Skrtel rejects 'unacceptable' contract. So what now?

[RoboRiise]

Have to say I'd be pissed off if I were a player that hardly ever misses any playing time and who had on more than one occasion had staples put in my head before going back out there, and they offered me some shitty pay as you play deal like I was some sort of Sturridge/Sakho/Agger walking sicknote.

 

Isn't he also our longest-serving player now Gerrard has gone?  Not an especially respectful way to treat him.

 

Disrespectful of Skrtel towards the club to use the media as a device to leverage more money from the club.

 

See above.  As for some other posters who commented that if he plays the games he will get all of his pay, yeah that's right; however looking at the way the manager fucked around with the side last year I can't blame him for not being happy, he could find himself benched for three months whilst he experiments with Markovic and Ibe as twin sweepers or some other ludicrous shit.

[Jairzinho]

Isn't he also our longest-serving player now Gerrard has gone?  Not an especially respectful way to treat him.

 

Signed him Jan 08. Signed Lucas Summer 07.

[Cardie]

Not an especially respectful way to treat him.

Giving him a pay rise?

 

[s(k)aturation]

Because his is the contract being negotiated at the moment. Coutinho may very well have a similar clause 

 

It wouldn't surprise me if FSG are finding yet another way of sharpening up their outstanding profitability model.

[magicrat]

He should stay if for no other reason we are incapable of signing anyone better and those we have with the possible exception of Sakho when fit are fucking garbage.

[Cardie]

It wouldn't surprise me if FSG are finding yet another way of sharpening up their outstanding profitability model.

I'm with you, I much preferred it when we paid players massive guaranteed contracts worth far more than the output they gave the club.

 

But the good ol' days are gone.

 

 

[RedKnight]

You should know Jules, as a fan of the Red Sox, I hold you partially responsible for all this. 

 

I accept that. I just hope all those losers who bought Red Sox hats when FSG bought the club feel like dickheads now.

[s(k)aturation]

I'm with you, I much preferred it when we paid players massive guaranteed contracts worth far more than the output they gave the club.

 

But the good ol' days are gone.

 

Indeed. The likes of Jovanovic, Cole, Aquilani and Skrtel are all peas in a pod.

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

Isn't he also our longest-serving player now Gerrard has gone?  Not an especially respectful way to treat him.

What's disrespectful about negotiating a contract? If we know we're getting players in ahead of him, and that he'll just be a very high paid player sat on the bench. The days where we hand out massive contracts to over 30s should be gone, and if they don't like it then that's fine. I honestly don't see what the issue is, or where the disrespect is, in evaluating the worth of a player to the club and offering what you think he's worth. I do see how it's disrespectful to air the dirty laundry in public the way he has, and if it was Ayre or the manager doing it, I suspect they'd be hammered for it.

[Dr. J]

So who's responsible for this - Rodgers, Ayre, the owners? Have to believe if Rodgers really wanted him he'd have received better.

[magicrat]

It wouldn't surprise me if FSG are finding yet another way of sharpening up their outstanding profitability model.

This is exactly what it amounts to. Return on capital employed.  They will expect minimum 10% . No CL money means cut your overheads.  These cunts are just venture capitalists with the words "Sports" in their name to give a thin veneer of respectability. I just wish they would get to the end game and flip us to someone that actually gives a fuck about what we do on the pitch  

[JustTosh]

I despair at our club sometimes.

 

The one quality, consistent and fit CB we have and they piss him off with a stupid offer.

Others will be all over him now and it will end up costing us more to keep hold of him than he probably would have accepted at the outset. They really are clueless buffoons in charge .

On the wider issue I don't see any hope for us unless we get lucky with better owners, Moores is a fucking cunt for selling us out. 

This is the one thing we’re really good at. Pissing off our best players. Noone comes even close. We’re the best!

 

Wanting Gareth Barry to replace Alonso.  Barry for Alonso? Takes a genious to figure that one out. Surprisingly, however, Alonso wasn’t flattered being labeled almost as good as the great Barry and looked elsewhere for a job. We got rid – success!

 

Keeping Sami, but not listing him in the CL-squad. Take your tired legs and bugger off grandpa! We got rid – success!

 

Some daft fans, like me, see (LOL) Martin as our only defender of any consistent quality, our best defender by a good mile. We’ve got a lot to learn. Success for the club once again? Hell yeah it might work getting rid of Skrtel.

[Grinch]

Easily the clubs best centre back and Rodgers couldn't find a better one with two £20m buys, so I hope he stays

[RoboRiise]

Signed him Jan 08. Signed Lucas Summer 07.

 

Oh well I was close.  Lucas is getting sold anyway though probably.

[s(k)aturation]

This is exactly what it amounts to. Return on capital employed.  They will expect minimum 10% . No CL money means cut your overheads.  These cunts are just venture capitalists with the words "Sports" in their name to give a thin veneer of respectability. I just wish they would get to the end game and flip us to someone that actually gives a fuck about what we do on the pitch  

 

Don't forget, mate, in a business employees are in the liabilities, not the assets, column.

[RoboRiise]

What's disrespectful about negotiating a contract? If we know we're getting players in ahead of him, and that he'll just be a very high paid player sat on the bench. The days where we hand out massive contracts to over 30s should be gone, and if they don't like it then that's fine. I honestly don't see what the issue is, or where the disrespect is, in evaluating the worth of a player to the club and offering what you think he's worth. I do see how it's disrespectful to air the dirty laundry in public the way he has, and if it was Ayre or the manager doing it, I suspect they'd be hammered for it.

 

No worries mate, pay as you play deals all round then.

 

It seems fairly obvious that it's not in fact the usual thing for us to do when offering a contract to someone Skrtel's age which is exactly why he's kicked off about it  If you think it should be, fine.  I disagree in his case. Wonder why we just decided to start doing it now by offering one to one of the least injury-prone players we've had in recent years.

 

Was Gerrard on a pay as you play deal?  Is Sturridge on one?

[Jairzinho]

Oh well I was close.  Lucas is getting sold anyway though probably.

 

Yeah, both seem to be. We're getting close to every single player at the club being signed by this manager with Jones, Gerrard, and Johnson also leaving. Wouldn't be surprised to see Coates, Sterling and Enrique leave too.

[ZonkoVille77]

I heard his staples are made of unicorn bone and the club are trying to get their money back on the staples outlay.

 

Skrtel is not the best CB in the PL but he's better than Toure and that useless cunt Lovren so he has to stay.

[magicrat]

Don't forget, mate, in a business employees are in the liabilities, not the assets, column.

Fixed assets . well not in Balotelli's case !

[Bobby Hundreds]

It's not like an industrial estate and workers have to just roll with the punches for fear of losing their job because they'd be fucked without it. He can accept, fight for more or leave the problem is the club trying to be super savers could make it a very unattractive place for a footballer to want to play at. We can't dictate to the market. Are we going to end up as a place for kids to do their work experience and older players who are now rich enough they want some playing time before they retire after sitting on a bench for 5 years.

[KevieG]

Was Milner offered pay as you play on his contract? 

 

He is only 1 year younger.

[s(k)aturation]

Fixed assets . well not in Balotelli's case !

 

I never let accounting accuracy get in the way of a convenient argument.

[Section_31]

So who's responsible for this - Rodgers, Ayre, the owners? Have to believe if Rodgers really wanted him he'd have received better.

 

Not having a dig here, genuinely, but I suspect Rodgers doesn't know much about defenders. 

[an tha]

We are gonna line up on the opening day of the season with Kolo playing - aren't we...

[Cardie]

It's not like an industrial estate and workers have to just roll with the punches for fear of losing their job because they'd be fucked without it. He can accept, fight for more or leave the problem is the club trying to be super savers could make it a very unattractive place for a footballer to want to play at. We can't dictate to the market. Are we going to end up as a place for kids to do their work experience and older players who are now rich enough they want some playing time before they retire after sitting on a bench for 5 years.

He's getting a pay rise, how are they trying to be super savers?