Emergency Ward 10 - The Injuries Thread

[stringvest]

4 minutes ago, El Rojo said:

Sounds rough. Get well soon!

Cheers Rojo - still rough after the op on Friday

[El Rojo]

2 minutes ago, stringvest said:

Cheers Rojo - still rough after the op on Friday

Great you’re on the mend. Even better if you missed the Bournemouth ‘performance’. 

[stringvest]

Aye - I would have gone as well.  I only found out the result yesterday- I read the thread on here 

[sir roger]

4 hours ago, an tha said:

Bajectic is fucked.

 

This fucking season - what do we do in training.

 

"Stefan out for a while"

 

To be honest he has had a few nasty scrapes in the last few games and I am surprised our medical staff and Jurgen let him play with no protection on his calf, ankle and shin areas.

[CapeRed]

My lad sent me this wtf is going on at our club

[an tha]

Jordan Henderson and Stefan Bajcetic are ruled out of Liverpool's Champions League clash with Real Madrid on Wednesday night.

 

Henderson did not travel with the Reds squad to Spain on Tuesday afternoon, for the second leg of their last-16 tie, due to illness.

 

Bajcetic, meanwhile, will not be available to feature at the Santiago Bernabeu as he recovers from an injury, Jürgen Klopp confirmed at his pre-match press conference.

 

“With Stefan, it is a stress response, which is absolutely bad,” said the manager.

 

“So, he doesn’t feel a lot, it’s only a little bit but he is now out for I don’t know exactly how long. We have just to let it settle then and we will see when he can come back.”

Klopp added: “[It’s] high up, around the adductor.

[Barrington Womble]

12 hours ago, an tha said:

Jordan Henderson and Stefan Bajcetic are ruled out of Liverpool's Champions League clash with Real Madrid on Wednesday night.

 

Henderson did not travel with the Reds squad to Spain on Tuesday afternoon, for the second leg of their last-16 tie, due to illness.

 

Bajcetic, meanwhile, will not be available to feature at the Santiago Bernabeu as he recovers from an injury, Jürgen Klopp confirmed at his pre-match press conference.

 

“With Stefan, it is a stress response, which is absolutely bad,” said the manager.

 

“So, he doesn’t feel a lot, it’s only a little bit but he is now out for I don’t know exactly how long. We have just to let it settle then and we will see when he can come back.”

Klopp added: “[It’s] high up, around the adductor.

Stress response. So in other words we've been over working him. You've got to take it easy with kids. It's why you can't build a side around them. It's not the 70s any more when they were coming in and playing against fellas who played a bit of 5-a-side in training and then fucked off on the ale in the afternoon. This is a world of real athletes and the premier League is the biggest, strongest, fastest on earth..kids have to be nurtured. 

 

Our decisions in recent seasons to sit on players like chamberlain and keita because we wouldn't let them leave cheap is not just fucking our present, it has every chance of fucking our future. 

[johnsusername]

7 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

Stress response. So in other words we've been over working him. You've got to take it easy with kids. It's why you can't build a side around them. It's not the 70s any more when they were coming in and playing against fellas who played a bit of 5-a-side in training and then fucked off on the ale in the afternoon. This is a world of real athletes and the premier League is the biggest, strongest, fastest on earth..kids have to be nurtured. 

 

Our decisions in recent seasons to sit on players like chamberlain and keita because we wouldn't let them leave cheap is not just fucking our present, it has every chance of fucking our future. 

 

Yep. And against Bournemouth we looked anything but athletic, especially in midfield. 

 

The squad management has been a shambles and has caused a write off of a whole season.  

[El Rojo]

37 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

Stress response. So in other words we've been over working him. You've got to take it easy with kids. It's why you can't build a side around them. It's not the 70s any more when they were coming in and playing against fellas who played a bit of 5-a-side in training and then fucked off on the ale in the afternoon. This is a world of real athletes and the premier League is the biggest, strongest, fastest on earth..kids have to be nurtured. 

 

Our decisions in recent seasons to sit on players like chamberlain and keita because we wouldn't let them leave cheap is not just fucking our present, it has every chance of fucking our future. 

 

It's almost like we haven't learnt a lesson since we gradually reduced Michael Owen's blistering pace by overplaying him into muscle after muscle injury. 

[Barrington Womble]

1 hour ago, johnsusername said:

 

Yep. And against Bournemouth we looked anything but athletic, especially in midfield. 

 

The squad management has been a shambles and has caused a write off of a whole season.  

But the thing is you know these tight cunts in Boston will be thinking about how they can let milner, keita and chamberlain go and just bring one in because we have Harvey and bajcetic. There's a reason they don't even have to count in your squad, because their appearance is no more than a bonus. Jones has barely kicked a ball all season due to growing type issues and the lad is fucking 22. And here we are by running bajcetic week in week out for a couple of months, pretty much because of the clubs failure to resolve issues with the existing staff, that we're putting the lads future and his future with us at risk. It's fucking not on.

 

On the back of that shit on Saturday, I'm even more pissed off this boy has now got a big injury. We have to stop looking for kids to save us from our unwillingness to refresh the squad. 

[an tha]

The lack of reliability of some and lack of trust in others has led us to overwork a kid, it also means we overplay others too and it simply has to be fixed now - as Barrington says it is not on.

 

 

 

 

[Barrington Womble]

Having to watch chamberlain trying to save the day just brings home how fucking desperate things are. Working out what the fuck we're doing wrong with injuries is as big a problem to solve this summer as getting midfielders in. 

[Scott_M]

[NoelM]

Is it 3 young players who have missed significant time with "stress injuries"? Kaide Gordon, Curtis Jones and now Bajetic.

[BeefStroganoff]

The medical department. Another thing that needs a rebuild.

[johnsusername]

Nice one. We've run him into the ground and broken him.

 

Still, we didn't need a midfielder. We knew best. 

[Tenfolder]

10 minutes ago, BeefStroganoff said:

The medical department. Another thing that needs a rebuild.

 

Rebuild is a polite way of putting it, it needs gutting and starting from fresh because whatever is going on there is an absolute shambles at this point.

 

Also who'd have thought working a youngster super hard like we have has ended up like this as the other wasters in the team either can't do it on the pitch or are hanging around the treatment room like a bad smell, genuinely feel bad for the lad

[El Rojo]

1 hour ago, Scott_M said:

 

Really negligent stuff from the club, and plenty of us made the point on here in recent weeks that he was being completely overplayed. 

 

It doesn't even make sense - how many times was Nunez frustratingly benched or left out of a squad because of a minor twinge, yet we play this kid all the time?

 

For a few seasons, we seemed to be an unbelievably shrewdly run operation. We're a complete mess this year in so many ways. 

[sir roger]

Can't just point the finger at the medics over Bacjetic, Jurgen has forgotten more about football than I have ever known, but even I was surprised how many minutes Stef was getting.

[Torvald Utne]

Played the equivalent minutes of 16 games, ran into the ground? My arse.

[Manny]

21 minutes ago, Torvald Utne said:

Played the equivalent minutes of 16 games, ran into the ground? My arse.

Yeah. I don't think an 18 year old getting injured for 6-8 weeks is particularly a "rip the medical department up" type of issue - the "Diaz doesn't need an operation he just needs 3 months of rehab, oh wait fuck 3 months is up and yeah he does lol" is a much more glaring indictment of them in itself.

 

It does highlight the negligence of heading into the season effectively with 2 old men, Fabinho, and a load of kids though, because kids get injured more. Bajcetic has an excuse and it's worth persevering with his injuries due to his young age, but Ox and Keita have been crocks for most of their careers.

[No2]

8 minutes ago, Manny said:

Yeah. I don't think an 18 year old getting injured for 6-8 weeks is particularly a "rip the medical department up" type of issue - the "Diaz doesn't need an operation he just needs 3 months of rehab, oh wait fuck 3 months is up and yeah he does lol" is a much more glaring indictment of them in itself.

 

It does highlight the negligence of heading into the season effectively with 2 old men, Fabinho, and a load of kids though, because kids get injured more. Bajcetic has an excuse and it's worth persevering with his injuries due to his young age, but Ox and Keita have been crocks for most of their careers.

The gas thing is Ox and Naby have probably been available more this season than any other season.

[Manny]

3 minutes ago, No7 said:

The gas thing is Ox and Naby have probably been available more this season than any other season.

Yeah it's weird isn't it. Just a complete limbo and waste of everyone's time: they're taking up a place in the squad but never used, we know they're going, Jurgen knows they're going, they know they're going. We're just counting down the minutes til they go, the salaries are stopped and we get the squad numbers back.

 

Ox's appearance last night felt more like 10 mins at the end of the last home game of the season to wave goodbye to the fans than an attempt to change the game. Frustrating as fuck.

[sir roger]

3 minutes ago, Manny said:

Ox's appearance last night felt more like 10 mins at the end of the last home game of the season to wave goodbye to the fans than an attempt to change the game. Frustrating as fuck.

The fact that Ox seemed more 'up for it' than some of the starters was a tad worrying.

[El Rojo]

44 minutes ago, Torvald Utne said:

Played the equivalent minutes of 16 games, ran into the ground? My arse.

 

The problem is that he's 18 and the bulk of that game time was over a six week period since the end of January. 

 

Same thing with Thiago - he clearly can't handle any more than a game a week, if even that, yet we used him all the time until, surprise surprise, he broke down again. 

 

Yet we kept onto Keita and Ox (who I actually feel sorry for given that bad injury) over several windows rather than planning appropriately.