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1 hour ago, VERBAL DIARRHEA said:

Solanke, Ings, Ward = £50m plus. Hoever’s part in the Jota payment plan? 
We all know money has come in whatever your thoughts on spending are.

Aren't our transfers done in instalments nowadays? For instance Jota is 40 million at 10 million per season I read somewhere. 

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I’d been broadly supportive of the ownership until a year or so ago, but they’ve pissed away most of the goodwill. I’m also sick of fans saying “ooohh, we only spend what comes in and the wage bill is big!” as though it’s perfectly normal for any club, let alone one of the biggest in the world, to have a negative net-spend over several years, LET ALONE during a period of huge success.

 

It’s fucking weird and absolutely not conducive to maintaining a spot at the top table. Another thing I hear is that “Klopp likes a smallish squad” which, if true, is fine, but if he likes one that remains in stasis and ages together to the point of impotency, then perhaps it was never going to work out long-term after the CL and title win. I struggle to believe he’s happy with the tools he’s been given since winning the title. 

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39 minutes ago, TheDrowningMan said:

I’d been broadly supportive of the ownership until a year or so ago, but they’ve pissed away most of the goodwill. I’m also sick of fans saying “ooohh, we only spend what comes in and the wage bill is big!” as though it’s perfectly normal for any club, let alone one of the biggest in the world, to have a negative net-spend over several years, LET ALONE during a period of huge success.

 

It’s fucking weird and absolutely not conducive to maintaining a spot at the top table. Another thing I hear is that “Klopp likes a smallish squad” which, if true, is fine, but if he likes one that remains in stasis and ages together to the point of impotency, then perhaps it was never going to work out long-term after the CL and title win. I struggle to believe he’s happy with the tools he’s been given since winning the title. 

I think klopp quite likes a challenge. He's not stupid and knows if we bought good players it would increase our chances of winning. But I sense he's not against the idea of trying to be brilliant despite the boardroom contribution. 

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Anyone else thinking things are going sour over this mo business or lack of? Said it all seeing Jurgen sat down in the second half, he gave up don't blame him. If fsg don't sort it out with mo then we might lose Klopp too. The lampshade and couch scenario again. Cunts. 

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18 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

I think klopp quite likes a challenge. He's not stupid and knows if we bought good players it would increase our chances of winning. But I sense he's not against the idea of trying to be brilliant despite the boardroom contribution. 

Thankfully for us! He definitely seems to be a glass half full type of bloke. 

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We are the late Wenger version of Arsenal. Happy to get top 4 and anything else is a bonus. Heck just being in the PL brings in a shit load of money. There's literally no reason to splash the cash until it becomes really necessary.

 

And I for one minute don't believe that Klopp is at odds with the scenario. He's got enough credit for the turnaround in our fortunes to go out and demand players but it doesn't happen and even when we have done they're left on the subs bench for underperforming players. Tsimikas and Robertson for example.

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25 minutes ago, skend04 said:

And I for one minute don't believe that Klopp is at odds with the scenario. He's got enough credit for the turnaround in our fortunes to go out and demand players but it doesn't happen and even when we have done they're left on the subs bench for underperforming players. Tsimikas and Robertson for example.

In which case loyalty would be his Achilles’ heel; the thing that means he falls short of the likes of Ferguson and, for all the monetary privilege, Guardiola. *If* that’s the case, I think it’s a real shame because it means he’s blown an amazing chance win a fair bit more than he has.
 

Personally, I’m not convinced he’s happy with it, and just isn’t the sort of person to play hardball with his bosses, but I might be wrong.

 

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I don't think Klopp will extend his tenure. I think he's serious about taking a break and I think he may want a fresh start in a different league afterwards. can't blame him for that.

 

The post-Klopp landscape will be interesting. With the current levels of investment in the team we'll be trying to scrap for third/fourth along with Utd, Spurs and Arsenal. Worst case scenario is that Howe keeps the Barcodes up and they start to do a City. Best case scenario is Howe fucks it up and the Saudi's go all in on Inter, while Newcastle becomes a portfolio club to buy players and loan them to Inter.

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10 minutes ago, Anubis said:

With the current levels of investment in the team we'll be trying to scrap for third/fourth along with Utd, Spurs and Arsenal.

That is very optimistic, even if Newcastle crash and burn. I’ll be thrilled if we can keep up with the likes of Aston Villa and Leicester while spending like Huddersfield.

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He are the really good players we have

 

Alisson, Kelleher*Alexander-Arnold. Van Dijk. Matip. Konate* Robertson. Tsimikas* Fabinho. Mane. Jota. Salah.* debatable depending on your take.


Squad players taking into account age, injuries, transfers and current ability

 

Gomez*. Philips. Williams.N. Thiago* Henderson* Milner. Jones. Elliot* Keita. Chamberlain.

Minamino. Origi. * Again depending on personal take. Apologies if I missed anyone.

 

We all know where we need players, 3 of them minimum. Will we get them in the next few windows, without selling Salah and any others we want to keep or be able to move the dross? Something is going to give for good or bad. Summer will be crucial and I’m not expecting much. Hope I’m proved spectacularly wrong eating a huge slice of humble pie and wiping egg off my face for days.

 

 

 

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29 minutes ago, Scooby Dudek said:

I am no longer angry just resigned to the situation that we don't buy players and top 4 with minimum outlay is the sole ambition of the owners.

They're going to get a rude awakening when Klopp fucks off then.

 

Watch us spend a fortune when we get another no mark in like Rodgers.

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2 hours ago, TheDrowningMan said:

In which case loyalty would be his Achilles’ heel; the thing that means he falls short of the likes of Ferguson and, for all the monetary privilege, Guardiola. *If* that’s the case, I think it’s a real shame because it means he’s blown an amazing chance win a fair bit more than he has.
 

Personally, I’m not convinced he’s happy with it, and just isn’t the sort of person to play hardball with his bosses, but I might be wrong.

 

Loyalty is absolutely his achilles heel but also his greatest strength.  He hasn't sold a single established first team player that didn't want to leave (bar Benteke and Sahko). Essentially once you're one of his boys you remain one of his boys forever. He done an interview with a Northern Irish BBC journalist who's name escapes me and he spelt it out then. He prides himself on the lifelong relationships he has with his boys. Bobby, Ox, Sadio, Naby, the list goes on, these guys are not being sold against their will on Jurgens watch. It just won't happen. You leave when your contract is up, if you want to leave or if you rock the boat. Other than than that the contract is sacred. 

 

Jurgen Klopp Sales At Liverpool

Transfermarkt.com

Date Player TO Fee

2016

     

July 1st

Lawrence Vigouroux

Swindon Town

£432k

July 1st 

Jordan Rossiter

Rangers

FREE

July 1st

Jerome Sinclair

Watford

FREE

July 1st

João Carlos Teixeira

FC Porto

FREE

July 13th

Sergi Canos

Norwich City

£2.7m

July 14th

Jordan Ibe

Bournemouth

£16.2m

July 15th

Martin Skrtel

Fenerbahce

£5.4m

July 24th

Kolo Toure

Celtic

FREE

July 25th

Joe Allen 

Stoke City

£13.95m

July 27th

Brad Smith

Bournemouth

£3.24m

August 20th

Christian Benteke

Crystal Palace

£28.08m

August 31st

Luis Alberto

Lazio

£3.6m

August 31st 

Mario Balotelli

OGC Nice

FREE

2017

     

January 18th

Thiago Ilori

Reading

£3.87m

July 1st

Alex Manninger

 

RETIRED

July 1st

Andre Wisdom

Derby County

£2.07m

July 18th

Lucas Leiva

Lazio

£5.13m

July 21st

Kevin Stewart

Hull City

£4.05m

August 31st

Mamadou Sakho

Crystal Palace

£25.38m

2018

     

January 8th

Philippe Coutinho

Barcelona

£121.5m

January 11th

Cameron Brannagan

Oxford United

£203k

July 1st

Emre Can

Juventus

FREE

July 1st

John Flanagan

Rangers

FREE

July 20th 

Danny Ward

Leicester City

£12.6m

August 17th

Ragnar Klavan

Cagliari

£1.37m

2019

     

January 4th

Dominic Solanke

Bournemouth

£19.08m

January 31st

Lazar Markovic

Fulham

FREE

July 1st

Danny Ings

Southampton

£22.59m

July 1st

Rafael Camacho

Sporting CP

£4.5m

July 1st

Connor Randall

 

RELEASED

July 1st

Adam Bogdan

 

RELEASED

July 9th

Alberto Moreno

Villareal

FREE

August 5th

Simon Mignolet

Club Brugge

£6.3m

August 7th

George Johnston

Feyenoord

£270k

August 21st

Daniel Sturridge

Trabzonspor

FREE

September 2nd

Ryan Kent

Rangers

£6.48m

2020

     

January 8th

Allan

Clube Atlético Mineiro

£3.15m

July 1st

Pedro Chirivella

FC Nantes

FREE

July 27th

Adam Lallana

Brighton

FREE

August 1st

Dejan Lovren

Zenit

£10.8m

August 1st

Andy Lonergan

 

RELEASED

August 28th

Ovie Ejaria

Reading

£3.51m

September 7th

Isaac Christie-Davies

Barnsley

FREE

September 19th

Ki-Jana Hoever

Wolves

£8.82m

October 2nd

Rhian Brewster

Sheffield United

£23.4m

October 14th

Nathaniel Clyne

Crystal Palace

FREE

October 16th

Herbie Kane

Barnsley

£1.26m

2021

     

July 1st

Georginio Wijnaldum

PSG

FREE

July 3rd

Kamil Grabara

FC Copenhagen

£3.15m

July 8th

Liam Millar

FC Basel

£1.35m

July 8th

Joe Hardy

Accrington

FREE

July 20th

Taiwo Awoniyi

Union Berlin

£5.85m

July 24th

Harry Wilson

Fulham

£12.6m

July 28th

Yasser Larouci

Troyes

FREE

23rd August

Xherdan Shaqiri

Olympique Lyonnais

£5.4m

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