Paris shootings

[SasaS]

 Now, back to the crisis at hand.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Tito was a calculated Croat, not independent, like those who welcomed the Nazis with open arms in the streets of Zagreb. Was your family one of them too? How many Jews did they send to concentration camps in your beloved Nazi Germany?

Cuntery of the highest order.

[Anubis]

He lives in Brest.

 

But yeah hope he is okay.

Cheers. I didn't know where he lived.

[General Dryness]

He lives in Brest.

 

But yeah hope he is okay.

Sounds lovely. Do the call the centre of Brest "Le Nipple"? If they don't, they should.

 

Personally, I would prefer to spend most of my time south of Brest.

[Red Phoenix]

1. Yugoslavia (Serbia + Montenegro at the time of Kosovo bombings) was hardly socialist at all, Socialist Party which was in power in Serbia was socialist only in name, it was mostly a large scale criminal enterprise borne out of western sanctions imposed because of Bosnia, which Serbian democratic forces fought for years, Serbian PM Đinđić who replaced Milosevic and later shipped him to the International Tribunal in  Hague was assassinated in 2003 when he threatened to bring this complex web of interlinked police and crime organizations  down

 

etc.

 

So basically the mainstream media narrative. No, I'm not buying it, sorry (bits of that will be right factually, but no way most of it I don't think.)

 

Not derailing this either, if you want to carry it on, maybe respond here? http://www.liverpoolway.co.uk/index.php?/topic/93301-rise-of-the-far-right-in-europe/page-5

[SasaS]

So basically the mainstream media narrative. No, I'm not buying it, sorry (bits of that will be right factually, but no way most of it I don't think.)

 

Not derailing this either, if you want to carry it on, maybe respond here? http://www.liverpoolway.co.uk/index.php?/topic/93301-rise-of-the-far-right-in-europe/page-5

 

I might, when I find the time. I agree we should not derail this thread, I will only say it is not just the "mainstream media" narrative and you can safely take it to the bank.

[Nightcat]

And look at Kosovo now. A Saudi/west puppet failed state, an International center for human organ trafficking, drug trafficking and a nuclear wasteland of the North. Glory days.

 

You will hear more of Kosovo in the future, especially in relation to jihadists.

[Rico1304]

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/07/27/this-crowd-brought-their-children-to-watch-isis-brutally-execute-a-gay-man/

[Arnaud]

He lives in Brest.

 

But yeah hope he is okay.

Hello people, thanks for the thought. I'm fine, actually I'm from Brest but I live in Vincennes , 15 mn ride by car from Voltaire where it took place. Vincennes is the place where a terrorist killed people in a Jewish shop in January. My son was at a birthday party Saturday afternoon. , a street away from where the police found one of the car.

 

It could have been any one, lots of people go to the bataclan or any of the numerous terraces on boulevard Voltaire. Most people were between 25 and 45.

 

The show must go on, but obviously we re all a bit scared, how can it be different ? It sucks badly, I know people who died at the bataclan, so how will we cope ? Will we go to concert again, will we go to the stade de France with our kids again ?

 

I'm not sure really .... What's horrible actually is the we know for sure they are going to do it again .....

[VladimirIlyich]

So are we for sanctions or against them on this forum? I'm so confused, which I suppose ties into Rico's post about consistency.

 

Perhaps we can power our motor cars with unicorn farts.

This is one the daftest posts you have ever posted.

You know full well that those of us heavily opposed to the west's involvement and strategy in the Middle East are constantly citing Saudi Arabia as arguably the biggest problem concerning funding and helping terrorism. Hell, have we forgotten already which country and royal family Bin Laden was part of?

 

[s(k)aturation]

Tito was a calculated Croat, not independent, like those who welcomed the Nazis with open arms in the streets of Zagreb. Was your family one of them too? How many Jews did they send to concentration camps in your beloved Nazi Germany?

 

You are an idiot.

And I mean that in both the vernacular and literal Greek root meaning of the word.

Only a loner with imbecilic tendencies could say something like this.  Even as a wind-up.

 

And... Tito was an independent, in that he was a Croat who decided to betray his own "nationality" and put his cowardly stock in populism, ie. the Serb majority that proliferated the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes (Yugoslavia).  He went with the strength in the area, and used it to become a capricious dictator.

 

The reason Yugoslavia was united until his death in 1980 was because if you so much as uttered a word of criticism about him and his typically lazy Communist rank-and-file administration - even a joke (and they were a joke) - you would be frogmarched off to jail and the key discarded.

 

His jails and pockets were always full, he had a mansion he'd built or stolen off citizens here, there and everywhere around that beautiful part of the world, and spent much of his time at things like cocktail parties at Buckingham Palace... where he inevitably received his honorary Knighthood from Her Majesty.

 

The reason Yugoslavia broke up and tragically descended into what it did after his death in 1980, was because he quite intentionally made no provision for a succession plan or for what would happen to his "beloved" people - still a fractious potpourri of disparate politics, beliefs and ideologies, in reality - after his death.

 

Because, like most dictators, he didn't give a fuck about anyone except himself.  And least of all, Croats, of which yes he was one.

 

A very, very independent and successful one, mostly at the expense of Croatians.  He has as much to answer for as your common or garden Nazi that's for sure.

 

In other news, the Serbs were the ones least fussed about independence. Even Milosevic was happy with a continued Yugoslavia, provided it was run by ultra-nationalist Serb interests... of which he would simply have become a dictatorial successor, if he'd had his way.

 

In conclusion, I rarely resort to this, but I think it's warranted in this circumstance:  FUCK OFF.

[Nightcat]

So we have established that a) Tito was a Croat and that b ) Croats were predominantly Nazis.

 

It is hardly surprising the Germans supported them in the civil war and bombed Serbia at a later stage. The Germans also supported the coup and the NeoNazi government of Ukraine. It didn't work out very well there.

[s(k)aturation]

It was establlished what you are a long time ago.

Your Dad should have settled for the blow job.

[TheHowieLama]

Not the Somalian way

[VladimirIlyich]

Is there a particular reason why France is being targeted specifically in recent times? Treatment of refugees? The rise of a vocal right wing in the country? Brutality towards Muslims in particular?

[SasaS]

I think it's the combination of "low hanging fruit" and their prominent role in fighting Islamists in Africa.

[Nightcat]

It was establlished what you are a long time ago.

Your Dad should have settled for the blow job.

You mean I didn't deserve to be born? That's what you used to say to the Jews as well and the gays and the disabled etc...

[s(k)aturation]

Nah, mate, just about you.

And I'll bow out on that score with you and stop wasting everyone else's leisure time.

[ZonkoVille77]

Some right whopper chat going on over the last few pages. Unnecessary.

[Rico1304]

Correct.

[Jose Jones]

Is there a particular reason why France is being targeted specifically in recent times? Treatment of refugees? The rise of a vocal right wing in the country? Brutality towards Muslims in particular?

 

Historical colonial fuckery, plus disadvantaged and disengaged second and third generation immigrants leaves fertile ground for recruitment.  Then also France is actively secular - talks of banning the hijab and whatnot. 

[Bjornebye]

Is there a particular reason why France is being targeted specifically in recent times? Treatment of refugees? The rise of a vocal right wing in the country? Brutality towards Muslims in particular?

 

Glorifying air strikes and Charlie Hebdo taking the piss out of Mohammed. Plus it's easier to get weapons into France. I'm sure they would much rather do London than Paris but Paris seems a shit load easier. 

 

I've been saying for ages that even mentioning bombing raids etc in the media is fucking stupid. Last year it was off with peoples heads when air strikes happened. Now its mass murder. Still, sells papers and gets hits on the websites doesn't it. 

[TheHowieLama]

You mean I didn't deserve to be born? That's what you used to say to the Jews as well and the gays and the disabled etc...

 

I would think a Somalian would have some interesting insight into a conversation about the Muslim world. Mentioning birth, even more insight into the plight of women and children and the population explosion in Somalia and its relationship to Islamic idealogy. What say you?

[Oh Buoy]

Someone call Nightcat a divvy.

 

 

 

 

Again.

[Jairzinho]

I would think a Somalian would have some interesting insight into a conversation about the Muslim world. Mentioning birth, even more insight into the plight of women and children and the population explosion in Somalia and its relationship to Islamic idealogy. What say you?

 

I agree. A Somalian would.