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For the first time in years, this weekend I've actually felt depressed and helpless with regard to this stupid fucking game. Fucks sake.

I'm well beyond getting to a level like that. I'm not surprised by any of it. The witch hunt, our lack of bollocks, baffling refereeing decisions or the media wank fest over the Scum that goes on in our league. Redders thread last night summed it up perfectly.

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It's about money like the rest of this fucking world.

 

FSG are worried about sponsorship and how they think the rest of the world will see us. They won't give a fuck about whether cuntface and the media have "won" because all they're doing is protecting their investment.

 

That's what I hate most about this. Kenny and Luis have been forced into apologising for stuff they didn't need to and LFC are made to look like twats. Shanks must be turning in his grave while cuntface dances a jig.

 

Money, money, money it really is a fucking rich man's world.

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Absolutely disgusted with the club over this. We've been raped by our fiercest rivals, and now we've apologised for it. And in the process, we've let one of our own best players massively down.

It stinks and if I could stop caring about football tomorrow, I would. I have never felt let down by LFC before, and it really hurts.

Luis should leave in the summer, he has no future here. Perhaps because he has a spine?

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It reminds me of what happened to Ben Richards, aka The Butcher of Bakersfield, from Total Recall.

Set up by the media, innocent man, sent to an internment camp where they wear exploding neck braces. The only way for Suarez to clear his name is to run a gauntlet of challenges against Patrick Barclay, Martin Samuel, and Oliver Holt, before a showdown with Rupert Murdoch.

 

Stewart Downing is the bitch with three tits, and Jay Spearing is Quatro, coming out of Carras chest.

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Still appears to me that Evra tricked everyone in that handshake fiasco. I think the club, Kenny and Suarez all know that Evra withdrew his hand but they'll just look worse if they argue it, so they've been forced into apologies after reporting that Suarez confirmed to Kenny that he would shake Evra's hand.

 

Heh - either they are really smart or we are really not so smart.

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It reminds me of what happened to Ben Richards, aka The Butcher of Bakersfield, from Total Recall.

Set up by the media, innocent man, sent to an internment camp where they wear exploding neck braces. The only way for Suarez to clear his name is to run a gauntlet of challenges against Patrick Barclay, Martin Samuel, and Oliver Holt, before a showdown with Rupert Murdoch.

 

Stewart Downing is the bitch with three tits, and Jay Spearing is Quatro, coming out of Carras chest.

 

Total Recall?

 

The Running Man, Surely? Actually, hang on, it's a twisted amalgamation of the two.

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It is for situations like this, where I really think we should have made every effort to keep Broughton. He really was a great balance between being prudent, reasonable but also ruthless when he knew he was right - like we saw in the Hicks / Gillett saga.

 

I think FSG would be wise to get a top savy person in charge of our club, like Broughton, as I'm not sure Ayre has the nouse required for such a role.

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yeah - nothing boosts profits in Asia and Africa like being branded racists...

 

And nothing makes us look weaker than apologising for something when we clearly have no belief that it was actually needed. Why, when Kenny has apologised for his behaviour in an interview does it need to be accepted by Man United?

 

Kenny's Press Conferences will be mild from now on and the reporters will have no fear. Do you think Ferguson would have apologised if the roles were reversed?

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Ladyman has surely had a busy day.

Luis Suarez handshake row: seven key players | Mail Online

 

By Ian Ladyman

 

Last updated at 10:18 PM on 12th February 2012

 

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As the action unfolded at Old Trafford on Saturday, Sportsmail's Ian Ladyman kept an eye on all those involved in the fallout from Luis Suarez's refusal to shake Patrice Evra's hand...

Luis Suarez

Must have spent the last three months with his head under a rock. His failure to shake Evra’s hand was bad enough but his performance on the field was not much better.

Lashed a ball at spectators just before the interval, too. Time to learn some manners.

Bad day at the office: Luis Suarez

Patrice Evra

Looked set to offer a wary handshake to Suarez before the game and deserves praise for that.

Could have been sent off for a late lunge on his rival - had it connected - in the first half and may regret his whooping celebration at full-time.

On the whole, he emerged with credit. Just.

Phil Dowd

Probably the best performer on the pitch. Managed to keep a lid on everything with common sense and good communication.

Showed only two cards all day and managed to defuse a ticking bomb by dragging Evra away from trouble at full-time. Excellent.

Top performance: Phil Dowd calmed Patrice Evra down

Kenny Dalglish

Still doesn’t seem to understand that he is not helping. Needs to realise that stamping his feet when asked reasonable, decent questions will not sidetrack experienced interviewers.

On the field, his team looked limited until he made some decent second-half substitutions.

Geoff Shreeves

The Sky man has been doing his job long enough not to be intimidated by Dalglish’s hectoring.

His persistence under pressure when questioning the Liverpool manager ensured a dramatic day was afforded one final twist.

Petulant: Dalglish didn't take kindly to Shreeves' questions

Rio Ferdinand

Had told associates beforehand that he would shake Suarez’s hand but changed his mind on seeing what happened between the Liverpool player and Evra. Within his rights to do that.

Good tackle to deny Suarez a run on goal with the score at 0-0.

Sir Alex Ferguson

Within his rights to call Suarez a ‘disgrace’ but perhaps went too far when he suggested the Uruguayan should be kicked out of Anfield. Admitted that Evra’s post-match celebration was excessive, which it was.

In football terms, his team were unspectacular but were nevertheless deserved winners.

 

Kenny Dalglish apology was too late | Mail Online

It's just too late Kenny, you've left a stain on your club

By Ian Ladyman

 

Last updated at 10:44 PM on 12th February 2012

 

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One hundred and twenty days. That was how long it took for Kenny Dalglish and Liverpool to finally get something right.

 

That’s 120 days to work out how to do the decent thing.

 

When they came - midway through Sunday afternoon - statements from Dalglish, Luis Suarez and managing director Ian Ayre served their purpose and, for once, delivered a clear message.

 

Finally, four months after Suarez and Patrice Evra clashed in the penalty box at Anfield on October 15, Liverpool declared themselves ready to move on. Finally, there was some contrition, some responsibility. It was all long overdue.

Long time coming: Suarez and Evra clashed back in October

Forget all the other low days this club have endured since mid-autumn. Forget the days of the silly T-shirts and the rambling, bemusing statements. For none has been lower than Saturday.

 

A visit of one of England’s flagship clubs to Old Trafford remains one of the stand-out fixtures of the year. Manchester United v Liverpool on a winter’s Saturday. What is there not to like?

 

Here, though, Liverpool - clumsy, arrogant Liverpool - failed by the curled lip of their striker and by a floundering manager buried deep in denial, shoved a great spectacle into the shadows. In its place they revealed their darker side and how ugly it looked. Self-serving, out of touch, paranoid, delusional. Take your pick.

 

How important is a handshake? Suarez clearly thinks it means little. To him, dignity remains optional. Saturday at Old Trafford presented the Uruguayan and Liverpool with an opportunity. Take a deep breath, put out your hand and put the past to bed.

 

Making matters worse: Liverpool wore t-shirts in support of Suarez at Stoke

What they're saying on Twitter...

Shaking of hands before n after games shouldn’t be eradicated ...teaches our CHILDREN RESPECT to OFFICIALS and PLAYERS.

Tim Cahill, Everton midfielder

 

Good to see Suarez and LFC issue an apology...first step has been taken towards moving on from this!

Jason Roberts, Reading striker

 

Hopefully this will allow all concerned to move forward

Mark Bright

 

Well done Suarez for apologising am sorry for calling u a wasteman Now u have made Liverpool Fans defending u look like the clowns.

Emmanuel Frimpong, Arsenal

 

Liverpool Football Club have now pulled the rug from under any idiot who looked for Suarez excuse on the handshake. Well done LFC.

Stan Collymore

 

Pleased to see that Suarez has apologised, every journey needs a first step.

Ian Wright

Just do the right thing.

 

It was a goal as open as the one Suarez volleyed the ball into late in this undistinguished game. He wasn’t interested, though, and, to make matters worse, his manager didn’t - at that point - really seem to care.

 

On Sunday it emerged that Suarez had been willing to go along with Dalglish’s suggestion last week that he would shake Evra’s hand. He had been instructed to swallow his substantial pride. It seems he changed his mind, ignoring his manager and effectively calling Dalglish’s authority into question. It appears it was this, as much as anything, that prompted Suarez’s apology and Ayre’s subsequent criticism.

 

Still there was no contrition or explanation from Dalglish after the game, though. And no website statement, no Sunday afternoon apology will make us forget that.

 

Instead of addressing the issue with Sky’s impressively persistent interviewer Geoff Shreeves, Liverpool’s manager once again sought refuge in sneering, condescending aggression. It was as embarrassing as it was offensive.

 

Flashpoint: Suarez refused to shake Evra's hand on Saturday

On Sunday, Dalglish apologised, though not to Shreeves. In doing so, he appeared to suggest he wasn’t aware of Suarez’s actions when beginning his interview. That seems extraordinary. As painful as it is to acknowledge, the spirit of Dalglish runs right through the middle of this saga. It has done right from the moment he saw Sir Alex Ferguson accompany Evra to the referee’s room after the 1-1 draw on Merseyside last year.

 

Suarez is a young man of 25. A South American gun for hire already playing at his fourth professional club. He has no great understanding of the English game or all that Liverpool and United have done over the past 40-odd years to advance its cause.

Dalglish, though, has been in the vanguard of this. His goal brought England only its third European Cup in 1978. He managed Liverpool to a League and FA Cup Double less than 10 years later. He dragged the club through the horrors of Hillsborough.

 

So what has happened since? How has it taken him so long to understand the damage the past four months have done to his club and its reputation?

Away from the field, Dalglish remains desperately out of his depth.

Too late: Dalglish finally apologised on Sunday

Foolishly, Liverpool have allowed him to drive their defence - if it can be called that - of Suarez and he has let them down. Dalglish admitted his conduct on Saturday was not befitting of a Liverpool manager. The point is, though, that it hasn’t been so for quite some time and nobody inside Anfield has been brave enough to tell him.

 

On Saturday, Liverpool owner John W Henry seemed more preoccupied with lunch than soccer. ‘At Boston Bagel Cafe in Ft. Lauderdale’ he tweeted. ‘Great sandwiches.’

 

Henry and chairman Tom Werner, his fellow American, rarely come to Anfield. On Sunday, the Liverpool FC section of the NESN (New England Sports Network) website part-owned by Henry claimed that Suarez had shown ‘strength of character’ to ‘score in the face of adversity’. There was no mention of what had preceded the match.

Elsewhere, though, there are signs that the stench of the Suarez-Evra issue is finally beginning to drift across the Atlantic. Sunday’s edition of the New York Times carried an article under the headline, ‘Another Ugly Incident Mars Liverpool’s Good Name’.

 

The editorial ended by posing the question: ‘Is it time for Henry and Werner to state the direction the club will take on this issue?’

 

Anyone who has watched this saga unfold will know the answer, of course. Who knows how much input Henry and Werner had in the statements. It is certainly interesting that they didn’t come until America - five hours behind - had ‘woken up’.

 

What is indisputable, though, is that Sunday’s movement came far too late.

 

To repeat, Liverpool have had 120 days to educate Suarez, 120 days to drag Dalglish into line. In that time, the club’s reputation has been allowed to nosedive.

 

On Saturday night, Match of the Day showed replays of the Suarez-Evra ‘handshake’ three times once their main highlights package of the action was over. They never once referred back to the goals.

 

Liverpool may ask themselves why that was.

 

 

Read more: Kenny Dalglish apology was too late | Mail Online

 

Btw, the tweet by Henry he mentions came on 10th February.

 

Luis Suarez and Kenny Dalglish apologise over Patrice Evra | Mail Online

You shamed us! Suarez on shaky ground after betraying Liverpool in Evra handshake snub

By Dominic King and Ian Ladyman

 

Last updated at 10:32 PM on 12th February 2012

 

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Luis Suarez's Liverpool future has been plunged into doubt after he was accused by Anfield officials of deceiving them over his intentions to shake hands with Patrice Evra.

The controversial striker was hauled over the coals by managing director Ian Ayre and manager Kenny Dalglish on Sunday after he pointedly snubbed Manchester United defender Evra in the pre-match ceremony at Old Trafford.

 

Suarez was forced to issue a grovelling apology. Dalglish also expressed his regret for the confrontational interview he gave to Sky Sports after United’s 2-1 win on Saturday. United issued a statement accepting the gestures.

Flashpoint: Luis Suarez refuses to shake the hand of Patrice Evra

Having assured Dalglish and director of football Damien Comolli last Wednesday that he would shake Evra’s hand, Suarez dismayed Liverpool’s hierarchy when he ignored the Frenchman, whom he was found guilty of racially abusing last October.

Ayre said: ‘We are extremely disappointed Luis Suarez did not shake hands with Patrice Evra. He was wrong to mislead us and wrong not to offer his hand.

‘He has not only let himself down, but also Kenny Dalglish, his team-mates and the club. It has been made absolutely clear that his behaviour was not acceptable.’

Joy unconfined: Evra celebrated wildly in front of Suarez at the final whistle

Suarez, 25, said: ‘I realise I got things wrong. I’ve not only let the manager down, but also the club and what it stands for. I should have shaken Patrice Evra’s hand and I want to apologise for my actions.’

Dalglish has been steadfastly supportive of Suarez ever since the initial allegation of racism was made by Evra on October 15 but he did not attempt to defend the former Ajax striker. Sir Alex Ferguson described him as a ‘disgrace’ and said he ‘should never play for Liverpool again’.

Dalglish said: ‘I was shocked to hear the player had not shaken hands having been told earlier in the week that he would do. All of us have a responsibility to represent this club in a fit and proper manner and that applies equally to me. I did not conduct myself in a way befitting a Liverpool manager during that interview. I’d like to apologise for that.’

Conduct: Kenny Dalglish apologised for his controversial post-match comments

PFA chief Gordon Taylor revealed that his attempts to mediate in the matter had been rebuffed by Liverpool and encouraged the FA to step in.

Taylor said: ‘The FA must get around the table with the clubs because we are getting into a state of anarchy. If he [suarez] is going to ignore a decision, he needs to be disciplined or we are going to have the tail wagging the dog.

‘Kenny has been supportive of Suarez but to some extent that has encouraged what has happened this weekend.’

 

 

Read more: Luis Suarez and Kenny Dalglish apologise over Patrice Evra | Mail Online

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Looking at most of the headlines on the back pages of tomorrow's papers, its clear that the club have thrown Suarez under the bus and have tried to make themselves look like victims at the expense of Suarez.

 

This is proof that FSG haven't a clue how to run a football club and should start getting experts into advise them, and by experts I don't mean Comolli.

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anyone got a times subscription, apparently he is critical of evra and ferguson....wow, get that, someone in the media having a go at a lad for starting a half-time ruck and inciting the crowd and a manager commenting int he strongest possible language publically on other teams players -you'd think more would have picked up on it but no they all seem to be writing reams and reams of rubbish about a handshake and extrapolating that the world may will end because it didn't happen, even cameron is sticking his fat populist nose is, jesus christ, what have sky done to this game?

 

oh and our owners and md have sold us out to dry and sucked all these parasites off...but anyway on to barrett's piece, anyone got it, i quite fancy reading something that doesn't make my eyes bleed for a change

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