Should the UK remain a member of the EU

[Mudface]

 

[Captain Turdseye]

On 04/02/2020 at 16:21, SasaS said:

Here you go. You're welcome.
 

Surely this one is better.

 

 

Where are you in that crowd, @cloggypop?

[Scooby Dudek]

 

[cloggypop]

11 minutes ago, Captain Turdseye said:

Surely this one is better.

 

 

Where are you in that crowd, @cloggypop?

That's me in the orange. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Fuck Queens/Kings Day crowds 

[sir roger]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2020/feb/04/david-squires-on-what-football-can-expect-in-the-aftermath-of-brexit

 

Squires as brilliant as ever.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

On 05/02/2020 at 10:34, No2 said:

.I would bet my last euro there won't be a car industry in the UK in 2030.

Before Gnash or anyone accuses you of being overdramatic, let's just ask "How will the UK car industry (or any other manufacturing) work in 2030? Where will they get equipment, materials and components? Where will they export to?"

[SasaS]

6 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Before Gnash or anyone accuses you of being overdramatic, let's just ask "How will the UK car industry (or any other manufacturing) work in 2030? Where will they get equipment, materials and components? Where will they export to?"

Is it a trick question?

[Strontium]

Bloody immigrant kids, coming over here and humiliating the thick natives...

 

https://inews.co.uk/news/education/gcses-students-immigrant-background-native-speaking-1392113

 

GCSEs: Students from an immigrant background beat native-speaking peers
Teenagers whose first language is not English outperformed native-speakers on all of the Government’s key measures

Children from an immigrant background in England have done better than their native-speaking classmates in their GCSEs.

Figures published by the Department for Education show that teenagers whose first language is not English outperformed native-speakers on all of the Government’s key measures.

For example, in 2019 43.8 per cent of students whose first language is not English achieved a strong 9-5 grade pass in English and maths, compared to 43.2 per cent of native speakers.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

More dogma-driven stupidity.  This follows the now-familiar pattern of specific concerns being waved away with vague, patriotic-sounding platitudes.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51783580

 

[sir roger]

But we will be getting on them with blue passports , that is more important surely.

[Anubis]

Brexit means Brex.....   ....oh.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/apr/17/british-workers-reject-fruit-picking-jobs-as-romanians-flown-in-coronavirus

 

 

[Gnasher]

4 hours ago, Anubis said:

Brexit means Brex.....   ....oh.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/apr/17/british-workers-reject-fruit-picking-jobs-as-romanians-flown-in-coronavirus

 

 

Havnt read the link but.its got the smell of a boss taking advantage of cheap labour,  pay the right money with the right working conditions you wouldn't need to fly anyone in from anywhere. 

[Pureblood]

1 hour ago, Gnasher said:

Havnt read the link but.its got the smell of a boss taking advantage of cheap labour,  pay the right money with the right working conditions you wouldn't need to fly anyone in from anywhere. 

There has been a big campaign to "get Britain picking".  Nobody wants to do it. 

[Gnasher]

1 hour ago, TK421 said:

There has been a big campaign to "get Britain picking".  Nobody wants to do it. 

Well that depends on the money, it's as simple as that.

 

The alternative is to cram a load of east Europeans onto a plane, let them work for a lower rate than local labour and house them in temporary shack.

[Gnasher]

1 hour ago, TK421 said:

There has been a big campaign to "get Britain picking".  Nobody wants to do it. 

https://images.app.goo.gl/9Hw1ozUvJxrBZjcs6

 

 

[Captain Turdseye]

4 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Well that depends on the money, it's as simple as that.

 

The alternative is to cram a load of east Europeans onto a plane, let them work for a lower rate than local labour and house them in temporary shack.

Read the article. The jobs require people to live on site. For your average man on the street with a missus and kids it’s just not feasible. 

[Mudface]

2 minutes ago, Captain Turdseye said:

Read the article. The jobs require people to live on site. For your average man on the street with a missus and kids it’s just not feasible. 

Yep, plus the money's rubbish too and there's a skill to it, which not many in the UK have. Unless you want your fruit and veg to cost three times what it does now, then you have to import the labour.

[Gnasher]

5 minutes ago, Captain Turdseye said:

Read the article. The jobs require people to live on site. For your average man on the street with a missus and kids it’s just not feasible. 

Fair enough. What about average single man? I'd guess we back to square one, dont pay enough.

[Gnasher]

2 minutes ago, Mudface said:

Yep, plus the money's rubbish too and there's a skill to it, which not many in the UK have. Unless you want your fruit and veg to cost three times what it does now, then you have to import the labour.

I'd rather pay the extra 

[Mudface]

3 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

I'd rather pay the extra 

OK. So suddenly, a whole swathe of the population can't afford to buy fruit grown here. Imported fruit becomes massively cheaper, and UK farms go out of business. 

 

Now what? Do we start banning foreign imports, and engage in a tit for tat trade war? Or just go it alone, pricing a load of our population out of fresh produce?

[Gnasher]

4 hours ago, Mudface said:

OK. So suddenly, a whole swathe of the population can't afford to buy fruit grown here. Imported fruit becomes massively cheaper, and UK farms go out of business. 

 

Now what? Do we start banning foreign imports, and engage in a tit for tat trade war? Or just go it alone, pricing a load of our population out of fresh produce?

Or alternatively swamp the country with cheap labour. A bosses/paymaster/landowners wet dream,. 

 

Nah I'd rather pay a bit extra.

[TheHowieLama]

Agriculture has been built on migrant workers worldwide for generations.

 

@Gnasher you know well that you wouldn't because you don't. You could buy local fresh veg now, if you were you would be crowing about it.

[Gnasher]

6 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

Agriculture has been built on migrant workers worldwide for generations.

 

@Gnasher you know well that you wouldn't because you don't. You could buy local fresh veg now, if you were you would be crowing about it.

I'd rather see farmers pay the going rate for a change instead of flying in cheap labour. Farmers are low down in the people I give a fuvk about to be honest. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

14 hours ago, Gnasher said:

Havnt read the link but.its got the smell of a boss taking advantage of cheap labour,  pay the right money with the right working conditions you wouldn't need to fly anyone in from anywhere. 

Extend those rights to workers from the EU and any negative impacts of immigration on low-paid UK workers just vanish.

 

(I may have mentioned this before: you don't improve workers' rights by reducing workers' rights.)

[AngryOfTuebrook]

11 hours ago, Gnasher said:

Well that depends on the money, it's as simple as that.

 

The alternative is to cram a load of east Europeans onto a plane, let them work for a lower rate than local labour and house them in temporary shack.

That's the Tory alternative.