Man City - the new bitters?

[Barrington Womble]

58 minutes ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

Is it true his brother is a city season ticket holder. If it is true whether he's good or not he should not be officiating ours or citys games.

 

Dunno mate. I know Tierney's family have city STs. 

[Tj hooker]

1 hour ago, Barrington Womble said:

Dunno mate. I know Tierney's family have city STs. 

Not questioning your sources Barry but how do you know please 

[Barrington Womble]

9 minutes ago, Tj hooker said:

Not questioning your sources Barry but how do you know please 

Good question :) I was told ages ago, but I thought it was reasonably common knowledge. 

[coachpotato]

Doesn’t matter if Kavanaughs brother has a City season ticket or not, he shouldn’t be near any game involving City, or United, because of the close proximity to those clubs that he lives.

 

The same goes for any official being appointed similarly.

 

Webb should be hauled over the coals for a) putting his official(s) in a potentially awkward position in the first place and b) allowing the PGMOL to be questioned about its “neutrality” by not appointing officials who live away from the area of the clubs they are officiating.

It is of course still possible that an official who comes from, say, Kent could still be a City or, more likely, a United fan, but it’s taking the piss and flipping the bird to everyone to continue making these appointments when there is so much controversy in so many games due to the officials.

 

 

[Barrington Womble]

35 minutes ago, coachpotato said:

Doesn’t matter if Kavanaughs brother has a City season ticket or not, he shouldn’t be near any game involving City, or United, because of the close proximity to those clubs that he lives.

 

The same goes for any official being appointed similarly.

 

Webb should be hauled over the coals for a) putting his official(s) in a potentially awkward position in the first place and b) allowing the PGMOL to be questioned about its “neutrality” by not appointing officials who live away from the area of the clubs they are officiating.

It is of course still possible that an official who comes from, say, Kent could still be a City or, more likely, a United fan, but it’s taking the piss and flipping the bird to everyone to continue making these appointments when there is so much controversy in so many games due to the officials.

 

 

Webb didn't care about officials being paid by the same people who own a premier League club, so he's not going to worry about little things like their club and geographical affiliations.

 

He realises the press in this country don't want to countenance the idea of any bias, conscious or sub conscious, by the officials in this country. That's for Johnny foreigner and anyone who says otherwise is in the tin hat brigade. 

[Razoray]

8 hours ago, Anubis said:

 

C'mon man, the distance between Manchester City Centre and Ashton under Lyne is a whopping 8 miles. They're nowhere near each other....

5.5 miles from City of Manchester Stadium to Ashton under Lyne. 

[razor]

19 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

Webb didn't care about officials being paid by the same people who own a premier League club, so he's not going to worry about little things like their club and geographical affiliations.

 

He realises the press in this country don't want to countenance the idea of any bias, conscious or sub conscious, by the officials in this country. That's for Johnny foreigner and anyone who says otherwise is in the tin hat brigade. 

 

It really is amazing that we've somehow crept to this position.

 

This is why you get things written down in an agreed constitution from the very beginning.  It should have been written in Section A (80 B ii) that "No referee should officiate a club located within ...." or whatever.*

 

If it's not done, you end up where we are by stealth.

 

So now, the standardised response to any question around this issue would be "Are you questioning the integrity of these professionals?"

 

 

 

* I haven't taken into account the fact that under the current refereeing roster, Manchester United and Manchester City would end up with a rotation of about two refs for a whole season.

[Barrington Womble]

16 hours ago, razor said:

 

It really is amazing that we've somehow crept to this position.

 

This is why you get things written down in an agreed constitution from the very beginning.  It should have been written in Section A (80 B ii) that "No referee should officiate a club located within ...." or whatever.*

 

If it's not done, you end up where we are by stealth.

 

So now, the standardised response to any question around this issue would be "Are you questioning the integrity of these professionals?"

 

 

 

* I haven't taken into account the fact that under the current refereeing roster, Manchester United and Manchester City would end up with a rotation of about two refs for a whole season.

it's like the Mike Dean thing. Despite being a verified tranmere fan and coming from the other side of the water where he had at least i guess 20% chance of being a red manc, they banned him from taking our games for years. Although he shouldn't have got manc games either. then covid came along and sniding these cunts in seemed to just stick, even we got mike dean, which was no pleasant surprise either. 

 

to be honest, i am more interested in what is going on that we have such a large proportion of the elite referees (and by elite I very much don't mean good, i mean those classed say as top 10 despite being fucking useless) who come from the greater manchester area. while this area provides us with around 2.5% of the english population, it must provide us with around 50% of "elite" referees. something is very wrong in the system somewhere. i know to be a ref, you need to be an absolute cunt, which gives mancunians somewhat of an advantage over the rest of the population. but despite the complete cuntery of people from manchester, it does not support there being 50% from a 2.5% demographic. 

[Tj hooker]

I've no idea who the City chief is but if it's the actual Head honcho then he's having a laugh 

[aws]

He’s right though - it is astonishing. 

[Barrington Womble]

4 hours ago, Tj hooker said:

I've no idea who the City chief is but if it's the actual Head honcho then he's having a laugh 

Funny that considering my mates lad bought one two games into the season after he started uni - oh and paid about 350 quid. 

[SlugTrail]

Nothing like a bit of pro media attention shining a light away from your corruption, how long till Bluto takes over as editor.

 

 

Gulf investors close in on Telegraph takeover

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A deal that will bring Abu Dhabi-backed investors a step closer to taking control of the Telegraph and Spectator magazine could be agreed as soon as Friday, the BBC understands.

 

The titles were taken over by Lloyds Bank as it sought to recover £1.1bn owed by the owners, the Barclay family.

 

An Abu Dhabi-backed firm this month agreed to pay the sum and take control.

 

It is not clear yet if the deal will be scrutinised but sources said it was "unlikely" to be blocked.

 

Under the terms of the deal, the Barclay family is expected to transfer ownership of the influential titles to IMI Redbird, an investment group backed by the ruling family of the United Arab Emirates (UAE).

 

People close to the controversial transaction said they thought it was "highly unlikely" the government would prevent a UK bank from collecting its debts - or prevent a creditor facing the threat of rising interest payments from repaying a loan.

 

However, the planned transfer is expected to come under inspection by the government, which has the power to intervene in transactions on specified public interest grounds.

 

Culture Secretary Lucy Frazer has already indicated she is "minded" to issue a Public Interest Intervention Notice (PIIN).

 

Former Telegraph editor Charles Moore and senior Conservative politicians, including William Hague, have also voiced grave concerns about the influential Tory-friendly titles falling into the ultimate ownership of a foreign state.

 

The UAE's Sheikh Mansour would be taking a financial risk by advancing money to pay off the Barclays debts when it is uncertain that his company would be able to take ownership of the assets.

 

One person close to the situation said that was "a risk they seemed prepared to take".

 

Sources close to Lloyds Bank said they should be permitted to collect on their debts. They said the ongoing issues over eventual ownership and editorial independence were not a matter for the bank.

 

The repayment of the debt would effectively end an auction process initiated by Lloyds to reclaim some of their debts.

 

Bidders for the titles had included hedge fund tycoon and GB News owner Paul Marshall and the Daily Mail owner DMGT.

 

Former CNN chief Jeff Zucker, the front man for IMI Redbird, has accused rivals of "throwing darts" and "slinging mud".

 

He has insisted that the current editorial independence of the publications would be assured by robust organisational structures.

 

IMI Redbird is being advised by Ed Richards, the former head of media regulator Ofcom.

 

The United Arab Emirates is already a significant investor in the UK and is on a short list of bidders to take a stake in a new nuclear power station at Sizewell in Suffolk.

 

Sheikh Mansour is also the owner of the Manchester City football team.

 

The deal for the Telegraph, Sunday Telegraph and Spectator values the publications at around £600 million.

 

The United Arab Emirates will also take a more than £500m charge over the other assets of the Barclay family, which include the Very retail group.

 

At a high-profile global investment summit on Monday at Hampton Court, attended by representatives of the UAE, investment minister Dominic Johnson told the BBC that the UAE was an "important enthusiastic and strategic investor in the UK".

 

He declined to comment on the Telegraph situation insisting it was a matter for Department for Culture, Media and Sport (DCMS).

 

The DCMS declined to comment this evening

[No2]

Redbird own part of FSG, I think.

[Scott_M]

“Autumn’24”

 

[Barrington Womble]

16 hours ago, No2 said:

Redbird own part of FSG, I think.

 

Redbird IMI is a JV with Redbird Capital (who own 10% of fsg) and IMI who I think is effectively shiek mansour. 

[Captain Turdseye]

On 30/11/2023 at 17:42, Scott_M said:

“Autumn’24”

 

Spring ‘25 it is now. Good stuff here from Ronay. 
 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/dec/01/premier-league-in-peril-as-gold-mine-manchester-citys-date-with-destiny-looms?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

[Lee909]

Something tells me part of the government wanting a 'independent' regulator is to support the government forcing the league to accept the Saudi takeover and likely to make sure the Saudi and Abu Dhabi are looked after so they don't pull out of deals

[KMD7]

7 minutes ago, Captain Turdseye said:

Spring ‘25 it is now. Good stuff here from Ronay. 
 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/dec/01/premier-league-in-peril-as-gold-mine-manchester-citys-date-with-destiny-looms?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Great article that.

[Scott_M]

1 hour ago, Lee909 said:

Something tells me part of the government wanting a 'independent' regulator is to support the government forcing the league to accept the Saudi takeover and likely to make sure the Saudi and Abu Dhabi are looked after so they don't pull out of deals

It does feel somewhat worrying that the UAE government will be able to lean on the UK government, who will in turn lean on the Premiership, to provide an innocent charge or slap on the wrists. 
 

£25bn on investment and trade can’t be sniffed at, especially as the UK has shot itself in the foot economically over the past 10 years. 
 

I can see this getting very ugly. What if City are found innocent(-ish) and largely get away with it and other Premiership sides disagree with it? Could clubs sue City? Or could clubs sue the Premiership? Could clubs force a breakaway from the Premiership and / or UEFA? 
 

What will City do if they are found guilty? They’ll be sure to appeal to the highest courts in the land. 
 

IMO, there will be an admission of guilt, a record fine and a record points deduction (-20 or so), they’ll still be allowed to compete it the CL and given City’s quality won’t be overly damaging (ie they’ll stay up or still qualify for Europe). Most people will say they got away lightly, City and the PL will say “record fines / points deduction” and nobody will be left satisfied. 

[No2]

On 02/12/2023 at 12:39, Scott_M said:

It does feel somewhat worrying that the UAE government will be able to lean on the UK government, who will in turn lean on the Premiership, to provide an innocent charge or slap on the wrists. 
 

£25bn on investment and trade can’t be sniffed at, especially as the UK has shot itself in the foot economically over the past 10 years. 
 

I can see this getting very ugly. What if City are found innocent(-ish) and largely get away with it and other Premiership sides disagree with it? Could clubs sue City? Or could clubs sue the Premiership? Could clubs force a breakaway from the Premiership and / or UEFA? 
 

What will City do if they are found guilty? They’ll be sure to appeal to the highest courts in the land. 
 

IMO, there will be an admission of guilt, a record fine and a record points deduction (-20 or so), they’ll still be allowed to compete it the CL and given City’s quality won’t be overly damaging (ie they’ll stay up or still qualify for Europe). Most people will say they got away lightly, City and the PL will say “record fines / points deduction” and nobody will be left satisfied. 

City have been accused of fraud. They aren't owning up to that. Any guilty verdict will have corrupt red teams attached to it. Ronay has it right though, guilty won't be one of the options.

[Scott_M]

19 hours ago, No2 said:

City have been accused of fraud. They aren't owning up to that. Any guilty verdict will have corrupt red teams attached to it. Ronay has it right though, guilty won't be one of the options.

I don’t know what each of the 115 charges are, not all are fraud.

 

As I said, the outcome will be nobody is left satisfied.

[Pete]

Manchester City: FA charges champions with failing to control players in Tottenham game https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67618251
 

now throw the book at the grock. 

[Anubis]

Fucking joke.

 

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However, the FA will not be handing out any further charges relating to the fixture, so Haaland is not facing an individual punishment.

 

[LFC 6 Times]

Soft cunts.

[aws]

7 minutes ago, Anubis said:

Fucking joke.

 

 

So the latest Respect campaign ends with us again.