This needs to be nipped in the bud...

[Anubis]

Brownie, absolutely spot on. I'm absolutely fed up of the whining little shits who are more interested in their particular poster boys than the good of the club. Dave (and I dare say you and I) has an opinion about Rafa based on more than fan worship.

 

I love watching people whine about people who support Rafa jumping on them, yet are busy doing the same in their own posts. It really does make me laugh.

[Brownie]

I love watching people whine about people who support Rafa jumping on them, yet are busy doing the same in their own posts. It really does make me laugh.

 

Not as much as I enjoy laughing at the people who point out that those who whinge at the people who whinge at Rafa are actually whinging as well.

 

Or something.

[rebel23]

I'm not very comfortable with the situation at all. Rafa is obviously siding with Hicks because he wants a new contract and more control etc but on the flipside that means Ian Ayres in, Hicks in full control, Alonso sold with Barry replacing him, supplemented by Emile Heskey up front.

 

I think i'm gonna be sick.

 

meanwhile 'Arry is putting offers of £14m for Bellamy, I love the way you assume a new manager would be exactly in line with what you want. most of them are a lot worse than Rafa when it comes to buying players (remember GH?!)

[Anubis]

Oh yeah, and go back to Dave's original posts. Despite the fact he doesn't point the finger at Benitez for the GB article and states that in his post, look at the posts following it from the people who don't like Rafa. They put the boot in anyway. But it's always the pro-Benitez brigade, eh Stringvest. Yeah, right.

[RedKnight]

What's everyone arguing about now? I read Dave's post then fucked off.

[Brownie]

meanwhile 'Arry is putting offers of £14m for Bellamy, I love the way you assume a new manager would be exactly in line with what you want. most of them are a lot worse than Rafa when it comes to buying players

 

I wouldn't expect a manager to do everything I want, and i'm not arrogant enough to complain if he doesn't. Emile Heskey though, is totally different. As is potentially selling your player of the year and replacing him with an older one who's never played in the CL.

 

As for Bellamy, Rafa's already actually done what 'Arry was proposing so I don't get your point.

[JMARKH]

I'm not very comfortable with the situation at all. Rafa is obviously siding with Hicks because he wants a new contract and more control etc but on the flipside that means Ian Ayres in, Hicks in full control, Alonso sold with Barry replacing him, supplemented by Emile Heskey up front.

 

I think i'm gonna be sick.

 

I'm not sure he'll sell Alonso, he may still bring in Barry if Villa miss out on champions league but after the way Alonso has performed this season I would hope he will stay. Heskey didn't do anything to warrant a move back here and if this Kuwait deal comes off then hopefully we can look higher up the market.

[RedKnight]

He sells Xabi and I ain't gonna play no more.

[s@int]

While at one time transfers were simple easily arranged affairs. You offered £3million and if it was accepted bingo you had a new player, today transfers are much more complex, you have to take into account exchange rates, image rights,contract clauses,bonuses, part payment or payment in full, and the commercial value of purchasing a player. Now while these issues will have little interest for the average fan or even Benitez they can have a huge impact on the value of a player.

 

i.e. buying Barry from a midlands club is hardly likely to have any great impact commercially, while buying Keane from Spurs could have a huge impact in Ireland.

 

Maybe Parry was more receptive to the Keane transfer because Liverpool have just opened a shop in Ireland?

[Dougie Do'ins]

I'm not sure he'll sell Alonso, he may still bring in Barry if Villa miss out on champions league but after the way Alonso has performed this season I would hope he will stay. Heskey didn't do anything to warrant a move back here and if this Kuwait deal comes off then hopefully we can look higher up the market.

He will sell Alonso.

[rebel23]

I wouldn't expect a manager to do everything I want, and i'm not arrogant enough to complain if he doesn't. Emile Heskey though, is totally different. As is potentially selling your player of the year and replacing him with an older one who's never played in the CL.

 

As for Bellamy, Rafa's already actually done what 'Arry was proposing so I don't get your point.

 

we never paid £14m though and we got our money back!

[JMARKH]

He will sell Alonso.

 

I hope your wrong! I've changed my stance, I backed Rafa in the summer but if he sold him now I couldn't see the logic behind it.

[Unrighteous]

He will sell Alonso.

 

After Alonso's form this year? Will he fuck.

[RedKnight]

Mick knows, literally.

[Brownie]

we never paid £14m though and we got our money back!

 

Still bought him though so obviously still rated him. Hence it was a bit of a daft point to make, IMO.

[Section_31]

While at one time transfers were simple easily arranged affairs. You offered £3million and if it was accepted bingo you had a new player, today transfers are much more complex, you have to take into account exchange rates, image rights,contract clauses,bonuses, part payment or payment in full, and the commercial value of purchasing a player. Now while these issues will have little interest for the average fan or even Benitez they can have a huge impact on the value of a player.

 

i.e. buying Barry from a midlands club is hardly likely to have any great impact commercially, while buying Keane from Spurs could have a huge impact in Ireland.

 

Maybe Parry was more receptive to the Keane transfer because Liverpool have just opened a shop in Ireland?

 

 

Superb lurkage.

[Brownie]

People should listen to the information that he gets, this 'm.c.'.

 

You can't touch it...

 

 

*coughs*

[stringvest]

Oh yeah, and go back to Dave's original posts. Despite the fact he doesn't point the finger at Benitez for the GB article and states that in his post, look at the posts following it from the people who don't like Rafa. They put the boot in anyway. But it's always the pro-Benitez brigade, eh Stringvest. Yeah, right.

 

No, not always. But usually. I'm actually not anti-Rafa. I am though anti his behaviour lately. Anyone who doesn't believe his stream of public pronouncements has not affected the performance of the team and the attitude of team members towards him is more than deluded. I don't want him sacked, but I do want him to shut the fuck up and spend his energy trying to get the team to improve, or ideally to play to somewhere near its potential. Something he hasn't managed to do all season.

[Malarkey]

After Alonso's form this year? Will he fuck.

 

This Mick also knows. He will sell Xabi. He wanted him gone last summer. And with the form he's hitting this season, is only inflating his value.

[Spy Bee]

We don't want him to go to Madrid, we said Al - on - so!

 

(That Winehouse bird yeah!)

[Unrighteous]

Believe m.c. Lance

 

We've got to be looking for £20m+ on this seasons form... He's been probably the top performer in the prem, IMO.

 

I can't imagine him justifying it, though.

[Juan Galonso]

If it is a choice between Rafa leaving or Xabi in the summer. Goodbye Rafa. Good Luck.

[Tom R]

Rafa/Yanks/Parry* in self-serving, fucking gob shite embarassment to our great name shocker!!

 

 

*delete as appropriate or depending on what day it is

[FrenchEyeGlass]

Oh god, how many bastards do i count?

 

People here despise rafa?

 

People are ashamed of our football?

 

Yak.

 

The biggest set of ungrateful, kneejerk, clueless tossers iv ever met.

 

Rafa held this club together when the yanks were going to rip us apart with debt.

 

Now you despise him?

 

Rafa bought us the first major trophy since 1990.

 

Now hes a coward cunt

 

If mancs read this threat they would piss themselves

 

Yak.

[FrenchEyeGlass]

PS...

 

YOU CLUELESS SET OF BLIND TWATS (if there is such a thing)

 

RAFA only wanted to get rid of XABI because he had no fucking funds

 

GUESS WHY

 

because coco had already decided that KEANE was worth 20m, whilst barry was only worth 18m IF RAFA PAID FOR 14M OF IT.

 

THIS IS WHY HE WANTS HIM OUT.

 

i swear to god, some days i think how the hell are liverpool fans so stupid

 

If it was rafas way in the summer, it would be barry in, keane a maybe. its pretty godamn obvious.