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Does Rodgers deserve another season.

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stringvest Grand Master

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Full credit to those fans but I don't see them as above others, they are in the privileged position of having things like season tickets and if every fan who had a season ticket gave it up there would be fans ready to replace them.

 

OK.  Each to their own.  I just find it mildly irksome that you are telling fans how to behave towards Rodgers when you can't be bothered yourself.  Perhaps you should ask around and you may find a volunteer to mouth your support by proxy.  

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Full credit to those fans but I don't see them as above others, they are in the privileged position of having things like season tickets and if every fan who had a season ticket gave it up there would be fans ready to replace them.

 

Season ticket holders are NOT in a privileged position. It's not some favour from the club.

If anything, it's the other way around (and even that's tenuous).

 

Season ticket holders (as with all paying fans) pay handsomely and well above most other fans in Europe, and half of the damn 'demand' for season tickets is a result of owners not building a bigger stadium.

You're right that there'll be someone ready to take up a season ticket, but it won't last forever. You can't lose 2 or 3 lots of season ticket holders.

 

It's not about being 'above' other fans, it's more about why paying fans might feel more aggrieved, after all, they're ultimately being expected to pay for an unknown product. They don't know who the club will buy or who the manager will be, before they're expected to pay for a season ticket.

 

I'm not 100% sure the matchgoing fan sees more of the game.... it's just different. Yes they'll see stuff not on TV, but in the same way, a TV viewer can see things the matchgoer doesn't. Even two fans in the same stadium can see very different things based on their position in the ground, but that's another discussion.

 

The paying fan is likely to feel more hurt having shelled out time and money to support the team, and then have their noses rubbed in it with 'sign up for another great season' type marketing.

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People won't pay extortionate prices to watch a club with no ambition. And fair weather fans will jump to other teams or the more loyal will walk away as I have nearly done because you get sick of investing emotionally and financially to something where despite all the rhetoric, you realise that the club has no other aim but to be where it is.

 

As I said yesterday if this club really wants to be a big club, then it needs to start acting like it. Utd punted Moyes when it got to this stage. Why do we think that it will be any different with rodgers next year? What I've seen the past few months are players who have given up on the manager. Teams don't get beat 6-1 at Stoke unless they have given up.

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I think rather than one-upmanship it might just be that a lot of very good people who follow the club all over the place at great expense, in all weathers and whether results on the pitch are good, bad or indifferent, don't need to be preached to about being proper fans by someone who not only doesn't do the same, but says he'll stop supporting the club if Brendan gets sacked.

 

I think that might just seem fucking ridiculous and be worthy of rebuke.

 

I'm not one of such fans, by the way, in case anyone thinks that's grandstanding.

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When Brendan was appointed, I understood the rationale behind appointing a young, enthusiastic manager, but described it as an “odds against” appointment. It could have worked, but it required everything to go his way. And when a gambler wins against the odds, the wise one cashes in his chips, he doesn’t roll again. But FSG were seduced, like the gambler offered a glass of scotch by a pretty hostess at the casino after a lucky win, with predictable results.

 

His post Stoke defeat comments were lamentable. “ We have kept fighting right to the very end” No we haven’t Brendan. From Villa onwards we have given up.

 

“There are a number of key elements of the performance today that didn’t surprise me if I am being honest” The manager’s job is to avoid 6-1 defeats at Stoke, or anywhere, as every other LFC manager has managed for half a century.

 

“Our job is to go and fix that and make sure we come back with the motivation greater than ever to push on next season” We all rather expect an LFC manager able to do a little better than improve upon 6-1 defeats.

 

“ I still have a lot more to give” Abject Euro performances? £110m squandered in the transfer market? Being doubled by Crystal Palace? Frankly we don’t want any more of that Brendan.

 

I do have some sympathy for him. If FSG had wanted a manager with experience at the top end of the transfer market, a euro track record ( managing in wales for a season seemed to impress FSG though) and experience of team building they could have looked elsewhere, but they decided these qualities were unimportant for an LFC manager.

 

Now we are faced with a manager who was never good enough, a CEO who barely impressed at Huddersfield and a de facto DOF in Mike Gordon who would be excellent if LFC was a baseball team. The Project? Sterling, Gerrard, Agger, Carra , Reina and Suarez have all said “No thanks”

 

At least Pascoe is still on board.

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I think rather than one-upmanship it might just be that a lot of very good people who follow the club all over the place at great expense, in all weathers and whether results on the pitch are good, bad or indifferent, don't need to be preached to about being proper fans by someone who not only doesn't do the same, but says he'll stop supporting the club if Brendan gets sacked.

 

Does anyone on this site fall into this category?

 

Whelan did but he's long gone. Anyone else regularly go to games home and away?

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OK. Each to their own. I just find it mildly irksome that you are telling fans how to behave towards Rodgers when you can't be bothered yourself. Perhaps you should ask around and you may find a volunteer to mouth your support by proxy.

The club would certainly miss fans who don't go to every game, if LFC fans were just from Liverpool it wouldn't be the club it is now and getting Europa league would be a big achievement.

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I think rather than one-upmanship it might just be that a lot of very good people who follow the club all over the place at great expense, in all weathers and whether results on the pitch are good, bad or indifferent, don't need to be preached to about being proper fans by someone who not only doesn't do the same, but says he'll stop supporting the club if Brendan gets sacked.

 

I think that might just seem fucking ridiculous and be worthy of rebuke.

 

I'm not one of such fans, by the way, in case anyone thinks that's grandstanding.

 

Exactly.  I don't go to that many games now, but those that do will always get respect for doing so, and don't need to be told how to behave by armchair followers.

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Exactly. I don't go to that many games now, but those that do will always get respect for doing so, and don't need to be told how to behave by armchair followers.

As I said full credit to those fans and I didn't tell them how to behave, I gave my opinion that going in to the start of next season if fans are still on BRs back and going mad after any loss or bad result that is not going to help the team.

 

I don't remember saying I would stop supporting LFC if BR was sacked but my interest in the club would have seriously gone down, giving up the football Rodgers can get us playing for another rebuild job would be a disaster, as soon as the new guy had a bad run he'd be off and we'd carry on doing the same thing for years.

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the point I was rather clumsily trying to make was that having a worldwide fanbase is not a pre-requisite for success.  It's the other way around, natch.   

 

No-one said it was.

 

That bottomless pits of cash will get you somewhere is hardly a point that needs to be made.

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As I said full credit to those fans and I didn't tell them how to behave, I gave my opinion that going in to the start of next season if fans are still on BRs back and going mad after any loss or bad result that is not going to help the team.

 

I don't remember saying I would stop supporting LFC if BR was sacked but my interest in the club would have seriously gone down, giving up the football Rodgers can get us playing for another rebuild job would be a disaster, as soon as the new guy had a bad run he'd be off and we'd carry on doing the same thing for years.

 

You'll be sorely missed.  

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