Energy Prices

[Gnasher]

2 hours ago, clangers said:

He's on his annual holiday apparently, it seems with most of the Labour front bench.

Yep and no one in the Labour Party can come out fighting to denounce these energy/cost of living rises till Starmer and Rachel Reeves say so.. 

 

Fucking grim.

 

At the moment... the official Labour line is scrap VAT and insulate lofts.. Very similar to Rishi Sunak but without the handouts. It'll do little for the poorest in society and they know it.

 

As the country hits a cost of living crisis our official opposition hides behind a sunlounger and an umbrella whilst sipping expensive cocktails whilst saying fuck all. Sorry but that's the truth, the English Labour Party are nothing more than a fucking joke.

 

 

[Captain Howdy]

25 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Yep and no one in the Labour Party can come out fighting to denounce these energy/cost of living rises till Starmer and Rachel Reeves say so.. 

 

Fucking grim.

 

At the moment... the official Labour line is scrap VAT and insulate lofts.. Very similar to Rishi Sunak but without the handouts. It'll do little for the poorest in society and they know it.

 

As the country hits a cost of living crisis our official opposition hides behind a sunlounger and an umbrella whilst sipping expensive cocktails whilst saying fuck all. Sorry but that's the truth, the English Labour Party are nothing more than a fucking joke.

 

 

They’ve been a joke for 12 years. Starmer is merely the latest in a triumvirate of clown shoes leaders. Milliband- Corbyn- Starmer. I mean fucking hell 

[Mook]

This sham of a government are an open goal for a semi competent opposition too.

 

Get a leader in with a pair of bollocks, get the party behind him & they would wipe the floor with this shower of shite.

 

Depressing.

[Rushies tash]

3 minutes ago, Mook said:

This sham of a government are an open goal for a semi competent opposition too.

 

Get a leader in with a pair of bollocks, get the party behind him & they would wipe the floor with this shower of shite.

 

Depressing.

If Labour elected a leader that rocked the boat and actually looked like they'd change things, they'd get the same treatment Corbyn got. I've made my peace with the fact that I live in a corporate dictatorship, with all major parties seeming to have pre-approved leaders who will toe the liberal line.

[Gnasher]

It's got to be Burnham, surely.

[Mook]

16 minutes ago, Rushies tash said:

If Labour elected a leader that rocked the boat and actually looked like they'd change things, they'd get the same treatment Corbyn got. I've made my peace with the fact that I live in a corporate dictatorship, with all major parties seeming to have pre-approved leaders who will toe the liberal line.

Aye, I agree although Corbyn had no bollocks (and I'm a big fan of his politics).

 

Those TV debates he had a great chance to ragdoll johnson all over the shop on a number of issues and blew it IMO. I mean the media & the cunts in the PLP did for him but he was far too timid.

[Rushies tash]

12 minutes ago, Mook said:

Aye, I agree although Corbyn had no bollocks (and I'm a big fan of his politics).

 

Those TV debates he had a great chance to ragdoll johnson all over the shop on a number of issues and blew it IMO. I mean the media & the cunts in the PLP did for him but he was far too timid.

Yep. A half competent and mildly passionate left wing politician would have this shower of pricks on toast. Even with the limited TV airtime they've had, Mick Lynch and Eddie Dempsey have arguably struck a chord with more people than the current Labour leadership have over the past three years. That's what makes me believe there's more to Starmer's silence than just leaving the Tories to hang themselves.

[Elite]

Starmer isn't just some run of the mill career politician, he's a top-tier lawyer. He's definitely being held back for whatever reason as he has the credentials to absolute annihilate these corrupt Tory cunts.

[sir roger]

13 minutes ago, Elite said:

Starmer isn't just some run of the mill career politician, he's a top-tier lawyer. 

That is why I voted for him in the leadership election even though he was a chicken-coup guy, but unless they have replaced him with an alien looky-likey I can't understand how he ever was top dog. He is timid, shifty and defensive whenever he is interviewed, seemingly unable to think on his feet and all this allied to a boring nasal voice. If I was ever up in court I would be thrilled to see this cunt prosecuting.

[Elite]

Just now, sir roger said:

That is why I voted for him in the leadership election even though he was a chicken-coup guy, but unless they have replaced him with an alien looky-likey I can't understand how he ever was top dog. He is timid, shifty and defensive whenever he is interviewed, seemingly unable to think on his feet and all this allied to a boring nasal voice. If I was ever up in court I would be thrilled to see this cunt prosecuting.

Yeah it's very bizarre.

 

It's like Billy The Kid fighting with spud guns.

[No2]

I still think its clever to keep out of it and let them eat themselves. Its a tough watch and must be frustrating as fuck but its still the best tactic. Tory words and actions are better for Labour than Labour words and pointless actions. 

[Pete]

Fucking hate this shit hole of a country. 

 

[Moo]

11 hours ago, sir roger said:

That is why I voted for him in the leadership election even though he was a chicken-coup guy, but unless they have replaced him with an alien looky-likey I can't understand how he ever was top dog. He is timid, shifty and defensive whenever he is interviewed, seemingly unable to think on his feet and all this allied to a boring nasal voice. If I was ever up in court I would be thrilled to see this cunt prosecuting.

Politics is a very different world. Said it from the start he was a poor speaker in a political environment so totally unsuited, and I was laughed at because of his previous job qualifications.

But, he's in place now. Far too far into his leadership and too close to a GE to make a change.  Just got to get behind him and keep everything crossed that he can squeeze into Downing Street then suddenly shows why the membership were right to put their faith in him. 

[Anubis]

Labour’s first intervention is somewhat underwhelming. 

[Gnasher]

Drop falls into ocean...

 

 

 

Rachel fucking Reeves.

 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

[dockers_strike]

Providers such as British Gas are acting “irresponsibly”  and trying to “rip off” customers by persuading them to sign up to year-long fixed-priced deals that charge thousands more than the price cap, campaigners have said.

New estimates showing dramatic increases in future caps have sparked renewed interest in deals that lock customers in for one or two years at a fixed tariff.

However, households have been quoted prices as high as £16,000 while others faced yearly bills that cost more than their mortgage. This is despite estimates showing the cap will hit £3,600 in October and £4,400 in January.

No deals being sold by energy firms are cheaper than the current £1,900 cap or the estimated cap for October, with the average fixed tariff costing £4,206 per year, according to Uswitch, a comparison website.

Customers that have inquired about locking in have received personalised quotes well in excess of the price cap and what they pay currently. Providers have also been accused of using pressure selling language when sending out quotes, as homeowners panic over rising bills.

Conservative peer and consumer campaigner, Baroness Ros Altmann, said families were in danger of being “ripped off” by energy firms who were “enticing them into deals they can’t get out of”.

She added: “The market is broken. As things stand today these rates are excessive and there’s a danger of customers being ripped off, especially if prices in the free market fall in the coming year, which is entirely possible.

“There are big penalties if you try to leave these deals before the end of the fix. If there were a fair get-out clause it would be fine, but at the moment customers are being asked to pay well over average prices, which themselves has soared.”

Martyn James, of complaints tool Resolver, said it was “extremely irresponsible” for energy firms to capitalise on people’s fear of not being able to pay, by locking them into excessive or inappropriate tariffs.

He added: “Anyone who finds they’ve signed up to such an agreement or finds they were panicked into taking one out should be able to make a formal complaint.”

Mr James urged energy regulator Ofgem to step in and force companies to provide a “warning sheet” informing customers of the risks of locking into deals and predictions for the year ahead.

Justina Miltienyte, of Uswitch, urged households to check on all the details before signing up to a fixed deal. “It’s crucial that bill payers don’t feel pressured into taking out an expensive fixed tariff if they will struggle to manage the cost,” she said.

‘It was the dumbest offer in the world’

Akshay Shah, from Barnet, London, was quoted more than £16,000 by British Gas for a year’s energy, which he described as “the dumbest offer in the world”.

Mr Shah’s costs on his variable rate are nearly half this amount at £8,400. He said the letter from British Gas used emotive language and cited “uncertainty in the energy market” statements, such as “fixing now means you won’t have to worry about price rises in the months ahead”.

The letter said: “We want to make sure you know about all the tariff options available to you – and why now could be a good time to switch to a fixed tariff.”

Mr Shah said the house, built in the 1970s, did use a lot of energy but the quote was not justifiable.

British Gas declined to comment.

‘Signing up would mean my bills are more than my mortgage’

Alison Woods, 49, said her provider M&S Energy quoted her a monthly estimate of £712 for a fixed-rate deal – totalling more than £8,500 over a year, more than double the variable rate.

“We’re in a four-bed detached, so I think what we are paying is less than a lot of folk,” Ms Woods said. “But I just can’t imagine anyone paying over £700 a month – our mortgage is half that.”

A spokesman for Octopus Energy, which provides for M&S customers, said fixed rates could be attractive to households looking for security from the volatility of energy prices throughout the year, but it is up to customers to decide what is right for them.

 

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/consumer-affairs/british-gas-offered-new-deal-cost-16000/

[Gnasher]

52 minutes ago, Nelly-Matip said:

Rachel Reeves big plan. Pay energy firms for ripping off customers.

 

 

 

 

[Gnasher]

 

 

Labour have so far offered less help than the Tories . 

 

[A Red]

The answer is staring people in their faces. For the winter months stay in Barbados.

[Mudface]

9 minutes ago, A Red said:

The answer is staring people in their faces. For the winter months stay in Barbados.

At a school or uni chum's gaff, of course.

[YorkshireRed]

26 minutes ago, A Red said:

The answer is staring people in their faces. For the winter months stay in Barbados.

It’s blinking obvious now I see it written down. Sometimes we can’t see the wood for the trees. 

[clangers]

3 minutes ago, YorkshireRed said:

It’s blinking obvious now I see it written down. Sometimes we can’t see the wood for the trees. 

It really is isn't it. Why don't we all just move to our 2nd homes located in warmer climates this winter?

[A Red]

6 minutes ago, YorkshireRed said:

It’s blinking obvious now I see it written down. Sometimes we can’t see the wood for the trees. 

That's what I'm here for. To provide clarity.

[Anubis]

5 minutes ago, A Red said:

That's what I'm here for. To provide clarity.

And pay for our tickets and accommodation.