Summer 2018 Transfer Thread

[aws]

AWS, Remmie and Jairzinho - check your privates.

All present and correct.

[Jay86]

You could give Rodgers solid gold like Sessegnon and he'd fry his head in 6 months and ruin any confidence or natural footballing instinct the kid had.

Klopp has a clear plan with the players he buys and only buys players that fit the system. Rodgers bought people who he thought were good despite if they fit his style of play or not. Markovic for example is someone who had natural footballing ability but was useless for us, partly because he was ruined by Rodgers, he was played LWB at one point. Now Markovic is a nothing player, he’s less than shit.

[G Richards]

Imagine if our two main summer signings (besides Keita) are from the Championship, and it costs us £100M to get them!

[the chimp]

According to CalcioMercado we have an agreement to sign Danielle Cebbalos from Real Madrid for around £35m...

 

I had a quick Google and he reminds me of Martin Keown - is this Calibos lad definitely a midfielder?

 

[Ne Moe Imya]

Graeme Kelly over on Twitter (the only ITK that actually seems to be in the know) says that Jack Butland will "more than likely sign for LFC."

 

I presume that's happening due to some relegation clause in his contract that's making him a lot cheaper than he should be. Even so, this will be the first transfer move in a while I think is a mistake.

 

I suppose if he's just coming in to replace Mignolet on the bench it's fine, but after rumours of Oblak and Alisson it's a bit disappointing.

[El Rojo]

Graeme Kelly over on Twitter (the only ITK that actually seems to be in the know)

 

Reported to Dave.

[Remmie]

AWS, Remmie and Jairzinho - check your privates.

Thanks mate. That last bit would be absolutely mental if it plays out as it should.

[Lee909]

Butland

I hope not. Thought he looked good pre injury,since that not looked half as good and reports a month back that they want 40ml. Be a joke near that price,nowhere near a big enough upgrade to be worth that

[Harry Squatter]

I had a quick Google and he reminds me of Martin Keown - is this Calibos lad definitely a midfielder?

 

What's Antonio Conte got to with it?

[Paulie Dangerously]

Are you one of those ITKs that just looks on Twitter?

 

I can confirm that he's legit. 

[Ne Moe Imya]

Butland

I hope not. Thought he looked good pre injury,since that not looked half as good and reports a month back that they want 40ml. Be a joke near that price,nowhere near a big enough upgrade to be worth that

 

Fully agreed that for anything over 15m it's a terrible idea.

 

I'm basing this only on how good our transfer people have been of late, but I can't see any way a smart club pays big money for Butland. That's why I'm saying there must be a relegation clause in his contract and we're taking advantage.

 

Essentially I think we'll be looking for 10-15m for Mignolet and if we can spend the same amount (plus similar wages) on Butland it's essentially a swap deal for us financially. Whether Butland is better than Mignolet is up for debate but there isn't that much in it either way in all likelihood. The more I think about it the more I just think "meh, backup GK, who cares, as long as it doesn't cost us anything."

[the chimp]

What's Antonio Conte got to with it?

 

He wrote Holy Diver about Diego Costa.

[Babb'sBurstNad]

Both of them would be really smart signings. Maddison is the new Lallana and Sessegnon is the biggest talent in English football since Alli.

 

In which case, shouldn't we leave him where he is until he's about 25?

[Billy Big Twat]

Would genuinely rather have Mignolet or Ward as back up rather than Butland. The idea of Butland coming in as first choice is terrifying.

 

Doesn't make sense so I'm writing it off as bollocks. Let's be honest, that Graeme Kelly hasn't got a clue. Won't happen.

[G Richards]

To my mind back up keepers need to be reliable veterans or talented youngsters trying to step up. Butland is neither of those.

 

If it’s for a low fee due to relegation, and he comes as a number two, and puts pressure on Karius to produce his best form and keep growing, I could just about understand it. But if Butland is coming as a number one keeper, then for me, Clive, it’s a no thank you. Since that ankle injury he has regressed alarmingly.

[Trumo]

Is Butland suited to how we play, or is he yet another of those shotstoppers that are kept very busy because they play week in week out for a club below the top 6 in the PL? That's the deciding factor for whether he should be considered as a possible signing.

[aRdja]

Replace Lallana with Ceballos and that's a quality upgrade. Don't know how much we can get for Lallana these days, maybe some dumb team (West Ham?) will give us £15m. I'd take it and run.

 

Don't think Ceballos will end up costing £35m, either. There aren't likely to be too many suitors who can pay his wages and he'll probably have a big say in it as well. I predict somewhere between £25-30m, which is a risk but not a huge one. His passing stats are excellent, there's a decent chance he flops but also a decent chance it all clicks and he turns into the Spanish version of Luka Modric. Certainly the talent is there, might need a few Klopp scowls/hugs to get his attitude to match.

How is Lallana to Ceballos an upgrade? You couldn’t have come to that conclusion from the two senior stars he made this season surely?

[aRdja]

I can confirm that he's legit.

Agreed. He’s knows more than the lesser in the know accounts.

[Grinch]

Butland is wank, worse than Karius by a huge margin.

[Grinch]

In which case, shouldn't we leave him where he is until he's about 25?

 

Or better yet, all together, like we should have done with Lallana.

[J-V]

How is Lallana to Ceballos an upgrade? You couldn’t have come to that conclusion from the two senior stars he made this season surely?

Because he can actually kick a ball without getting injured.

 

Lallana needs to be sold regardless. Even if he’s not replaced we’re not losing anything.

[aRdja]

Because he can actually kick a ball without getting injured.

 

Lallana needs to be sold regardless. Even if he’s not replaced we’re not losing anything.

Lallana when fit is a good PL proven midfielder. Ceballos hasn’t really done anything of note so far in his career, he might do of course.. but as likely, his career could go the way of another ex Real Madrid player; Jesé who struggles to get a game for Stoke.

[Jay86]

Butland looked great pre injury, unless it was just MOTD highlights because every game I seen him on on MOTD he was making ridiculous saves. He’s been pretty shit since and isn’t very commanding in his area so he’s essentially the same as Karius, they both make mistakes and aren’t very commanding. That’s said, if he’s coming as a backup to replace Mignolet which is possible, as long as we aren’t too much out of pocket it’s not a bad deal because hes a lot better than Mignolet.

 

I’ve seen Jorginho heavily linked with Man City today and it’s just a formality that he signs for them, weird one that for them because he won’t play instead of De Bruyne or Silva and if he plays instead of Fernandinho they’ll be wide open in midfield. It explains our links with Neves though, we’ve probably been informed that Jorginho favours a move to City and we’ve quickly moved on to Neves who is very similar.

[Jairzinho]

Is Butland suited to how we play, or is he yet another of those shotstoppers that are kept very busy because they play week in week out for a club below the top 6 in the PL? That's the deciding factor for whether he should be considered as a possible signing.

 

Isn't he at Stoke?

[J-V]

Lallana when fit is a good PL proven midfielder. Ceballos hasn’t really done anything of note so far in his career, he might do of course.. but as likely, his career could go the way of another ex Real Madrid player; Jesé who struggles to get a game for Stoke.

 

You answered your own question by the third word.