Liverpool keeping close eye on McLeish contract talks

[BolshieBastard]

I agree with you regarding the track records coop as it shouldn't be the be all and end all. I am all for giving a young hungry manager with fresh ideas a chance to make his own track record.

 

I disagree with you however where you say if Rafa signed two centre halfs from the lower leagues this place would go into meltdown. That is exactly the type of business looking more at players in the lower leagues we should be looking at doing more often rather than letting Macia run riot with his Italian agents.

 

Wigan paid was it 1m for that McCarthy kid as a case in point. We spent best part of 20m on Aquilani and 6-7m on Lucas. Who got the better deal?

 

Totally agree with this. If some of our fans want to get out of their tree because we signed a couple of players from lower down the league, that's their problem.

 

As a club, we seem to have forgotten all about scouting our own leagues and instead, seem to mainly take the dross from other so called superior leagues.

[BolshieBastard]

I remember the fanzine with all the pictures on and Benitez was the one man most people couldnt name.

 

He was left field in terms of not being a house hold name.

 

Benitez wasnt considered a top manager at the time. He was 4th choice for valencia manager. He wasnt identified as someone Real or Barca wanted as manager. He was more akin to ramos with his two UEFA Cup wins with a largely unfashionable club.

 

Benitez was mainly considered for Liverpool manager because he was thought able to win titles on a budget.

Edited April 5, 2010 by BolshieBastard

[hamstrung]

He wasn't considered a top manager yet he was considered someone who could win titles on a budget.

 

Makes a bucket load of sense, that one.

 

Benitez was widely recognised as one of the top young coaches in Europe. The fact your average fan on the street didn't know him, says more about your average fan on the street, than it does about Benitez's "qualifications".

[BolshieBastard]

Obviously someone needs to waggle their tits more. When you consider benitez was 4th choice for valencia manager and parry & moores appointed him with that premise in mind, you can tell where the bucket load of nonsense comes from.

[Original202]

I just remember hearing we'd hired "the Valencia manager".

 

But then, I am an ignorant cunt.

[hamstrung]

How is the fact he was 4th choice for Valencia manager relevant to his appointment at Liverpool (and status in the game) 3+ years (and 3 major trophies) later?

 

Here's a clue.

 

Its not.

 

When you consider benitez was 4th choice for valencia manager and parry & moores appointed him with that premise in mind....

 

I don't think you mean what you typed there. Wouldn't expect you to understand though...

[BolshieBastard]

Well its seems some idiots dont have a problem appointing someone who was 4th choice at the club he was manager.

 

This 'top manager' wasnt on Juve, AC, Inter, Bayern, Real or Barca's radar when he became available. yet, we are to believe the fabled Parry who benitez was later to claim frequently missed his targets, pulled a masterstroke on all these other top European clubs!

 

Keep taking your medicine 'mate.'

[hamstrung]

Well its seems some idiots dont have a problem appointing someone who was 4th choice at the club he was manager.

 

This 'top manager' wasnt on Juve, AC, Inter, Bayern, Real or Barca's radar when he became available. yet, we are to believe the fabled Parry who benitez was later to claim frequently missed his targets, pulled a masterstroke on all these other top European clubs!

 

Keep taking your medicine 'mate.'

 

I'll set aside your typically retarded "4th choice" logic. I don't think I could spell it out in words you'll be able to comprehend.

 

However, you might want to do your research 'mate'. Bayern were one of the clubs interested in him (to replace Hitzfeld) when he left Valenica

[rondeco]

Young and up coming? Like who though?

 

We've gambled on our managers for too long, Houllier and Benitez were both left field appointments.

 

I want an established man.

 

Haha!

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

I remember the fanzine with all the pictures on and Benitez was the one man most people couldnt name.

 

He was left field in terms of not being a house hold name.

 

He was known to anybody interested in Spanish football. I doubt people could name many of the managers of top clubs around Europe. They're ignorant. Not really how we should base our judgement of what is or isn't left field. He'd won La Liga twice in the last three seasons. Nothing left field unless Martin O'Neill is used for the barometer of what is and isn't left field.

[Guest the boy]

hang on, hang on: if the young La Liga and UEFA Cup winning manager at a relatively unfashionable team was the left-field option; who was the sensible man's choice?

[Guest the boy]

hang on, hang on: so appointing a manager who won us a European Cup, FA Cup and got us to another European Cup final in his first seasons wasn't, at that point in time, proven a masterstroke?

[Dicko]

hang on, hang on: if the young La Liga and UEFA Cup winning manager at a relatively unfashionable team was the left-field option; who was the sensible man's choice?

 

Alan Curbishley & Gordon Strachan.

It was to Moores & Parry, oh & Gerrard wanted Curbishley too.

[Captain]

hang on, hang on: if the young La Liga and UEFA Cup winning manager at a relatively unfashionable team was the left-field option; who was the sensible man's choice?

 

I can only speak for myself, but I wanted Hitzfeld. Does that make me sensible?

[Guest the boy]

jackpot.

 

 

Alex McLeish, Jermaine Beckford, Billy Davies, Billy Bunter, Tony Pulis, Graham Dorrans, Liam Ridgewell: save us!

[hamstrung]

Oswaldo de Oliveira

That's left field

[BolshieBastard]

I'll set aside your typically retarded "4th choice" logic. I don't think I could spell it out in words you'll be able to comprehend.

 

However, you might want to do your research 'mate'. Bayern were one of the clubs interested in him (to replace Hitzfeld) when he left Valenica

 

4th choice logic? So you're not aware Valencia approached Irureta, Mané and Luis Aragonés before one director suggested benitez?

 

I dont recall Bayern making any moves for benitez never mind serious moves for him. Didnt try very hard did they?

 

Go milk you moobs.

[hamstrung]

With some posters you can discuss things, and use logic and reason and all those good things. Other posters you might need to laugh and point at because they're a bit goofy.

 

With some really special ones, you can rely on them to make themselves look like thick goons all by themselves.

 

This is boring me, and I am sure everyone else now. Ignore me or keep your previous promise and fuck off for good.

[Juan Galonso]

Alan Curbishley & Gordon Strachan.

It was to Moores & Parry, oh & Gerrard wanted Curbishley too.

 

They were on the shortlist but it was Rafa they wanted from the turn of 2004. He was always first choice.