Who is top of the UEFA Co effs for 06/07 ?

[redrosetints]

WE are ;

 

http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method3/tcoef2007.html

[Captain]

The good thing about the club ranking is that the mancs, for the first time in many years, are out of the top seeds. And they have a real battle on their hands to get back in before the season ends.

[aws]

Where are Everton?

[Hermes]

Where are Everton?

 

Beneathus?

[redrosetints]

Where are Everton?

 

Its only based on this years games. Unfortunatley, Lilliput dont have entrants into UEFA competitions.

 

If you look at the menus along the top of the page, you'll see an overall coeff rating I think.

 

And Captain, ditto, its only this year mate, so unfortunaltey the Mancs will be top seeds again next tyear.

[L19red]

this is the one that determines seedings for next year

http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method3/trank2007.html

 

i have no idea how the geordies get above manu and chelsea, that just bizarre.

[aws]

this is the one that determines seedings for next year

http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method3/trank2007.html

 

i have no idea how the geordies get above manu and chelsea, that just bizarre.

 

 

Everton just edge out Millwall.

[isr]

Sorry mate, but that is bullshit. No way that table is accurate.

 

04/05, the year we became European Champions, we get a score of 30. That same year, Newcastle get 27.

 

No way!!

[aws]

Sorry mate, but that is bullshit. No way that table is accurate.

 

04/05, the year we became European Champions, we get a score of 30. That same year, Newcastle get 27.

 

No way!!

 

They get extra points for each big-name purchase.

[185]

Where are Everton?

 

Number 102. Below European giants such as Ipswich, Leeds, Man City and Fulham.

[isr]

They get extra points for each big-name purchase.

 

I get it now. 12 points (even that, I scoff at), + the fee they paid for Owen in the close season. No wonder they outbid the asking price by so much. Not as dumb as they look, these Geordies....

[gumps]

Sorry mate, but that is bullshit. No way that table is accurate.

 

04/05, the year we became European Champions, we get a score of 30. That same year, Newcastle get 27.

 

No way!!

 

The scores are worked out from a teams results. Roughly 2 pts for a win, 1 for a draw etc IIRC. Newcastles score is high because they have played A LOT of intertoto & UEFA cup games the last few years. so they've racked up a good score.

 

Of course, their co-efficient ranking is only applicable in whatever competition they qualify for, so they're hardly going to worry the Champions League rankings are they!!!!

[RedPower]

The scores are worked out from a teams results. Roughly 2 pts for a win, 1 for a draw etc IIRC. Newcastles score is high because they have played A LOT of intertoto & UEFA cup games the last few years. so they've racked up a good score.

 

Of course, their co-efficient ranking is only applicable in whatever competition they qualify for, so they're hardly going to worry the Champions League rankings are they!!!!

 

I don't think that's true; I remember reading (but can't recall where) that the rankings are applicable to both the UEFA Cup and Champions League, irrespective of where the points were acrued.

 

If you check out the 2005 rankings here you will see that our UEFA cup win from 2001 is included in the rankings (which has now fallen outside of the 5-year rolling window).

[Strontium]

I don't think that's true; I remember reading (but can't recall where) that the rankings are applicable to both the UEFA Cup and Champions League, irrespective of where the points were acrued.

 

I don't think he's questioning that, rather pointing out that it's irrelevant because Newcastle will never, ever qualify for the Champions League.

[isr]

Good God. Surely wins in the Champions League are given greater weighting than wins in the Intertoto. Plus, winning matches in the latter stages (when you come up against the better teams) must also count more than wins in the early qualifying stages.

 

Err, and winning the final out to count for a point or two.

 

These can't be the official UEFA rankings. I'm sure (without bothering to check) that their rankings must be something more complex than 2 points for a win, any win.

[gumps]

I don't think he's questioning that, rather pointing out that it's irrelevant because Newcastle will never, ever qualify for the Champions League.

 

Thats exactly what I meant!

 

You're right though, there is no "weighting" for results gained in the CL only bonus points for getting through certain rounds. Fair enough I suppose, as our UEFA cup scores were included in our ranking.

 

Great wee site that Bert Kassies one though. Well done for someone to actually put UEFAs system out in the open.

[The Chief]

this is the one that determines seedings for next year

http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method3/trank2007.html

 

i have no idea how the geordies get above manu and chelsea, that just bizarre.[/QUOTE]

 

Simple mate, the geordies have played one more game than us the chavs and man ure, and they won i that game. after the next round of games that'll change, we'll go back above them, hopefully, when we play Barca.

[L19red]

this is the one that determines seedings for next year

http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method3/trank2007.html

 

i have no idea how the geordies get above manu and chelsea, that just bizarre.[/QUOTE]

 

Simple mate, the geordies have played one more game than us the chavs and man ure, and they won i that game. after the next round of games that'll change, we'll go back above them, hopefully, when we play Barca.

 

but there is more to it than that. we won the uefa cup in 2001 and got 22 points, the geordies get to the qurter finals one year and rack up 27 points. its a fucked up system

[Captain]

And Captain, ditto, its only this year mate, so unfortunaltey the Mancs will be top seeds again next tyear.

 

I can't see any facts to support this, could you elaborate?

[benno2]

If you look down to 42nd spot, you'll see that Espanyol lead this year's rankings. Presumably, they were in the Intertoto too.

[Original202]

2 points for a win and 1 for a draw in UEFA Cup and Champions League

1 point for a win and half a point for a draw in InterToto and Champions League Qualifiers

3 bonus points for teams who qualify for the champions league group stage

 

Plus clubs earn bonus points for the their country which are then shared between them. So it helps us if other English clubs win games.

 

It's quite a fair system when you look at how it's worked out on the whole. Seems a bit flawed at first but when you look into it it makes more sense. Newcastle have also been in the champions league in the last 5 years which has helped keep their average high.

[Original202]

If you look down to 42nd spot, you'll see that Espanyol lead this year's rankings. Presumably, they were in the Intertoto too.

 

they weren't. they qualified through the spanish cup.

 

they've won most of their games in europe this season though.

[Original202]

Also, remember that Juventus are currently up there and won't be in the champions league next season so Chelsea could move up another rank providing they don't get knocked out against Porto. AC Milan not certain to qualify either.