Donald Trump

[Bjornebye]

1 hour ago, Dougie Do'ins said:

If the polls do start showing anything like a landslide defeat for Trump, I can see him pulling out for whatever bat shit excuse he can muster rather than have to face an embarrassing loss. 

Whatever happens it’s gonna be a hell of a ride. He is going to go full Trump over the coming months. I reckon he’s more scared of getting charges against him once he isn’t president than actually being president. The cunt will probably find a way to win it. If he is good at anything it’s manipulation 

[Bjornebye]

5 minutes ago, Hank Moody said:

Biden is a ridiculous choice to run a against Trump. Trump is the oldest president ever, so to replace him they’ve chosen a man who will be 78 soon. At some point, taking on one of the most stressful jobs in the world, age and health becomes an important factor. I hope he picks a decent VP. 

Michelle. 

[TheHowieLama]

8 minutes ago, SasaS said:

That is not exactly true is it?

No, if you want to make it "not exactly" true you can.

 

Check bond yield warnings as far back as last August if you want to make it "not exactly" wrong.

 

 

[TheHowieLama]

1 minute ago, Bjornebye said:

Michelle. 

Never -- Harris or the woman from Atlanta.

[Bjornebye]

2 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

Never -- Harris or the woman from Atlanta.

Megan Fox or the Duchess 

[TheHowieLama]

19 minutes ago, Hank Moody said:

Biden is a ridiculous choice to run a against Trump. 

Earlier I voiced concerns over Biden for a number of reasons and would have agreed.

 

Now he is the only option for anything resembling a return to normal. He is well versed in foreign policy and will easily communicate the pitfalls of "isolationist" economic actions taken by Trump (none of the jobs that were coming back home have materialized), and especially having an adverse relationship with China. 

He will be the only person on either ticket to have worked in a functioning admin.

 

[TheHowieLama]

6 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Megan Fox or the Duchess 

Two strikes against here - the UK and the whole Canadian thing. Sorry, no go.

[SasaS]

13 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

No, if you want to make it "not exactly" true you can.

 

Check bond yield warnings as far back as last August if you want to make it "not exactly" wrong.

 

 

In terms of what some words exactly mean and all that.

[TheHowieLama]

Just now, SasaS said:

In terms of what some words exactly mean and all that.

Yes - you got me there. All that.

 

It will be easier for the Dems to point out the weakness/stagnation in the economy leading up to mid - Feb than it will be for Trump to suggest it was about to rebound.

That is my opinion, I am sure you have yours.

[SasaS]

Just now, TheHowieLama said:

Yes - you got me there. All that.

 

It will be easier for the Dems to point out the weakness/stagnation in the economy leading up to mid - Feb than it will be for Trump to suggest it was about to rebound.

That is my opinion, I am sure you have yours.

Well, we don't know what would have happened in H2 without coronavirus, there were signs that Trumponomics has burned itself out by the end of 2019, but it is possible that there would have been enough of a momentum or a "second wave" to carry him over to the second mandate. Anyway, what happened with the virus, the aftermath and riots and demonstrations would all seemingly be momentous enough to make trends in the H2 of 2019 rather insignificant in comparison, in the eyes of most voters al least.

And 2020 has been crazy enough to suggest there may be more momentous events still to come.  

[niallers]

If he loses, he'll do serious damage to whatever he can do to as he's 2 months in charge after the election before he leaves. Well, that's if he leaves at all. He won't accept any defeat and will have his base all riled up and out a shooting

[TheHowieLama]

57 minutes ago, SasaS said:

And 2020 has been crazy enough to suggest there may be more momentous events still to come.  

Yep - when your main international trade advisor is peddling that coronavirus was "spawned by Chinese communists"

there may be a few more bumps in the road.

[TheHowieLama]

After Trump finished speaking, a person familiar told CNN that two Secret Service agents had also tested positive for coronavirus.

[Nunavut Patrick]

If true he was outsmarted by a bunch of teens and K-Poppers it’ll be funny as fuck.

 

Or maybe people didn’t want to die being crammed in a basketball arena for three hours next to their infected frothing freedom loving Brethren.

[TheHowieLama]

[Dougie Do'ins]

2 hours ago, Hank Moody said:

Biden is a ridiculous choice to run a against Trump. Trump is the oldest president ever, so to replace him they’ve chosen a man who will be 78 soon. At some point, taking on one of the most stressful jobs in the world, age and health becomes an important factor. I hope he picks a decent VP. 

If Trump does win this election, by the end of his second term, he'll be 82. If Biden were to win, then by the end of his second term he'll be 86.

It just seems impossible to me that there isn't anyone out there who isn't younger and have the popularity to oust Trump.

 

Regardless of who wins, there's going to be a president in his 80s. Just seems odd to me.

31 minutes ago, Nunavut Patrick said:

If true he was outsmarted by a bunch of teens and K-Poppers it’ll be funny as fuck.

 

Or maybe people didn’t want to die being crammed in a basketball arena for three hours next to their infected frothing freedom loving Brethren.

I'm not buying into this. I reckon it's nothing but a cover excuse by Trump and his team. It would have got out beforehand if true. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

2 minutes ago, Dougie Do'ins said:

If Trump does win this election, by the end of his second term, he'll be 82. If Biden were to win, then by the end of his second term he'll be 86.

It just seems impossible to me that there isn't anyone out there who isn't younger and have the popularity to oust Trump.

 

Regardless of who wins, there's going to be a president in his 80s. Just seems odd to me.

I'm not buying into this. I reckon it's nothing but a cover excuse by Trump and his team. It would have got out beforehand if true. 

There are people out there, mate. The Democratic Party is just disgusting. 

[TheHowieLama]

3 minutes ago, Dougie Do'ins said:

If Trump does win this election, by the end of his second term, he'll be 82. If Biden were to win, then by the end of his second term he'll be 86.

 

There are a shedload of folks over 60 - more than ever.

We are like a python swallowing the Baby Boomer generation.

[Anubis]

 

 

[Dougie Do'ins]

6 hours ago, Dougie Do'ins said:

I'm not buying into this. I reckon it's nothing but a cover excuse by Trump and his team. It would have got out beforehand if true. 

Seems Trumps team aren't buying into it either.

 

Donald Trump: Re-election campaign denies low turnout manipulation claim

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53129524

 

[Dougie Do'ins]

 

Aye, that worked well.

 

 

 

 

 

[Anubis]

 

 

WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump is "furious" at the "underwhelming" crowd at his rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma, on Saturday evening, a major disappointment for what had been expected to be a raucous return to the campaign trail after three months off because of the coronavirus pandemic, according to multiple people close to the White House.

 

The president was fuming at his top political aides Saturday even before the rally began after his campaign revealed that six members of the advance team on the ground in Tulsa had tested positive for COVID-19, including Secret Service personnel, a person familiar with the discussions said.

 

Trump asked those around him why the information was exposed and expressed annoyance that the coverage ahead of his mega-rally was dominated by the revelation.

 

While the Trump re-election effort boasted that it would fill BOK Center, which seats more than 19,000 people, only 6,200 supporters ultimately occupied the general admission sections, the Tulsa fire marshal told NBC News.

 

The campaign was so confident about a high turnout that it set up an overflow area, which it had expected to attract thousands. But the plan was scrapped at the last minute when only dozens gathered at the time the vice president and the president were set to address the crowd inside.

 

"It's politics 101: You under-promise and overdeliver," a Trump ally said, conceding the missteps the Trump 2020 team took in the lead-up to the event by saying nearly 1 million people had responded to requests for admission.

 

Much of the blame is falling on campaign manager Brad Parscale, who in the days leading up the event aggressively touted the number of registrations, but those close to him stress that his job is safe, for now.

 

Last month, after dismal polling revealed that the president is trailing the presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden, in key battleground states that Trump won in 2016, Parscale was reprimanded and a deputy was brought in to help steer the ship.

 

There are growing concerns among Trump campaign officials that neither the president nor the 2020 team have a coherent message for why he should serve a second term. Saturday evening's meandering, nearly two-hour rally speech is the latest evidence of a lack of a targeted strategy to attack Biden with less than five months to go until the general election.

[Anubis]

 

 

[Moo]

18 minutes ago, Dougie Do'ins said:

 

Aye, that worked well.

 

 

 

 

 

It really is, especially the bit where he impersonates the General saying "Sir, the ramp is ready to go", brilliant. 

[s(k)aturation]

11 hours ago, Section_31 said:

a career politician or a self centred businessman. 

 

One and the same thing, some might argue.