.mc_id=tmgliveapp_iosshare_AwKsFg3lF30j

 

 

 

Edit: link above not suitable to opened by young children and should be kept away from household pets.

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1 minute ago, Nummer Neunzehn said:

Okay, so let’s say Corbyn wasn’t suspended. What do you think IDS would have said? 

It wouldn't have mattered so much what he said because the issue would not have been so dramatic, would not have had such exposure and would have fizzled out after a day or so. Corbyn knocked Covid off top item on the bbc news . Now it's a tory fill your boots bonanza. 

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5 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

It wouldn't have mattered so much what he said because the issue would not have been so dramatic, would not have had such exposure and would have fizzled out after a day or so. Corbyn knocked Covid off top item on the bbc news . Now it's a tory fill your boots bonanza. 


I’m watching news at ten and it’s not been mentioned yet, only Covid, mixed messages and an allusion to Stramer being right about a ‘circuit breaker’

 

It really isn’t that interesting in the grand scheme of things.

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6 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

It wouldn't have mattered so much what he said because the issue would not have been so dramatic, would not have had such exposure and would have fizzled out after a day or so. Corbyn knocked Covid off top item on the bbc news . Now it's a tory fill your boots bonanza. 

He would have said they were protected and harbouring somebody who unlawfully harassed and discriminated. They all agree Corbyn should be gone they’re just trying to pin it on Starmer. 
 

You’ve got this one badly wrong. 

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3 minutes ago, Nummer Neunzehn said:

He would have said they were protected and harbouring somebody who unlawfully harassed and discriminated. They all agree Corbyn should be gone they’re just trying to pin it on Starmer. 
 

You’ve got this one badly wrong. 

 

5 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:


I’m watching news at ten and it’s not been mentioned yet, only Covid, mixed messages and an allusion to Stramer being right about a ‘circuit breaker’

 

It really isn’t that interesting in the grand scheme of things.

It's not over yet, it would have been, now it's going to drag and drag and I cant see a feasible outcome for Labour, Corbyn or Starmer, all three will end up wounded.

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10 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

 

It's not over yet, it would have been, now it's going to drag and drag and I cant see a feasible outcome for Labour, Corbyn or Starmer, all three will end up wounded.


Depends who you think will be wounded?

 

’We’ are fucked off with the infighting and want an end to it and are doing nothing but tearing ourselves apart with pointless naval gazing and refuting anything which doesn’t confirm our biases, even though the parameters of our core beliefs are negligible.

 

’They’ don’t give a fuck and just need to be given an alternative to the Tories which is worthwhile. 


‘Them’ are pissing themselves at our complete and utter pathetic ability to shoot ourselves in the foot. 
 

Again, tomorrow’s chip wrapping unless ‘we’ keep reminding any fucker with a finger in the air checking on the wind direction.

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To be fair Starmer has Johnson trussed up like a turkey with regard to new lockdown. Verbally walked him into a trap then , doubled down by reiterating labours desire for a fire break during half term.  However the Corbyn issue and the conservatives lying that new evidence received today has changed their minds will negate any progress with the electorate. 

 

Absolutely love Naga but it was cringe this morning hearing her try to be impartial when interviewing the Labour business secretary at pains to point out new evidence had surfaced and Labour hadn't actually specified length of their circuit breaker and how even though the conservatives have fucked up again Labour surely has to support a lock down. Wish the spokesman had said fuck right off this is on Johnson.  Thought she was poor Milliband should have been on. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, clockspeed said:

To be fair Starmer has Johnson trussed up like a turkey with regard to new lockdown. Verbally walked him into a trap then , doubled down by reiterating labours desire for a fire break during half term.  However the Corbyn issue and the conservatives lying that new evidence received today has changed their minds will negate any progress with the electorate. 

 

Absolutely love Naga but it was cringe this morning hearing her try to be impartial when interviewing the Labour business secretary at pains to point out new evidence had surfaced and Labour hadn't actually specified length of their circuit breaker and how even though the conservatives have fucked up again Labour surely has to support a lock down. Wish the spokesman had said fuck right off this is on Johnson.  Thought she was poor Milliband should have been on. 

 

 

Lucy Powell? Absolutely useless, labour got a fistful of them to be fair. Corbyn made a mistake putting Diane Abbot as home sec, I like Abbot as person but she was a car crash. Ainsworth is awful, the shadow chancellor and shadow education sec seem iffy and Rachael Reeves is also a waste of time. Starmer meanwhile presents himself well on tv and in the commons but his shadow cabinet needs upgrades, surprised he jibbed off Barry Gardner.

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1 minute ago, Gnasher said:

Lucy Powell? Absolutely useless, labour got a fistful of them to be fair. Corbyn made a mistake putting Diane Abbot as home sec, I like Abbot as person but she was a car crash. Ainsworth is awful, the shadow chancellor and shadow education sec seem iffy and Rachael Reeves is also a waste of time. Starmer meanwhile presents himself well on tv and in the commons but his shadow cabinet needs upgrades, surprised he jibbed off Barry Gardner.

Aye whatever the thoughts on Starmer would say his front bench weak.RLB would have been useful distinct lack of talent in Labour Ranks. 

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6 minutes ago, clockspeed said:

Aye didn't think about that, his choices perhaps limited. 

Limited in a number of ways. 1) fewer seats, less choice. 2) The pool of serious political players in the Labour Party is pretty low. In all of British politics to be honest. 3) a long history of not getting the best talent to represent them in elections. 
 

 

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5 minutes ago, Nummer Neunzehn said:

Fucking hell, mate. If Barry Gardiner is the best ‘media operator’ in the party, the party is in worse shape that it looks. I mean... fucking hell. 

Why? Gardiner is far better operator than Lucy Powell, Rachael Reeves, Annalise Dodds or Jonathan Ainsworth but that's not saying a lot.

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1 minute ago, Gnasher said:

Why?

If he’s the best media operator Labour has, it’s worse than I thought because he’s not a very good media operator. I mean, you just need to look at how he operates in the media to see that. He might well be the best Labour have got, but if he is it’s a travesty and they need new people desperately. If this is the best, it can’t take much more to improve. 
 

 

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