Alberto Aquilani

[Red Nick]

Some Liverpool legends of the past have been racist cunts. I think we know one in particular.

 

So as long as they dont tell babel to go eat Bananas and keep there views private its ok then?

 

What happens when the press get hold of it?

[MLB]

Good long range shot, but then so did Xabi although he didn't use it enough. Rafa's problem with him will be getting the best out of him, he's very talented but not as talented as he himself thinks he is.

 

The issue in not whether Aquilani gives the team as much as Alonso, but whether Aquilani plus the player/s bought with the surplus cash will make the team better.

 

Remember, Xabi was going through the motions for 2 of the last 3 seasons until he was kicked up the arse by Rafa.

 

 

Haven't you heard? That's a MYTH! A MYTH I TELL YOU!

[ToxtethTerror]

If he is a racist then its like Bowyer all over again.

[torahboy]

Having just accepted £30M from an organization that was founded by fascists I don't think we should be too surprised if we spend some of that money on bringing one of their ilk to our club.

 

I'm quite surprised by all this because I understood Lazio to be the more right wing club in Rome. Mind you, all Romans seem to have that Mussolini gene. How much shagging did that fat twat do during the war?

[dirty_sanchez]

If he is a racist then its like Bowyer all over again.

 

:D

[RedinSweden]

If he is a racist then its like Bowyer all over again.

 

Probably best to find out before we slag him off too much though eh? And he hasn't been accused of racism, just having a soft spot for Mussolini and not liking immigrants. no mention of racism.

[Troubadour]

No, Bowyer was a snarling little cunt who physically attacked someone in McDonalds, where he shouldn't have been in the first place. It's very poor quality food.

 

Aquilani, sad as it is, allegedly reveres a leader a depressingly large proportion of Italians still hold a candle for, and allegedly has views depressingly shared by 50 per cent of the population of the western world, at least. I'm not defending it, I'm not saying it's OK, but the fact is that Italian politics is a very strange world on a personal and national level that I'm guessing few of us understand. A lot of Italians are either fairly staunchly left or fairly staunchly right wing. Alberto's obviously just chosen the wrong path. But then maybe he had an uncle killed by the Briganti Rossi or his granddad was shot by the partisans. Maybe he's from a Trastevere slum rife with ethnic tensions in a country with a lot of illegal immigration, and his parents blamed the immigrants for their troubles. We don't know. I'm inclined to say that as long as he keeps his views to himself I'm not particularly fussed either way. I think if you did a political survey of most footballers the vast majority would probably hold ignorant, ill-informed views anyway. Again, I'm not saying it's right, but I suspect they don't really talk about it at training.

 

What happens when the press get hold of it? Well, the Mail and the Express will probably hail him as some kind of martyr and the Guardian will demand his immediate execution. The Independent will ask what his views on the fate of Chinese butterflies are. Besides, having right-wing sympathies has hardly hurt Fabio Capello, has it?

[Hermes]

all Romans seem to have that Mussolini gene. How much shagging did that fat twat do during the war?

 

It a fact that more than 0.5% of the world's population are descendants of Ghenghis Khan. :yes:

[Red Nick]

Probably best to find out before we slag him off too much though eh? And he hasn't been accused of racism, just having a soft spot for Mussolini and not liking immigrants. no mention of racism.

 

Theres a difference?

[jackofdk]

It a fact that more than 0.5% of the world's population are descendants of Ghenghis Khan. :yes:

 

I had to look up that fact. It's only 0,5% of the male population, but still pretty impressive.

 

Genghis Khan a Prolific Lover, DNA Data Implies

[Strontium]

Theres a difference?

 

 

There's a subtle difference, he might hate all immigrants, regardless of race. An equal opportunities bigot, if you like. 21st century progress, that.

[dirty_sanchez]

Theres a difference?

 

Nationalism and racism aren't the same.

[Thants]

Nick, calm down with you? Recently you've been raging through the forum like an evil Danny La Rue on heat. One poster has mentioned his possible racist element and now it's fact? Let's welcome him and see what he's about. He'll be surrounded by new team mates, new ways of thinking. Fuck's sake.

[hamstrung]

Theres a difference?

 

I am sure many of those born and raised in Andalucia would prefer you not to live there, but its not because of your race.

[El Rojo]

Probably best to find out before we slag him off too much though eh? And he hasn't been accused of racism, just having a soft spot for Mussolini and not liking immigrants. no mention of racism.

 

I can just picture him on his first day at the newspaper kiosk in Melwood.

 

"I woulda likea to buya the howyousay 'Dailya Maila' pleasea."

[Whelan]

Well considering we live in a country that has to the best of my knowledge an overwhelming fondness for a bigot such as Winston Churchil and an apartheid supporting Margaret Thatcher maybe we should take a little break from throwing accusations of racism around when support for particular leaders is reported. FFS!

 

Or are we suggesting that De Rossi's fondness for Mussolini has only just been discovered, hence scuppering any deal with Arsene Wenger!

[jackofdk]

In Spain they sell loads of stuff with Franco's picture on in souvenir shops.

 

They're pretty relaxed about fascism in Southern Europe. Pretty fucked up, when you think about it.

 

You can hardly imagine street salesmen peddling Hitler-lighters in Germany.

[Guest Ulysses Everett McGill]

In Spain they sell loads of stuff with Franco's picture on in souvenir shops.

 

They're pretty relaxed about fascism in Southern Europe. Pretty fucked up, when you think about it.

 

You can hardly imagine street salesmen peddling Hitler-lighters in Germany.

 

What, like this?

 

[Guest Ulysses Everett McGill]

No, Bowyer was a snarling little cunt who physically attacked someone in McDonalds, where he shouldn't have been in the first place. It's very poor quality food.

 

Aquilani, sad as it is, allegedly reveres a leader a depressingly large proportion of Italians still hold a candle for, and allegedly has views depressingly shared by 50 per cent of the population of the western world, at least. I'm not defending it, I'm not saying it's OK, but the fact is that Italian politics is a very strange world on a personal and national level that I'm guessing few of us understand. A lot of Italians are either fairly staunchly left or fairly staunchly right wing. Alberto's obviously just chosen the wrong path. But then maybe he had an uncle killed by the Briganti Rossi or his granddad was shot by the partisans. Maybe he's from a Trastevere slum rife with ethnic tensions in a country with a lot of illegal immigration, and his parents blamed the immigrants for their troubles. We don't know. I'm inclined to say that as long as he keeps his views to himself I'm not particularly fussed either way. I think if you did a political survey of most footballers the vast majority would probably hold ignorant, ill-informed views anyway. Again, I'm not saying it's right, but I suspect they don't really talk about it at training.

 

What happens when the press get hold of it? Well, the Mail and the Express will probably hail him as some kind of martyr and the Guardian will demand his immediate execution. The Independent will ask what his views on the fate of Chinese butterflies are. Besides, having right-wing sympathies has hardly hurt Fabio Capello, has it?

 

Right wing sympathies, is that why Beckh....

 

Oh, shit, I've already done that joke

 

Agree with you though, but don't expect the usual suspects to take any notice

[Unrighteous]

Nationalism and racism aren't the same.

 

 

"Nihilists! Fuck me. I mean, say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos."

[RedinSweden]

There's a subtle difference, he might hate all immigrants, regardless of race. An equal opportunities bigot, if you like. 21st century progress, that.

 

I don't think it is that subtle at all. If you want to look at it coldly, and people have already mentioned Ryan Babel, the difference would be that he doesn't have a problem with him at all. Or Yossi Benayoun for that matter.

 

All this is based on a tiny little snippet anyway. As long as he doesn't start doing fascist salutes and mouthing off any unsavoury views he might hold, then I'm fine with him.

[Whelan]

And another thing, a lot of people want the club to be sold to DIC, the very same country which refuses to allow Jews (possibly just Israelis) to enter the country!

 

Fair enough if he comes in blacked up, saying 'where am dat waty melon' maybe we might have a problem on our hands! But at the moment he just has an unhealthy fondness for a (deceased) former president!

[Guest Ulysses Everett McGill]

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Edited August 5, 2009 by Ulysses Everett McGill

[Troubadour]

As long as he doesn't start doing fascist salutes and mouthing off any unsavoury views he might hold, then I'm fine with him.

 

"Alberto, what are you doing?"

"I do a salute, no?"

"But that's not OK in this country."

"But Fernando, he do it, when he score. He slide on his knee, he raise his arm to show love of il duce, no?"

[Redder Lurtz]

A lot of knee jerking, generalism and plain wrongness in this thread. Suits the FF well.