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49 minutes ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

They really need educating on the whole wall pushing narrative they've created. If the only thing you have is tragedy manipulated by the context of making yourself feel hard done by in nearly 4 fucking decades! then its clear you've offered fuck all in all that time. Guess what! we were banned too and we were the ones with the shame at the centre of it all, how come we werent destroyed by it like they supposedly were. Fuck all to do with their own bad decisions. The fucking balls to say we are "always the victims". Their inferiority complex consumed them, now all they are is negativity and that shit attracts more of the same. I hope they go down, I hope they go down so they spend a season in a league that makes them feel good again, so they win games and remember what football is because I know far too many blues who I love, who in every other sense I want to see happy but fucking football of all things makes them nasty. Murderers I was fucking 4 years old go fuck yourself.

They don't want education. There is clear wilful neglect of the truth as they prefer to believe in the narrative of their own parallel universe. Wilful neglect of truth and projection are their forte. Prime among these are the 'always the victim' shouts about us. Their lack of self awareness means they revel in feeling sorry for themselves but love always having someone else to blame for their own endless failures.

 

It's the very essence of sticking their fingers in their ears and shouting 'La, la, la, I can't hear you'

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Scott_M said:

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And on GOT, davek's response is that it is all due to "that Kopite rat" Rotheram, not EFC notifying the council the £30m loan wasn't required.

 

There may now be yet another financial short-fall - the blueshite are between a dock and a hard place - and I worry for them, I really do.

 

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They may have found an alternative loan in the private sector, but to what end? By taking a loan privately and not off the LCRCA, are they in fact abandoning any commitment to regeneration of the wider Liverpool/Bootle area that the LCRCA mentioned? Yes, they are still taking the £15m grant, but isn't that for the area around BMD as opposed to the wider area?

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Then, of course, there is the Mail article suggesting that rising costs have forced changes to the stadium design, the abandonment of the multi-storey car park, a substitution of cheaper building materials, and pre-fabrication of various parts of the stadium.

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31 minutes ago, Anubis said:

They may have found an alternative loan in the private sector, but to what end? By taking a loan privately and not off the LCRCA, are they in fact abandoning any commitment to regeneration of the wider Liverpool/Bootle area that the LCRCA mentioned? Yes, they are still taking the £15m grant, but isn't that for the area around BMD as opposed to the wider area?

This is why they should never have been granted planning permission without proof that the funding for the whole project was in place. They've already started damaging the historical assets and have delivered a fucking beach. And with every passing day, there is nothing to suggest that playa de plantas de mierda isn't about as good as it's going to get. 

 

It's not just about project like this in fact. When we have owners of football clubs who are funding the club as a play thing, I'd not hold them to ffp or in the case of this build the normal rules of regeneration. I'd make them put all the money up front. You want to build on our grade 2 listed dock - stick 600m in the hands of trustees and let them pay the bills. You want to have a wage bill that is more than your turnover - no need to fake sponsorship deals, just everytime you sign a player, put all of the transfer fee and contract cost for its entire term in the hands of of the league, so when you get sanctioned or bored or fuck up and bankrupt yourself, well everyone is getting paid. 

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50 minutes ago, Anubis said:

Then, of course, there is the Mail article suggesting that rising costs have forced changes to the stadium design, the abandonment of the multi-storey car park, a substitution of cheaper building materials, and pre-fabrication of various parts of the stadium.

At this rate they'll be relying on the 3 little pigs to source the building materials.

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55 minutes ago, Anubis said:

Then, of course, there is the Mail article suggesting that rising costs have forced changes to the stadium design, the abandonment of the multi-storey car park, a substitution of cheaper building materials, and pre-fabrication of various parts of the stadium.

Why have steel and concrete when you can have tongue and groove?

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Just seen a few of them going on about it on Twitter saying it's a good thing that they have come up with this £30m themselves. They are all having a go at the Esk for being negative. 

 

But now they have that £30m to put up, have lost 3 Russian sponsors worth around £30m a year and will lose another £9m when their agreement with Cazoo finishes. That sounds extremely positive doesn't it.  

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I fucking love GOT. This SaintDomingo is proper mental.

 

 
Don't you find it strange that both the rs and city were great for 2 seasons, then their performances dropped afterwards. Chelsea are a good side, yet they don't seem to be far fitter than other teams, like the RS and City. There have been teams with bigger squads and better players who haven't achieved what the RS did in 2020. Milner has somehow got better as he's got older and playing in a far more physically demanding league. Other quality players haven't kept that up, yet he has. Also other than Vardy, Larsson and Wright almost all world class strikers were spotted at a young age. Messi, Ronaldo, Maradona, Rooney, Drogba, Shearer, Lukaku, Bergkamp and a variety of others. Can you explain how Salah wasn't being looked at by any other top clubs, yet has become world class overnight. It's almost unheard of for a world class striker or attacker, to not be in their prime, by let's say 20. You could see Rashfords class, from the very off, even Barkley you could see his quality, same when we had Eto. Firmino was crap when he started at the RS yet suddenly became a world beater. It's almost unheard of for 2 full backs out of nowhere to become quality, yet overnight Robertson and TAA came into their side a d set the world alight. Don't you find it strange how not 1 player who has left them under I look has done anything. Look at how many of their players have asthma, you wouldn't find that many asthmatics in any other workplace. Having done numerous community programmes relating to those with physical and mental health issues, I'm aware that ashstma is rarely concentrated in certain fields, compared to type 2 diabetes, liver issues and other lifestyle issues, that are related to people's socio economic


Spot on all of this but you’ll get called part of the tin foil hat brigade by the same group on here who seem to love this lot.

It’s the world class striker bit that resonates the most with me. These big clubs don’t miss a single one. Not a single one. They were picking up Messi as a teenager. They paid millions for Neymar. United swooped for a teenage Rooney with a record fee. Same with Ronaldo. Haaland and Mbappe have been signed up as teenagers to top clubs already. These top clubs are constantly gambling on young prodigies across the globe, and let’s be honest how many do they miss? Barely any, and if they do they’re buying them in their early 20s for huge money.

You can even extend it to CBs. Pique was world class as a teenager, both United and Barcelona knew it. Ramos also, Varane likewise. City shelled out 50 mill for John Stones. Even all the way back to Maldini. The class was obvious.


Then you have Liverpool who somehow managed to find the only three forwards in world football all in their mid 20s who happened to just morph into not only world class players (despite never showing it anywhere before) but arguably the best forward line in world football all at the same time! What an amazing coincidence.

But then to repeat the trick with Van Dijk as well, a player in his mid 20s who had been good for Celtic and Southampton to then become, according to the media now, the best CB in the world and maybe prem history. How did all these top clubs miss these prodigies in their teenage years?

To top it all off, how amazingly convenient that all these players came along just as two world class full backs appeared over night (despite no one mentioning TAA in his academy years at all, and Robertson looking terrible for Hull)

I see Coutinho is now at Aston Villa and Wijnaldum can’t get in the PSG team. Amazing how their period of world class form occurred for the only time in their career under Klopp at Liverpool.

He’s just a doping cheat, so is Pep (seriously I’d never even heard of Dias, Rodri, Jesus, Bernardo Silva before they all turned out to be world class). How convenient that they lost Kompany Silva Aguero (genuine generational world class players) and just replaced them so easily with a few players from Benfica and Atletico and arguably got even more consistent.

One day people will look back and wonder how they got sucked in by all this. It’s almost quite disgusting to watch. They’re just trampling on years of football history like it’s nothing. 100 points, 99 and 98 points, 18 game winning streaks, 5 and 6 nil wins becoming common place. Making PL teams look like Sunday league sides. Going to European power houses and smashing them on their own turf with their B teams like it’s nothing.

It’s pornographic and not the good kind. The game is seriously wrong and these two are the rotting core of it. Doping cheats.

 

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That Salah goal against Norwich which is shortlisted for this months Goal of the Month on MOTD: massive 80 yard boot downfield by Allison to Salah who slots.

Anyone else and that's described as agricultural...but the Establishment Club scores that way and it's included as a Goal of the Month contender.

That lot have been route one since Gerrard demanded Rodgers to be route one 7/8 years ago...THAT is their style. Big hoof to Suarez/Salah.

Norwich goalkeeper looked on the take in that game. The Mane goal is ridiculous, he could have just picked that up. His fake rush out and slip over for the Salah goal also looked suspect to me. At best it’s just abysmal abysmal goalkeeping, at worst it’s something else. Neither of them should have been in goal of the month.

 

 

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