Crime and Punishment

[Bjornebye]

They’ve released the identity of the two Brianna Ghey killers. Just kids ffs. Sick little bastards 

[Arniepie]

33 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

They’ve released the identity of the two Brianna Ghey killers. Just kids ffs. Sick little bastards 

hope they get terrered every day for the next 2 decades

[Redder Lurtz]

We'll be reading about attacks on their family members before long. Whether personal assaults, vandalism to their property or social media bullying by right wing media readers and fucktards. They'd have been named in under 2 years anyway when they reach 18. Pointless exercise, naming them today.

 

Reckon they'll get 30 years each given the premeditation and the fact they had a list of targets. They're children and it's fucking sad but the little shits deserve every minute of 30 years. I just hope Brianna's parents can eventually find some peace. 

[Section_31]

They look exactly how I'd imagined.

 

Mate of mine has been covering this since word go and I think the lad is elective mute.

 

The man's tongue didn't come through customs.

[Captain Willard]

17 hours ago, Nelly-Szoboszlai said:

The new CCTV image they’ve released of the corrosive attack suspect is fairly fucked up. The right side of his face is a right mess. 
 

That’s the risk you take when you’re a bad alkali chucking biff. 

Pro beaner without a doubt. 

[Geoff Woade]

11 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

They look exactly how I'd imagined.

 

Mate of mine has been covering this since word go and I think the lad is elective mute.

 

The man's tongue didn't come through customs.

The lad looks 26 not 16. Also looks like he works at CEX, surviving on energy drinks and rustlers burgers. 
Pair of ghouls.

[Pete]

1 hour ago, Geoff Woade said:

The lad looks 26 not 16. Also looks like he works at CEX, surviving on energy drinks and rustlers burgers. 
Pair of ghouls.

Closest he's gotten to having CEX then.

[Anubis]

By the sounds of the post-trial expert reports on Scarlett Jenkinson, she was on her way to becoming a budding Aileen Wuornos. Still expressing a desire to kill and unable to feel empathy. 

[Anubis]

22 year minimum for her and 20 for him less time served. That’s minimum and subject to assessment and Parole Board hearings.

[Bjornebye]

It would have been bad enough if just one kid was that sick and twisted but for two to be able to commit such a horror is genuinely terrifying. 3 families completely destroyed.

 

Hopefully her parents can get some sort of solace now.  

[Redder Lurtz]

That's a lot lower than I thought. Given their ages, rehabilitation is likely to be achieved far more successfully than in older adults. I'd fully expect them to be at least on day release once their minimum terms hace been served. They'll still have full lives to lead and likely given life anonymity. That ain't going to go down well with Brianna's family. It wouldn't with me either if I was in their position. 

[Anubis]

The purpose of the criminal justice system is not just to punish but to rehabilitate if possible.

[Elite]

Pair of little twats.

 

Ruined many lives including their own, all for what? A sense of power from picking on somebody different and an easy target.

 

Karma will pay those pairs of cunts tenfold in prison.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

On 22/12/2023 at 23:06, Nelly-Szoboszlai said:

The victims mum has already pleaded for members of the public to not harass the killer’s families. Today, the trial judge has echoed that sentiment, stating that anybody who threatens or targets the killer’s families is likely to be prosecuted. 
 

It seems that there’s a degree of foresight that the families of the killers may be targeted. With that in mind, it seems a bit irresponsible to name the killers. Particularly when they could just name them in a couple of years, when the pitchfork mob will have moved on to something else. 
 

For the record, my concern is for the safety of the innocent families which, for me, outweighs the need for random people on the internet to know the killers identities. I couldn’t care less if the murderous horrors had their throats slit tomorrow. But, all measures should be put in place to protect the families. 
 

Particularly if the minimum term turns out to be shorter than some people are expecting. Which I think it could be. Their age reduces the minimum term starting point to 12 years. Premeditation and use of a knife will be aggravating factors. But, will the judge conclude that it was a hate crime, particularly when it appears they just wanted to kill somebody, the easiest kill and weren’t particularly arsed about who they killed or why they killed them? If there’s no hate crime link made by the judge, I’d guess that the minimum term could be around 18-22 years. 

Told y’all. 
 

What do I win? We should have a TLW minimumtermpool competition. 

[Elite]

1 minute ago, Anubis said:

The purpose of the criminal justice system is not just to punish but to rehabilitate if possible.

In an idealistic world yes but there's simply no resources to rehabilitate. Prison is a punishment and a deterrent. 

[Champ]

I was waiting for views on the reaction to Valdo Calocane’s sentencing https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-68142355

 

 

[Anubis]

5 minutes ago, Elite said:

In an idealistic world yes but there's simply no resources to rehabilitate. Prison is a punishment and a deterrent. 

The loss of liberty is the punishment. However YOIs and Prisons have rehabilitation programs. The Youth Offending Team and Probation Service will lay out what they are. 
 

The Judge is clearly concerned about the girl. She specifically made a point of telling her that the report would be held on her file for the Parole Board - 22 years away!

[Elite]

1 minute ago, Anubis said:

The loss of liberty is the punishment. However YOIs and Prisons have rehabilitation programs. The Youth Offending Team and Probation Service will lay out what they are. 
 

The Judge is clearly concerned about the girl. She specifically made a point of telling her that the report would be held on her file for the Parole Board - 22 years away!

She's obviously a psycho.

[Arniepie]

18 minutes ago, Anubis said:

The purpose of the criminal justice system is not just to punish but to rehabilitate if possible.

can you rehabilitaite twisted evil cunts like that?

[Anubis]

2 minutes ago, Elite said:

She's obviously a psycho.

Definitely sounds like she’d have killed again had she gotten away with this. Sounds  awful, but in some ways catching her when she’s killed  in such an unsophisticated fashion has probably spared others.

[Anubis]

1 minute ago, Arniepie said:

can you rehabilitaite twisted evil cunts like that?

We’ll find out in due course.

[Champ]

18 minutes ago, Elite said:

She's obviously a psycho.

As we say in work, ‘something’s happened to her’

[Section_31]

Don't want to sound heartless, but the media coverage needs Denise Bulger's input like I need a third nut. 

[littletedwest]

Apparently she made another kill list whilst in custody.

Just remember shit it'll make life easier 

[Section_31]

All serial killers in history have been psychopaths, there's never been a famous one who hasn't - psychopathy isn't a mental illness or the product of upbringing, their brains a just different. Some of them excel in high stakes industries like banking where they name of the game is to step over other people, others in the SAS where they don't lose any sleep over killing. Given the opportunity though they go down this route. I imagine explaining to one that killing is wrong is like trying to explain it to the Terminator. To his dying day, Ian Brady was described as glib and largely of the belief that he'd done nothing wrong. I'm not sure rehabilitation works with most - they're human XL Bullies and must be treated accordingly.