Bad shit going down in Brussels

[dennis tooth]

You don't get it. Don't worry.

Excuse my ignorance when you meet jesus in heaven would you? Tell him God says he wants a paternity test as she was a virgin.

[dennis tooth]

Coz i'm not bat shit crazy.

What should we do with muslims naz?

[Naz17]

What should we do with muslims naz?

 

Which muslims Dennis?

[moof]

Coz i'm not bat shit crazy.

What is your chosen dogma, naz?

[Section_31]

What should we do with muslims naz?

Ostracise them and bomb their homelands while propping up their most radical and oppressive governments. We should execute them with drone strikes without trial even if they're British citizens and give them longer in jail for posting something on Facebook than Adam Johnson got for stretching a schoolgirl's arsehole out. Then we should blame it all on them and their backwards-ass books.

[Rico1304]

Its like this rico, and Im not into religion, if I give you a recipe to make ice cream and you dont follow it and put poison in, then set up at the fair, its not my fault or that of my recipe when the kids start dying.

The 9/11 attackers were drunk and high in a strip club the night before, they could have claimed to be representatives of disney and it wouldnt have mattered, theyre still criminals.

No

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Scotsman

[Denny Crane]

What about Richard Reid the shoe bomber though? He was a picture of mental health. The ISIS high command too, former Iraqi Army top brass we sent to the dole queue, scholars of Islam one and all.

Not sure if true but I heard they based a bit of Four Lions on Richard Reid.

[Kant]

It's pretty clear from reading the relevant portions of the Islamic holy books - not just the Quran, but also the Hadith, the Shari'ah and the biography of Muhammad - that there is a central doctrine of jihad which isn't represented in other religions. The initial idea of jihad (while Muhammad was still in Mecca) was quite peaceful and could be fairly translated more as "striving" than "holy war" (hence the "Islam is a religion of peace" parroted by the likes of Obama). However, it was revised three times during his lifetime, each revision superseding the previous, to the final version, which is an offensive war in pursuit of either victory or martyrdom. This version of jihad is explicitly stated as being greater than other service, and of the highest rank in the sight of Allah. Islam is a total ideology, striving in pursuit of world sovereignty.

It's a shame that so many commentators, speaking from the comfort of secular, liberal societies, choose to ignore this in favour of the "Muh! Racist!" retort that accompanies such a reading of the facts.

[dennis tooth]

Which muslims Dennis?

All of them. Weve been going round in circles really Im trying to get at whats your final solution?

 

And rico if your not a government stooge, (if you are welcome sah! *does arnold rimmer thing) if not enlightenment is this way and its better than you even dreamed its all real, keep going.

[Rico1304]

All of them. Weve been going round in circles really Im trying to get at whats your final solution?

And rico if your not a government stooge, (if you are welcome sah! *does arnold rimmer thing) if not enlightenment is this way and its better than you even dreamed its all real, keep going.

I'm a gas man.

[Naz17]

All of them. Weve been going round in circles really Im trying to get at whats your final solution?

 

And rico if your not a government stooge, (if you are welcome sah! *does arnold rimmer thing) if not enlightenment is this way and its better than you even dreamed its all real, keep going.

 

Lol at "final solution" - deliberate use of the term I don't doubt.

 

I can't say anything about "all muslims" - and I never have done. You'll have to be more specific.

[Section_31]

It's pretty clear from reading the relevant portions of the Islamic holy books - not just the Quran, but also the Hadith, the Shari'ah and the biography of Muhammad - that there is a central doctrine of jihad which isn't represented in other religions. The initial idea of jihad (while Muhammad was still in Mecca) was quite peaceful and could be fairly translated more as "striving" than "holy war" (hence the "Islam is a religion of peace" parroted by the likes of Obama). However, it was revised three times during his lifetime, each revision superseding the previous, to the final version, which is an offensive war in pursuit of either victory or martyrdom. This version of jihad is explicitly stated as being greater than other service, and of the highest rank in the sight of Allah. Islam is a total ideology, striving in pursuit of world sovereignty.

It's a shame that so many commentators, speaking from the comfort of secular, liberal societies, choose to ignore this in favour of the "Muh! Racist!" retort that accompanies such a reading of the facts.

That might be so but humans are humans, they want security, peace and happiness, it takes something monumental to shake them out of that comfort zone and make them fight, die and top themselves.

 

People are talking as though Muslims the world over are reading a book which is telling them to go batshit and start killing non believers, they're not, oddballs are being manipulated by powerful interests.

 

Bin Laden was backed by the US against the Soviets then turned against them because of their backing for the Saudis.

 

Isis were born out of the Iraqi military following the invasion when we sacked them.

 

These people draw people to their cause the way cult leaders do, but their reasons are less religious than they are political and financial.

 

The masses are always pawns. The German people were pawns, the Soviet people were pawns, the jarheads who get recruited from poverty stricken cities like Detroit and Philadelphia and sent to Iraq are pawns.

 

Saudi princes don't get their hands dirty, Stalin didn't get his hands dirty, Donald rumsfeld didn't get his hands dirty. It's the same old shit, round and round it goes.

 

[Naz17]

I'm a gas man.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FE0XcdM22Yo

[AngryOfTuebrook]

I find it astonishing you can say that. Who are you to tell someone what their motivations are?

 

They say they are following the book, they quote the book, they do EXACTLY what the book says - but it's not the book. Just because they don't cherry pick the nice bits doesn't mean it's not the book.

There's plenty of evidence that they do not live by the book. Not least in the way they murder people.

 

We've all been round and round this a million times. If you haven't been persuaded by the facts yet, you probably won't be.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

No

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Scotsman

Bollocks.

[Rico1304]

There's plenty of evidence that they do not live by the book. Not least in the way they murder people.

We've all been round and round this a million times. If you haven't been persuaded by the facts yet, you probably won't be.

Ha ha ha genius. One word: Pew.

[dennis tooth]

I'm a gas man.

Im offering you a way out neo, i mean rico.

[dennis tooth]

Lol at "final solution" - deliberate use of the term I don't doubt.

 

I can't say anything about "all muslims" - and I never have done. You'll have to be more specific.

Exactly.

Didnt take too long. Thanks.

[Kant]

That might be so but humans are humans, they want security, peace and happiness, it takes something monumental to shake them out of that comfort zone and make them fight, die and top themselves.

 

People are talking as though Muslims the world over are reading a book which is telling them to go batshit and start killing non believers, they're not, oddballs are being manipulated by powerful interests.

 

Bin Laden was backed by the US against the Soviets then turned against them because of their backing for the Saudis.

 

Isis were born out of the Iraqi military following the invasion when we sacked them.

 

These people draw people to their cause the way cult leaders do, but their reasons are less religious than they are political and financial.

 

The masses are always pawns. The German people were pawns, the Soviet people were pawns, the jarheads who get recruited from poverty stricken cities like Detroit and Philadelphia and sent to Iraq are pawns.

 

Saudi princes don't get their hands dirty, Stalin didn't get his hands dirty, Donald rumsfeld didn't get his hands dirty. It's the same old shit, round and round it goes.

Im happy to agree that Western foreign policy leaves a lot to be desired, but I don't agree with the likes of Chomsky who think that it's responsible for all the Islamic terrorism we've seen in recent years. People are always going to be manipulated to varying degrees, but it's obvious that many people truly believe the words they read in their holy books, and make choices accordingly.

[Jairzinho]

Im happy to agree that Western foreign policy leaves a lot to be desired, but I don't agree with the likes of Chomsky who think that it's responsible for all the Islamic terrorism we've seen in recent years. People are always going to be manipulated to varying degrees, but it's obvious that many people truly believe the words they read in their holy books, and make choices accordingly.

 

It's a fucking big coincidence then.

[Naz17]

Exactly.

Didnt take too long. Thanks.

 

No answer then huh?

[KMD7]

Would you mind going to tell them they're not doing Islam properly. Cheers.

Ha ha!

[Strontium]

Im happy to agree that Western foreign policy leaves a lot to be desired, but I don't agree with the likes of Chomsky who think that it's responsible for all the Islamic terrorism we've seen in recent years.

 

You'll be telling us next that George W. Bush isn't directly responsible for the 8th century Islamic conquest of Spain.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Ha ha ha genius. One word: Pew.

Three words. Yadda yadda yadda.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

No

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Scotsman

The "no true Scotsman" fallacy isn't applicable. It's not in the least fallacious to say that no true Muslim lives his life in a way that contravenes the laws of Islam.