Chels.... Who's arsed?

[RobbieOR]

Happened with Houllier, Benitez, Hodgson and Kenny. That's what happens on all footy forums these days when there's a sufficient number of fans that have had enough.

 

You may as well complain about the weather, I find it annoying reading the apologists but they come with the territory too. Who would have thought a forum would have people with different opinions, weird. 

 

'The Apologists'. 

[RobbieOR]

Woah there nelly. No doubt people who're into European football had heard of him, just like some of the names that get thrown around on here day in and day out, but he wasn't in the top echelon of big name strikers by any means. If a billionaire had bankrolled you you'd expect to have seen names like Shevchenko rock up from day one. 

 

He tore us apart about three months before they signed him. Most people knew who he was.

[Guest davelfc]

I'm surprised about this too.  I don't feel as strongly about it as you do but saying, "Well he obviously didn't mean it" - is that any better?  The idea that we should sub Gerrard so that he can get a round of applause at Stamford Bridge is crass in the extreme whether it's true or not.  It's deluded behaviour and Stevie clearly thinks so himself.  

 

The apologists are so geared up to defend the manager that they've lost sight of the real issue here. 

[El Rojo]

That's fair enough. I'm just a little annoyed that every single thing he does or says is taken apart on here now. It's ridiculous. 

Par for the course. It's an unforgiving job and people are disappointed at our season. He got plenty of plaudits last year (though it seems conventional wisdom now that everything about that season was down to Suarez - harsh on Sturridge, Gerrard, Sterling, Skrtel, Henderson and indeed Rodgers for me.)

 

I think the post-match comments thing from yesterday is further evidence of him putting his foot in his mouth, as he does from time to time.

 

I reckon he tried to tie a tactical substitution to the Gerrard love-in, which was a really stupid idea.

[Jennings]

Its a bit shit - but not a sackable offence.

[JermainePennant]

I'm surprised about this too. I don't feel as strongly about it as you do but saying, "Well he obviously didn't mean it" - is that any better? The idea that we should sub Gerrard so that he can get a round of applause at Stamford Bridge is crass in the extreme whether it's true or not. It's deluded behaviour and Stevie clearly thinks so himself.

I'm surprised people think a manager would take a player off with over ten minutes to go for an applause, it's also surprising that they would believe Rodgers knew before the event that the Chelsea fans would applaud.

 

It's a clear case of him showing respect to Gerrard and sugercoating the reason for him coming off, seeing as he's done it every other time he's subbed Gerrard it should have been easy for most fans to work out what he was doing.

[Guest davelfc]

I'm surprised people think a manager would take a player off with over ten minutes to go for an applause, it also surprising that they would believe Rodgers knew before the event that the Chelsea fans would applaud.

 

It's a clear case of him showing respect to Gerrard and sugercoating the reason for him coming off, seeing as he's done it every other time he's subbed Gerrard it should have been easy for most fans to work out what he was doing.

 

Well thank fuck for that, I was worried for a bit there. You've put my mind at ease and we can all drop it now. 

[Pidge]

Amazing the apologists I've read over this. Happy I guess to capitulate so easily when there was a chance we could have fought on to get that holy grail of fourth place.

 

Seems the transformation is almost complete, well played FSG, well played.

 

Transformation from what? H&G? the Parry years? Fuck off with that nonsense.

[Boss]

Ok I've calmed down a bit now. Ref Rodgers comments post match. 

 

As someone that's had enough time in front of cameras and dealing with the media. Also bearing in mind the shit storm about the guard of honour and knowing the feelings between our clubs, it was an idiotic thing to say.

 

If he really mean't it then he needs to go, right now, do one, fuck off. That kind of defeatist attitude when we should have been fighting for a goal until the final whistle instead of giving players a jolly good clap from those twats, it's not Liverpool. 

 

If he didn't mean it, then surely he was jumping in on the moment so he looked good. Who for? Has shitcoat already got his little pack of minions surrounding him like bacon face had? He deals with hundreds of interviews and he knows what he's saying. I might struggle to come up with a reason for taking Gerrard off, I sure as hell wouldn't have rushed to use that brainless comment. 

 

A Gerrard who had scored, was a leading scorer and scored the winner the other week. We should have been throwing the kitchen sink at them, not throwing in the towel and subjecting Gerrard to that. How the fuck did Rodgers know Gerrard would get a few seconds of applause after the dogs abuse he had received from them all game? He didn't, he's a fucking bluffer. 

 

He's an amateur manager that gets caught up in the big moments, the very thing he accused his young players of. Get rid, god knows what we'll end up with though and that's the only reason many hypocrites want him to stay. 

 

Rodgers probably took Gerrard off to shore up the defence and make sure we didn't concede a late goal. A point away at the champions isn't a bad result at the end of the day. He obviously meant for him to get a round of applause from our fans, not Chelsea fans. But he was just being diplomatic in his response.

 

Similarly when the interviewer said "has Mario played his last game?" he didn't slate Mario when he obviously thinks he's a complete buffoon. If he did explain from a tactical point of view why he took Gerrard off he'd probably get slaughtered for that because he talks too much and is too pleased with a point away when we really needed 3 points to keep top 4 alive. In this case it's damned if you do, damned if you don't.

[The Golden Eel]

I'm surprised people think a manager would take a player off with over ten minutes to go for an applause, it also surprising that they would believe Rodgers knew before the event that the Chelsea fans would applaud.

 

It's a clear case of him showing respect to Gerrard and sugercoating the reason for him coming off, seeing as he's done it every other time he's subbed Gerrard it should have been easy for most fans to work out what he was doing.

 

Even if he was spoofing about the reasons, it doesn't make it much better because it shows that he's out of touch with how a lot of fans and the player himself will react to the very notion of being subbed for a round of applause at Stamford Bridge.  Of course, it's up to the individual to have their own opinion on that (and if you have no problem with it, then that's your prerogative) but it's clear what Stevie's opinion on it is, for example.  

[Guest davelfc]

Rodgers probably took Gerrard off to shore up the defence and make sure we didn't concede a late goal. A point away at the champions isn't a bad result at the end of the day. He obviously meant for him to get a round of applause from our fans, not Chelsea fans. But he was just being diplomatic in his response.

 

 

 

In a shit or bust game? You do realise we needed three points yesterday don't you? I couldn't give a fuck what Rodgers says and I avoid all of his comments as much as possible. But I do give a fuck what he does and the reasons behind it.

 

You joking with that comment or is it serious? 

[Guest davelfc]

Transformation from what? H&G? the Parry years? Fuck off with that nonsense.

 

Mid table team with a mid table manager. Selling off our best players and unable to keep the rising stars.

 

Whoop de fuckin doooo, we're much better now eh. Oh we've fucking sold everything, commercialised the fuck out of the club. Not saying it's a bad thing but it's the only thing they've done well.

 

So fuck off with your nonsense. 

[Dr. J]

 

Rodgers probably took Gerrard off to shore up the defence and make sure we didn't concede a late goal. A point away at the champions isn't a bad result at the end of the day.

 

You do know we had to win the game for any hope of CL football, right?

[Dr Nowt]

Apparently Rafa just called Rodgers a mong on Italian media and said "When I told him to get his medals out I didn't mean those fucking nashers."

 

It's going right off.

[Nightcat]

The YESman support group is out of the shadows today.

 

Seriously are you not embarrassed with your pathetic attempts to paint a pleasant picture of this sad excuse for a Liverpool manager?

 

A man who can't look straight into the eyes of Mourinho and who pathetically offers all kinds of support to FSG's fucked up strategy.

 

The reason we finished second last season was Suarez, who was signed by the football genius Kenny Dalglish.

[Pureblood]

Amazing the apologists I've read over this. Happy I guess to capitulate so easily when there was a chance we could have fought on to get that holy grail of fourth place.

 

Seems the transformation is almost complete, well played FSG, well played.

Yeah, we're all really happy with how things are going. Spot on.

[Boss]

In a shit or bust game? You do realise we needed three points yesterday don't you? I couldn't give a fuck what Rodgers says and I avoid all of his comments as much as possible. But I do give a fuck what he does and the reasons behind it.

 

You joking with that comment or is it serious? 

 

I'm serious, even if we won we'd be 6 points behind Man U if you count goal difference. Top 4 is gone and it was gone before our game yesterday. 

[bouncebrigade]

In a shit or bust game? You do realise we needed three points yesterday don't you? I couldn't give a fuck what Rodgers says and I avoid all of his comments as much as possible. But I do give a fuck what he does and the reasons behind it.

 

You joking with that comment or is it serious? 

 

Mid table team with a mid table manager. Selling off our best players and unable to keep the rising stars.

 

Whoop de fuckin doooo, we're much better now eh. Oh we've fucking sold everything, commercialised the fuck out of the club. Not saying it's a bad thing but it's the only thing they've done well.

 

So fuck off with your nonsense. 

 

We have a fan of the word fuck.  Superb stuff.

 

And by superb, I mean tedious bullshit.

[The Golden Eel]

I'm serious, even if we won we'd be 6 points behind Man U if you count goal difference. Top 4 is gone and it was gone before our game yesterday. 

 

We'd have been 4 behind them, 5 if you say the GD is worth an extra point. 

[Guest davelfc]

I'm serious, even if we won we'd be 6 points behind Man U if you count goal difference. Top 4 is gone and it was gone before our game yesterday. 

 

With a win we would be 4 points behind them. They have to play Arsenal and Hull. Remember Hull, beat us the other week and needs points desperately to stay up.

 

You do support us right? Or are you actually Brendan as that might explain a few things.

[Dr. J]

 

I'm serious, even if we won we'd be 6 points behind Man U if you count goal difference. Top 4 is gone and it was gone before our game yesterday.

 

A clear case of Rodgers Delusion Syndrome (RDS), albeit a mild case. In more advanced cases we're playing Barca away in the CL semi on Tuesday.

[Pureblood]

You do support us right? Or are you actually Brendan as that might explain a few things.

This is so lame. Are you suggesting Brendan didn't want three points? You're making an arse of yourself.

[Boss]

With a win we would be 4 points behind them. They have to play Arsenal and Hull. Remember Hull, beat us the other week and needs points desperately to stay up.

 

You do support us right?

 

Okay 5 points then, 5 out of a remaining 6 points. Do you expect us with our attack to win both games? Also do you expect them not to pick up a single point in either game? highly improbable. Anyway it's a moot point because we drew and probably would of still drew with Gerrard on the pitch for the last 10 minutes.

[Guest davelfc]

This is so lame. Are you suggesting Brendan didn't want three points? You're making an arse of yourself.

 

No I'm joking that maybe Rodgers had as little of a clue as that poster and already thought the CL chance had gone. 

 

It would explain the end of season feel to yesterday's game, even some of our fans not realising that we still stood a chance of CL. But hey, given the chance to let the chavs clap for two seconds who wouldn't have thrown that away.

[Guest davelfc]

Okay 5 points then, 5 out of a remaining 6 points. Do you expect us with our attack to win both games? Also do you expect them not to pick up a single point in either game? highly improbable.

 

Highly improbable is not almost completely impossible. Which it is now. 

 

The difference would have been 4 points, with them having a vastly superior goal difference, I

 

t's called putting pressure on other teams and fighting until the end. Something I understand might be forgotten with this trainee (11 years as a manager still count as trainee?) although throwing in the towel seems to be the default attitude now.