Next Liverpool Manager

[kacangpool]

whore's chest :p

[Jim MM]

Edit. Double post

[gkmacca]

So apparently Benitez went after asking for guarantees about transfer money, and Hodgson will come if he gets guarantees about transfer money.

[Lee909]

You know how it will work

Roy demands 30ml,Yanks agree,Yanks sell torres/masch/gerrard and give him 30ml to spend pocket the rest

[Il Fenomeno]

So apparently Benitez went after asking for guarantees about transfer money, and Hodgson will come if he gets guarantees about transfer money.

 

Nah, Roy won't want as much. He'll have to buy has beens and try resurrect their careers anyway, no way will we get any established players come here. The less cost the better for the Yanks, it's the reason we're getting Hodgson IMO.

[Gary Mac Legend]

And now we can conclude why it's taken so long for Hodgson to be confirmed. And why we forlornly approached Rijkaard and Deschamps

 

Roy: So what kind of money will I be working with?

 

Christian: Hard to say really, depends on who moves on

 

Roy: But what do I have to start with?

 

Christian: Nothing

 

Roy: Well I need a reasonable transfer budget to begin with, surely that's a formality at a club like Liverpool?

 

Christian: Well.......about that, just sign on the dotted line and we'll tell you how much money we have

 

Roy: I need some money to rebuild the team

 

Christian: Okay, give me a couple of weeks, I'll sell of Mascherano, Benayoun and a few more, and give you say £10-15 million???

 

Roy: I'll get back to you on that

[BCM]

Oohhh Woy look at that juicy England job Woy......... Ooohh look at it Woy....... Forget about that Liverpool circus Woy................... Oooohh Woy's England.....Oooohhh

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here's hoping

[ali]

MARTIN SAMUEL: Dalglish could be a pain Roy Hodgson can do without at Liverpool

 

Last updated at 12:09 AM on 28th June 2010

 

There are some who cannot believe Roy Hodgson is not already in place as Liverpool manager. They think a man who as good as hit the glass ceiling at Fulham when reaching the Europa League final should have jumped at the opportunity to join one of the biggest clubs in the world.

 

Eyebrows rose further when Hodgson chose to honour his media duties with the BBC in South Africa, instead of camping on the doorstep of Christian Purslow, Liverpool's managing director, with his pen out ready to sign.

 

This has been taken as a bit of an insult. It has certainly not added to Hodgson's popularity on Merseyside, and he already needs all the friends he can get. Hodgson's derogators are mistaken, though. For far from being his dream ticket, Liverpool could turn out to be his impossible job.

 

Indeed, the only way he can make it work is if he stays strong now, lays down some guidelines and plays a little hard to get. He already risks walking in the front door as club legend Kenny Dalglish exits through the back, making him the home wrecker in the eyes of most Liverpool fans.

 

Hodgson will need a stunning first season to overcome that stigma as it is. The moment Dalglish asked to be a candidate, rather than a member of the steering committee that would appoint the next Liverpool manager, the currency of the post was devalued.

 

What should have been the most sought-after position of the summer - for who would not initially have fancied improving on last season's position of seventh - became a poison pill.

 

Dalglish may have been acting with the best intentions - if he thinks he is a better candidate than those he is assessing, why shouldn't he put his name forward? - but the way he did it placed the club in an impossible position and he should have realised that, too.

 

Maybe he understood but didn't care. Maybe he thought if the news leaked out that he was interested, the groundswell of local support would leave the board no choice but to appoint him. Only Dalglish will know at which point, if any, sincerity and the works of Machiavelli overlapped, but the effect has been to make the Liverpool job a more awkward proposition for every manager, bar him.

 

Could Dalglish do the job? Yes. He would command instant respect in the dressing room, and adoration from the stands. He is still involved in the game as a club ambassador and head of the Kirkby Academy, and was said to have held very firm opinions on where the fault lay during Rafael Benitez's final season.

 

He would not be entering from the periphery as Kevin Keegan did when he misguidedly returned to Newcastle United. And his record is magnificent. He won the league three times with Liverpool, and once with Blackburn Rovers, an achievement that grows greater with each year. Neither club have fared as well since his departure.

 

Liverpool have difficult times ahead. Significant players could leave this summer and the resources are not there to replace them, or to carry out the rebuilding process that is vital. It is going to require a great deal of patience from the supporters and no manager is better equipped to extract that loyalty and understanding than Dalglish.

 

Overlooked, however, he could be the worst enemy the new manager will have. This does not even have to be his intention. Just by not being Dalglish, the next man is disadvantaged.

 

So if the leading candidate is not sprinting towards Anfield, is it any wonder? Hodgson will be aware of the timeline, of the fact that Dalglish put his name forward after Hodgson had emerged as a strong contender, perhaps the earliest vote of no confidence in history.

 

Hodgson will know, too, that Dalglish is hugely influential at Liverpool; that he sits in the directors' box for most games and has powerful allies in the local and national media. His is an important voice. To have Dalglish in opposition would be a disaster for any Liverpool manager.

 

Hodgson is stuck between the devil and a deep red sea. If Dalglish remains, his presence may not be entirely helpful, if he leaves in protest at being ignored - an idea floated this week - Hodgson could not have made a more unfortunate start had he suggested ground-sharing at Goodison Park.

 

Lose any combination of Steven Gerrard, Fernando Torres and Javier Mascherano this summer, and Hodgson could take Graeme Souness's title of least popular Liverpool manager before a ball is kicked.

 

Any other business? The alleged approach to Marseille for coach Didier Deschamps, said to have taken place on Thursday. Jean-Claude Dassier, the Marseille president, claimed he spoke to Purslow and refused permission to open talks with Deschamps and his agent Jean-Pierre Bernes.

 

Hardly going all out to make Hodgson feel wanted, are they? Deschamps is a World Cup-winning captain turned title-winning manager and may be seen as a better fit than the humble Hodgson, but his appointment would still be a snub for Dalglish, and would raise the same issues; and Deschamps would not even have the saving grace of Hodgson's knowledge of the Premier League to guide him through the first season.

 

At any other club in Liverpool's position, Hodgson would be a fine choice; and at any other time, Liverpool would be a fantastic opportunity for him. Not right now though.

 

This is a tough job, made doubly difficult by the involvement of Dalglish which is why, if it is to be Hodgson, he must take his time. Further delay will not endear him to supporters, but it is only right he knows where he stands.

 

What are Dalglish's intentions? How much influence will he have if he stays? Who is to be sold, who will remain? What is the financial position? Hodgson should not be expected simply to be grateful for his chance. He might not be King Kenny, but he is too good to be taken for a mug.

 

MARTIN SAMUEL: Kenny Dalglish could be a pain Roy Hodgson can do without | Mail Online

[Guest LFD]

I'd take any of those four options over Capello.

[Le Poof]

I'd take any of those four options over Capello.

 

You wouldn't have a man that has won five Serie A titles, two La Liga titles, four Italian Cups, a Super Cup, and a European cup over Deschamps or Hodgson?

[spider-neil]

You wouldn't have a man that has won five Serie A titles, two La Liga titles, four Italian Cups, a Super Cup, and a European cup over Deschamps or Hodgson?

 

after his tactics for england, I hope crapello comes no where near liverpool.

[Coro]

 

MARTIN SAMUEL: Kenny Dalglish could be a pain Roy Hodgson can do without | Mail Online

 

More short sighted, ignorant shite that will be lapped up by the masses.

 

Thanks Samuel, you fat bearded twat.

 

Why is it so hard for these men to skim a little deeper?

[Guest LFD]

You wouldn't have a man that has won five Serie A titles, two La Liga titles, four Italian Cups, a Super Cup, and a European cup over Deschamps or Hodgson?

 

No because I don't like his methods and think he isn't really suited for the Premiership.

 

He is similar to Rafa and I think we need a more expansive apporach.

[Le Poof]

after his tactics for england, I hope crapello comes no where near liverpool.

 

Bollocks. I doubt you were saying that when he got them to piss their through qualifying with nine wins out of ten and a +28 goal difference. Short memory on you, eh.

 

Jesus himself couldn't get that England side to win fuck all when it comes to the real competitions. Their problems were psychological, not tactical. The English National Team is a fucking circus in every corner, be it the FA or the media, or on the pitch, be it Terry, or their myriad of shit keepers. Capello's good, but he's not magic. You'd do well to look at the similarities with every manager that takes control of England - it's not that every manager is inept, it's the team and its combination of arrogance and lack of quality coupled with their atrocious mentality. Golden generation? Don't make me laugh.

[Coro]

You wouldn't have a man that has won five Serie A titles, two La Liga titles, four Italian Cups, a Super Cup, and a European cup over Deschamps or Hodgson?

 

Classic knee-jerkism that the majority are guilty of.

 

No wonder English football is a mess.

[Il Fenomeno]

Capello gets his teams beating the lesser sides easily, which is how you win the league. He would be perfect for us.

[Jokerman]

Bollocks. I doubt you were saying that when he got them to piss their through qualifying with nine wins out of ten and a +28 goal difference. Short memory on you, eh.

 

Jesus himself couldn't get that England side to win fuck all when it comes to the real competitions. Their problems were psychological, not tactical. The English National Team is a fucking circus in every corner, be it the FA or the media, or on the pitch, be it Terry, or their myriad of shit keepers. Capello's good, but he's not magic. You'd do well to look at the similarities with every manager that takes control of England - it's not that every manager is inept, it's the team and its combination of arrogance and lack of quality coupled with their atrocious mentality. Golden generation? Don't make me laugh.

 

Absolutely. Capello may have made some errors in this World Cup, but on the whole, England's failure is because of the mentality and the philosophy of the players, the egos that there are in the squad and the arrogance of the players themselves, as well as their technical limitations. The same as it is at every major competition.

[Stu Monty]

Absolutely. Capello may have made some errors in this World Cup, but on the whole, England's failure is because of the mentality and the philosophy of the players, the egos that there are in the squad and the arrogance of the players themselves, as well as their technical limitations. The same as it is at every major competition.

 

And the fact that they come from a football culture than places very little concern with possession. Knocking it about at the back is deemed cowardly or defensive. How many passes from defenders would it take before the Tranmere/Altrincham/Bury fans started screaming at the team to get it forward and stop pissing around with it? Six? Seven?

[Lee909]

Samuel si a london loving twat. His is the paper that Chelski used to to unsettle Gerrard in 04/05,his is the paper that has been one of the biggest in trying to appoint Hodgson,His is the paper that has been trying to sell our best paper

In short his is a paper that is a intolerant,Xenophobic,Racsist rag not fit to line a rabbit hutch.

[Il Fenomeno]

And the fact that they come from a football culture than places very little concern with possession. Knocking it about at the back is deemed cowardly or defensive. How many passes from defenders would it take before the Tranmere/Altrincham/Bury fans started screaming at the team to get it forward and stop pissing around with it? Six? Seven?

 

It's the Fat Sam's "They don't like it up em" culture.

[Coro]

Samuel si a london loving twat. His is the paper that Chelski used to to unsettle Gerrard in 04/05,his is the paper that has been one of the biggest in trying to appoint Hodgson,His is the paper that has been trying to sell our best paper

In short his is a paper that is a intolerant,Xenophobic,Racsist rag not fit to line a rabbit hutch.

 

There was a thread linked on here from the official forums where a few detached little whoppers were strangely accusing Dalglish of blackmailing the club. Samuel has basically taken both sides of the argument in that thread and turned them into an article of his own.

[chauncey]

Reading a Matt Lawton article on England and had to chuckle when I saw this par:

 

Do we really believe Roy Hodgson would do a better job when there is nothing in his record to suggest he is a better manager than the man currently occupying the role?

 

The ironing is delicious.

[Lee909]

How the fuck can anyone have the front to say anything bad about Kenny. Had he wanted too he could have got the job back anytime he wanted before the Yanks were in. The man wants one thing and its the same as all proper fans want and thats the club back at the top.

[Kevin D]

what exactly is a 'war chest'?

 

The Iraq war has cost America $4trillion, so if Hodgson is demanding a similar fund then I think its best we rethink his appointment and make that call to Sami Hyypia.

 

It's the Fat Sam's "They don't like it up em" culture.

 

Always thought that was a strange phrase. What kind of weirdo does like it up 'em?

[chauncey]

Always thought that was a strange phrase. What kind of weirdo does like it up 'em?

 

Women, gays and United fans.