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4 minutes ago, dockers_strike said:

I thought we bought Coutinho well before the time of the 'hacking'? And last I heard, didnt city speed up their purchases of players when they became aware of it so not sure how they missed out on any targets.

A lot more would have been made of it had they suffered any tangible damage 

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11 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

I think there's plenty of blame to go around. We can blame ourselves, but we can also blame a bunch of twats for being twats who are making twatish stuff up. 

I put the blame squarely on the two arseholes we employed from city and them thinking logging in to their old employers system was 'ok.' No, it's not ok and really, the club should have instantly dismissed them as soon as it found out. Now the club is paying the price.

 

Confidentiallity clauses nearly always find their way into the public domain when one party is later made the subject of scrutiny. The FFP thing was city's excuse to do this.

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1 minute ago, TheHowieLama said:

If it went on for 8 months everyone knew.

Not necessary if they covered it up, even city didnt realise for the period and their system was being accessed. But I understand your point and in my opinion, the same stands. Anyone connected to the club who idlly stood by and let them crack on is equally complicit.

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It's the first time Coutinho's name has been mentioned anywhere, meaning instead if this having any basis in reality, it's just one blue loon who has looked at the approximate hacking date of 2012-13 and has cross referenced it with every player we signed at that time, and Phil was the only one you could call successful so obviously Man City seen him before we did because we couldn't have possibly discovered him on our own. 

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Just now, TheHowieLama said:

Daniel Sturridge liked this


If we read their reports on Sturridge and still signed him* then we need to check the rocks in our heads.

 

*one season withstanding. 

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7 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:


If we read their reports on Sturridge and still signed him* then we need to check the rocks in our heads.

 

*one season withstanding. 

If they are spending time scouting a player they had already owned and then sold to Chelsea a few years earlier maybe they are the ones who need their heads checked. 

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The idea that most major clubs weren't aware of him anyway is just laughable. He'd played almost 50 games for Inter and had a successful loan spell at Espanyol ffs.

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I'm pretty sure it was reported at the time we signed him because the city scouts who joined pushed us to move forward. That doesn't need hacking though, just remembering you'd scouted him and he was good. 

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ttps://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/21236041

 

New manager Claudio Ranieri sent Coutinho on loan to struggling Spanish side Espanyol for the second half of the following season. He impressed, scoring five goals in 16 appearances.


This was when Liverpool first showed an interest in the player. Benitez had told their director of football, Damian Comolli, that Coutinho was the best young player at Inter and capable of being a big success in the Premier League.

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The reason there’s a confidentiality clause is because we hacked their system and inserted scouting files on John Stones and Fabian Delph....

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Scott Sinclair and Rodwell that year. Ooft.

 

Mind you, they went and spunked £50m on Jovetic and Negredo the year after so maybe it's more a matter of we found out who to avoid.

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28 minutes ago, kemskem said:

ttps://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/21236041

 

New manager Claudio Ranieri sent Coutinho on loan to struggling Spanish side Espanyol for the second half of the following season. He impressed, scoring five goals in 16 appearances.


This was when Liverpool first showed an interest in the player. Benitez had told their director of football, Damian Comolli, that Coutinho was the best young player at Inter and capable of being a big success in the Premier League.

Wonder if spurs hacked their system at the same time? I mean Pochettino was very interested in signing him at the time as well.

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5 minutes ago, dockers_strike said:

Wonder if spurs hacked their system at the same time? I mean Pochettino was very interested in signing him at the time as well.

Pochettino was never at Spurs in 2013, was he?? 

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51 minutes ago, Anubis said:

The reason there’s a confidentiality clause is because we hacked their system and inserted scouting files on John Stones and Fabian Delph....

Scouting reports were leaked...

 

John Stones: a beautiful footballer, most un-English, knows how to pass (though not how to defend), gives David Moyes the horn, major supporter of Catalan independence, less interested in middle eastern rights.

 

Fabian Delph: massive ego, no discernible talent, can always flog him to Everton when he proves to be useless, gives Jordan Pickford the horn, never heard of the middle east, no interest in human rights, called Fabian.

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2 hours ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

I know our scouts essentially based themselves in Southampton, but even I reckon they wouldn't have needed City's assistance to know that Coutinho was a prospect. 

Southampton were after him at that point.

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6 hours ago, kemskem said:

ttps://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/21236041

 

New manager Claudio Ranieri sent Coutinho on loan to struggling Spanish side Espanyol for the second half of the following season. He impressed, scoring five goals in 16 appearances.


This was when Liverpool first showed an interest in the player. Benitez had told their director of football, Damian Comolli, that Coutinho was the best young player at Inter and capable of being a big success in the Premier League.


Well that’s just bollocks as Rafa had left the club before Comolli had joined. 

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1 hour ago, lifetime fan said:


Well that’s just bollocks as Rafa had left the club before Comolli had joined. 

Yep, camolli was fsg's 1st hire and that was during the glorious owl era. 

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2 hours ago, lifetime fan said:


Well that’s just bollocks as Rafa had left the club before Comolli had joined. 

Rafa was at Inter at the time we bought Coutinho from them and he recommended that he would be a good signing for us.

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2 hours ago, ManéMan said:

Rafa was at Inter at the time we bought Coutinho from them and he recommended that he would be a good signing for us.

Actually he’d left and apparently recommended him having been impressed and given him his chance


He returned in the summer of 2010 and quickly established himself as a favourite of new manager Benitez, featuring in 14 league and Champions League games before Christmas, most often as a wide attacker in a 4-2-3-1 formation.

 

Unfortunately for the player, Benitez was sacked in December and his successor, Leonardo, was not anywhere near as big a fan of the young Brazilian. He played only four more games that season, although he did finish on a high by winning the Fifa under-20 World Cup with Brazil in the summer.

 

New manager Claudio Ranieri sent Coutinho on loan to struggling Spanish side Espanyol for the second half of the following season. He impressed, scoring five goals in 16 appearances.

 

This was when Liverpool first showed an interest in the player. Benitez had told their director of football, Damian Comolli, that Coutinho was the best young player at Inter and capable of being a big success in the Premier League.

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