General Election 2019

[rubble-rouser]

2 minutes ago, moof said:

He said they were a thousand votes off second, not first, and that they’d finish second this time. 

No, they have been consistently second in this seat for years. 

 

Apologies - just checked - you're right Moof. Very surprised at that. 

 

 

[moof]

Just now, rubble-rouser said:

No, they have been consistently second in this seat for years. 

Ok, stronts stands mistaken, in that case

[rubble-rouser]

2 minutes ago, moof said:

Ok, stronts stands mistaken, in that case

Edit - I'm surprised at that.

 

 

[Bjornebye]

 

 

 

 

[TheHowieLama]

Nothing warms the cockles like a nice comfortable second.

[moof]

1 minute ago, rubble-rouser said:

No, they have been consistently second in this seat for years. 

 

Apologies - just checked - you're right Moof. Very surprised at that. 

 

 

Apologies all round, stronts was correct. 
 

I think in that scenario I would just vote with my heart, to be perfectly honest

[moof]

2 minutes ago, rubble-rouser said:

Edit - I'm surprised at that.

 

 

Must’ve been caught out by one of those dodgy Lib Dem polls mate!

[rubble-rouser]

5 minutes ago, moof said:

Must’ve been caught out by one of those dodgy Lib Dem polls mate!

No, just my own ignorance actually.

 

I just think there is a miniscule chance of a Lib-dem win, but no chance of the types round where I live (with the honourable exception of Colm) voting Labour. 

 

I used to live in safe Labour territory then I was in a Lib-Dem/Tory marginal for a few years so tactical voting has been a natural strategy.  

[moof]

1 minute ago, rubble-rouser said:

No, just my own ignorance actually.

 

I just think there is a miniscule chance of a Lib-dem win, but no chance of the types round where I live (with the honourable exception of Colm) voting Labour. 

 

I used to live in safe Labour territory then I was in a Lib-Dem/Tory marginal for a few years so tactical voting has been a natural strategy.  

Was just kidding mate. Yeah I understand that. Have never had to weigh my vote like that, thankfully, but it’s a legitimate strategy in this voting system 

[rubble-rouser]

1 minute ago, moof said:

Was just kidding mate. Yeah I understand that. Have never had to weigh my vote like that, thankfully, but it’s a legitimate strategy in this voting system 

If only we had PR it would be a different story. I still can't believe the Lib Dems didn't push harder for that instead of the shitty second-pref model that was put to the referendum. 

[Dougie Do'ins]

BBC News - General election 2019: Philip Hammond to stand down as MP

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/50304679

[Strontium]

Dear Mr Farage, please don't stand against me

 

 

[Dr Arthur De Sabre]

2 hours ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Norway is in the single market, but not in the customs union, which as far as I can gather is the opposite of any hypothetical Corbyn deal.

It’s a credible deal, you stated none were available.

[Dougie Do'ins]

Not sure this should go in here but couldn't be arsed looking for somewhere more suitable. 

 

BBC News - Ross England row: Alun Cairns told about rape trial 'sabotage' candidate

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-50302172

[Strontium]

3 minutes ago, arthur friedenreich said:

It’s a credible deal, you stated none were available.

 

Sorry, I thought we were talking about realistic deals rather than ones Corbyn had already ruled out.

 

Besides, the Norwegians themselves will tell you what difficulties they have being outside the CU.

[Bjornebye]

22 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

Dear Mr Farage, please don't stand against me

 

 

Get Mike Hancock back the dirty bastard. 

[TheHowieLama]

10 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Besides, the Norwegians themselves will tell you what difficulties they have being outside the CU.

Fuck off Code

[Rico1304]

@A Red

 

 

[ZonkoVille77]

What I've taken from that is 65% of those questioned are thick cunts.

[moof]

It’s objectively crystal clear. Anyone who thinks otherwise is deliberately obfuscating or very stupid 

[A Red]

2 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

@A Red

 

 

The thing is, its not whether you understand the policy, I think I do and i'm obviously a thick cunt, its how simple and clear the message is.

 

Tory - Leave

Lib Dem - Stay

 

It tells you what the parties stance is, no ifs or buts really.

 

Labour - A referendum

 

Yes that is a simple and easy thing to understand but it doesnt tell the voter what the party or leader wants. You have to wait until a deal has been negotiated before they will tell you, then you find out whether you backed the right horse. That is why Labour, if they want to win, need to come out on one side of the other. This is before you go to the possibility of a government negotiating for something it doesnt want or will back.

[Rico1304]

1 minute ago, A Red said:

The thing is, its not whether you understand the policy, I think I do and i'm obviously a thick cunt, its how simple and clear the message is.

 

Tory - Leave

Lib Dem - Stay

 

It tells you what the parties stance is, no ifs or buts really.

 

Labour - A referendum

 

Yes that is a simple and easy thing to understand but it doesnt tell the voter what the party or leader wants. You have to wait until a deal has been negotiated before they will tell you, then you find out whether you backed the right horse. That is why Labour, if they want to win, need to come out on one side of the other. This is before you go to the possibility of a government negotiating for something it doesnt want or will back.

I’m agreeing with you.  Telling people it’s simple and they are thick for not understanding it doesn’t seem to be working.  

[A Red]

5 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

I’m agreeing with you.  Telling people it’s simple and they are thick for not understanding it doesn’t seem to be working.  

Yeah I know.

[Strontium]

My impression from reading what people have said is that they don't know why you would go to the trouble of spending six months negotiating a deal just to then campaign to reject it. I mean, it's clear as far as it goes, but it's the actual "why bother" part which they have a hard time understanding.

[Numero Veinticinco]

16 minutes ago, moof said:

It’s objectively crystal clear. Anyone who thinks otherwise is deliberately obfuscating or very stupid 

That might well be true, but there's a big issue if that's what they perceive.