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20 hours ago, Chairman Meow said:

If there is one thing I've learned in the last few years between Litvinenko, the Salisbury lot and this guy it's that if you're going to Russia it's probably best to take a packed lunch and a thermos. 

And stay away from the windows.

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Had a brilliant night out in St. Petersburg last year. Quite possibly avoided being murdered and robbed by the skin of my teeth about six times. Started drinking some yard long beers in a bar with work colleagues, went somewhere else with two women to drink shots, headed for home but got picked up by two other women (in hindsight not pillars of the community), went to some other bars, quite possibly got drugged, had my laptop taken out of my bag but caught the fucker and kicked off (not my style, hence the feeling I was drugged), went home with one of the women but decided against it when she started going on about cash payment. Got in a car with a random bloke who said he’d take me home, realised this was a bad plan when he started driving in the opposite direction, jumped out at the traffic lights as he tried to pull me back, discussed a potential ride home on a horse which led to nothing. Bare in mind, this is just the stuff I do remember. There are a lot of blanks. Bizarrely there are some photos of that night I can show. 
 

The only thing this adds to the poisoning discussion is that at no point during the evening did I consume tea. As a result, I’m still around to tell the tale. 
 

Don’t drink tea in Russia.

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8 minutes ago, Colonel Kurtz said:

Sounds like a great night. The women above has got "trouble" flashing above her head like a red dashboard warning light. Pull over and walk away .

 

Yeah - the sober me would have seen that straight away. The drunk me got carried away. To be fair, from memory, she wasn’t that bad. I’ve know far worse in my travels around Eastern Europe. I think we even did karaoke at one point. 
 

The girl in the first photo is a doctor. Nice girl, she had one of her colleagues drooling over her, hence why she invited me elsewhere for shots. I don’t think she was keen on him. She wasn’t after me either but we had a good drink. Probably should have gone home after that but it was an interesting adventure. 

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13 hours ago, Em City said:

 

Are these still on YouTube or anywhere else by any chance?

Sure, there are loads of them. Here's one example, this is one of the crooks behind the big state bank and his lover. He puts all the big assets in her name or in the name of family members, so Navalny just pulls apart the lies.

 

You have to put on subtitles and then translate them into English, but Youtube makes it easy. You might skip to 7 minutes in, the first part is just his showing that they're actually lovers (which is illegal to say in Russia online).

 

 

This is one example, there are loads of these videos on his channel.

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21 hours ago, YorkshireRed said:

Had a brilliant night out in St. Petersburg last year. Quite possibly avoided being murdered and robbed by the skin of my teeth about six times. Started drinking some yard long beers in a bar with work colleagues, went somewhere else with two women to drink shots, headed for home but got picked up by two other women (in hindsight not pillars of the community), went to some other bars, quite possibly got drugged, had my laptop taken out of my bag but caught the fucker and kicked off (not my style, hence the feeling I was drugged), went home with one of the women but decided against it when she started going on about cash payment. Got in a car with a random bloke who said he’d take me home, realised this was a bad plan when he started driving in the opposite direction, jumped out at the traffic lights as he tried to pull me back, discussed a potential ride home on a horse which led to nothing. Bare in mind, this is just the stuff I do remember. There are a lot of blanks. Bizarrely there are some photos of that night I can show. 
 

The only thing this adds to the poisoning discussion is that at no point during the evening did I consume tea. As a result, I’m still around to tell the tale. 
 

Don’t drink tea in Russia.

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Said it before and I’ll say it again

 

Rachel Riley is a cunt 

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28 minutes ago, Tj hooker said:

Was that the MI6 officer who supposedly zipped himself into a holdall in the bath and accidentally suffocated? Yeah I always felt there were elements in that story that roused suspicions. 

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1 minute ago, Section_31 said:

Was that the MI6 officer who supposedly zipped himself into a holdall in the bath and accidentally suffocated? Yeah I always felt there were elements in that story that roused suspicions. 

Yeah it was he worked at GCHQ as well from Anglesey if I remember correctly 

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3 minutes ago, sir roger said:

I only skim-read it but I think Code nominated The Donald.

Donald Trump is on stand-by to issue Code with a green-card and allow him to vote in one of the swing states if his advisors tell him its going to be a close run. If Code votes, Trump wins by a landslide. Early indicators say Michigan but I have a hunch it might be Iowa. 

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Has this been covered at all in the Western media?

 

In Russia it is all anyone is talking about. An utterly insane story, like a really good spy novel but where everything is actually true and really happened. 

 

One irony is that if Russia weren't so corrupt it would be impossible to prove anything. The only reason the journalists found out that it was Putin's thugs following Navalny was because there is a black market in Russia where you can buy passenger lists for flights, phone records for other people, etc. So they bought the flight lists and phone records of the times he traveled and then found out that there were five people flying everywhere he did, then bought their phone records and Bob's your uncle, followed the thread.

 

But the best part of all is this phone call. I wish more of you spoke Russian - it has to be heard to be believed. Navalny calls and just pretends to be the secretary of the head of the security services, demanding answers for why the poisoning went wrong. The chemical warfare specialist who was on the team that poisoned him is just answering his questions, saying "well, we put the chemicals on his pants, right on the seam at his crotch, but we must have gotten the dosage wrong." It's actually surreal to listen to, the killer has no conscience about it at all, he's just reporting in to what he thinks is his superior about the failed operation.

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For those like me who thought "what the fuck are they talking about?"

 

'Do you remember the underwear's colour?' - Navalny's call with duped spy

Russian opposition leader publishes transcript of call with FSB operative allegedly involved in attempt to kill him

 
Published:18:27 Mon 21 December 2020
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On Monday Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny published a telephone call he had with FSB operative Konstantin Kudryavtsev, who was allegedly part of the FSB team, which in August poisoned Navalny when he travelled to Siberia.

Navalny survived after the plane he fell sick on was diverted to a nearby airport and he received quick medical attention. He rang Kudryavtsev from Germany last week, pretending to be an aide to a top FSB official.

Below is an edited transcript. Dialogue is in bold.

Navalny: Konstantin Borisovich?

Kudryavtsev: Yes, yes!

N: This is Ustinov Maxim Sergeevich, aide to Nikolay Platonovich Patrushev [former FSB chief]. I received your number from Vladimir Mikhailovich Bogdanov [head of the FSB’s special technology centre]. I apologise for the early hour, but I urgently require 10 minutes of your time.

K: Alright.

“Maxim” explains that he has been told to investigate what went wrong in the operation to poison Navalny. He says he has to ask Kudryavtsev and other members of his FSB unit a few questions, including why the plot failed.

K: There are always nuances, there are always nuances in every job. The whole situation turned out, as it were, on one side... well, I don’t know how to say it properly here…

N: Well?

K: .. Well, they landed [the plane], and the situation developed in a way that… Not in our favour, I think. If it had been a little longer, I think the situation could have gone differently.

N: A little longer what, Konstantin Borisovich?

K: Flying.

N: Flying a little longer?

K: Well, maybe, yes, if it had flown a little longer and they hadn’t landed it abruptly somehow and so on, maybe it all would have gone differently. That is, if it hadn’t been for the prompt work of the medics, the paramedics on the landing strip, and so on.

Kudryavtsev said he travelled to Omsk on 25 August – five days after the poisoning – as part of a clean-up operation. His job was to remove traces of the nerve agent novichok from Navalny’s clothes.

K: They treated it with solutions, that it wasn’t… ohhhh… how to say it… treated it so there wouldn’t be any marks there, nothing like that.

N: All the things were treated?

K: No, not all of them at first. First there were the basic ones: suits, underpants, all that stuff. While we were going, another box was brought in, everything, everything had already been processed there the last time.

N: On the things, is there any chance that Navalny’s wife, or someone at the hospital, cut off a piece of clothing and it got…

K: No.

N: There is no such possibility?

K: No. Everything was in one piece. There were no traces of cutting and so on.

N: In your opinion, how did the Germans eventually discover it all?

K: Well, they got the Bundeswehr involved. They have military chemists working there. Maybe they have some methods of detection.

During the 49-minute conversation “Maxim” presses Kudryavtsev for details of how Navalny was poisoned.

N: And on which piece of cloth was your focus on? Which garment had the highest risk factor?

K: The underpants.

N: The underpants.

K: A risk factor in what sense?

N: Where the concentration [of novichok] could be highest?

K: Well, the underpants.

N: Do you mean from the inner side or from the outer?..

K: Well, we were processing the inner side. This is what we were doing.

N: Well, imagine some underpants in front of you, which part did you process?

K: The inner, where the groin is.

N: The groin?

K: Well, the crotch, as they call it. There is some sort of seams there, by the seams.

N: Wait, this is important. Who gave you the order to process the codpiece of the underpants?

K: We figured this on our own. They told us to work on the inner side of the underpants.

N: I am writing it down. The inner side. Ok… Do you remember the underwear’s colour?

K: Blue. But I am not sure..

N: And they are whole, I mean theoretically we [FSB] could give them back? We are not going to do this, but they are undamaged and everything is ok with them?

K: Yes, all is clear.

N: Visually, nothing would be discovered? There are no spots, nothing?

K: No, no. Everything is fine, they are in good condition, clean.

N: Do you think this was a mistake — the method of administration?

K: Well, this is not my call.

N: What is your opinion?

K: This is what my superiors have decided, therefore, it is probably correct. The method is a good one.

N: Well, he remains alive, therefore, it is not that good. Do you understand what I am saying?

K: Well, I already said that the circumstances developed in a way for the situation to be as it is. There was contact – therefore the penetration was good enough. Those decisions depend on the situation and the experience.

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