TLW History Thread

[Harry's Lad]

1 hour ago, VladimirIlyich said:

You can imagine the anger of the French Resistance though and despite it being morally wrong unless you were watching the Nazis murder men woman and children for nothing much at all it's hard to condemn 

Absolutely. Dreadful times.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Grim.

[Arniepie]

4 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Grim.

for king and country eh?

[Harry's Lad]

3 hours ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Grim.

Fucking disgusting.

[polymerpunkah]

“Theirs not to make reply / Theirs not to reason why / Theirs but to do and die.”

[Kepler-186]

Excerpts from Charley’s War, and clipping about The Monocled Mutineer. Surprisingly never shown again. Can’t for the life of me think why. 
 

 

[Arniepie]

there was a thread on twitter asking what politician you would "go over the top with"

its insane that we still have that cannon fodder mentality in this country.

[Kevin D]

 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

I'd recommend this walking tour if you're in town on Saturday: the story of the 1919 race riots seems depressingly familiar in a lot of ways.

https://writingonthewall.org.uk/myevents/bhm23-great-war-to-race-riots-walking-tour/ 

[Harry's Lad]

BBC News - Phyllis Latour: The secret life of a WW2 heroine revealed
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67100792

[Kevin D]

 

[VladimirIlyich]

An interesting watch. A bit long but quite interesting.

[Kevin D]

 

[Kepler-186]

 

https://libcom.org/article/british-perfidy-greece-story-worth-remembering-ed-vulliamy-and-helena-smith

[AngryOfTuebrook]

On 03/12/2023 at 18:49, Kepler-186 said:

 

https://libcom.org/article/british-perfidy-greece-story-worth-remembering-ed-vulliamy-and-helena-smith

Incredible read, that.  I didn't know anything about it.

 

"Greatest Ever Briton", eh.

[Kepler-186]

2 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Incredible read, that.  I didn't know anything about it.

 

"Greatest Ever Briton", eh.

I didn’t realise the size of subsequent civil war in Greece. 

[Strontium]

Churchill and Britain played the long game effectively in Greece, it was why it was the solitary eastern European country that did not go from the frying pan of Nazi subjugation into the fire of Soviet subjugation. Realpolitik.

[Arniepie]

10 minutes ago, Strontium said:

Churchill and Britain played the long game effectively in Greece, it was why it was the solitary eastern European country that did not go from the frying pan of Nazi subjugation into the fire of Soviet subjugation. Realpolitik.

im not sure how siding with nazis, fits in with out churchill worship,in this country.

a bit like our flirtation with fascism in the 30's,quietly brushed under the carpet. 

[Kevin D]

 

[VladimirIlyich]

On 05/12/2023 at 14:53, Strontium said:

Churchill and Britain played the long game effectively in Greece, it was why it was the solitary eastern European country that did not go from the frying pan of Nazi subjugation into the fire of Soviet subjugation. Realpolitik.

So siding with Adolf instead of Stalin. I think it is another example of where our ruling classes' loyalty really lies. Realpolitik would be preventing innocent people being slaughtered.

[Strontium]

28 minutes ago, VladimirIlyich said:

So siding with Adolf instead of Stalin. I think it is another example of where our ruling classes' loyalty really lies. Realpolitik would be preventing innocent people being slaughtered.

 

The writing was on the wall for the Nazis by December 1944, the focus was therefore very much on what the post-war landscape would look like, which in practice meant saving as much of Europe as possible from life under the yoke of communism.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

On 05/12/2023 at 14:53, Strontium said:

Churchill and Britain played the long game effectively in Greece, it was why it was the solitary eastern European country that did not go from the frying pan of Nazi subjugation into the fire of Soviet subjugation. Realpolitik.

That article makes clear that Greece was never going to become part of the Soviet bloc, as Churchill knew.

[Kevin D]

 

[Lee909]

9 minutes ago, Kevin D said:

 

 

Alot of shit talking for a city that wasn't relevant anymore. The Macedonians didn't even bother fighting them at the time as it was pointless. The Macedon B team fought them a few years later while Alexander was busy busting heads in Persia his regent Antipater slaughtered them on the battlefield 

[polymerpunkah]

But the Spartans got "300" and Al got this guy: