Ibrahima Konate

[magicrat]

It does seem odd the club's response to losing an army of CB's through injury is to buy an injury prone CB. Am i missing something ?

[Barrington Womble]

1 hour ago, Sugar Ape said:

He’s the new Gomez who himself is the new Matip. 
 

 

i can't get my head around this? 40m for a fella who can't play? are we that lazy at negotiating that he is a shortlist of one of centre backs with release clauses we can afford? this is fucking nuts. 

[Guest]

He likes a torn muscle fibre. Almost a year out with it. What could possibly go wrong? Still, the silver lining is we could use the code FRESHNEW5035 and get a discount.

[Sugar Ape]

9 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

i can't get my head around this? 40m for a fella who can't play? are we that lazy at negotiating that he is a shortlist of one of centre backs with release clauses we can afford? this is fucking nuts. 

If you take the torn muscle fibre out then his record isn’t bad so I can only assume they think that’s a one off injury unlikely to reoccur. I know fuck all about those injuries though (or injuries in general to be be fair), is that a common one for footballers? Anyone know of any LFC players in recent history with something similar as a comparison?

[No2]

What is torn muscle fibre? Who do we know that's had that injury? How many times has Joel had it?

[Jairzinho]

8 minutes ago, Sugar Ape said:

If you take the torn muscle fibre out then his record isn’t bad so I can only assume they think that’s a one off injury unlikely to reoccur. I know fuck all about those injuries though (or injuries in general to be be fair), is that a common one for footballers? Anyone know of any LFC players in recent history with something similar as a comparison?

Torres. Although he was out for about a month each time, not a year.

 

https://www.transfermarkt.us/fernando-torres/verletzungen/spieler/7767

[Supremolad]

Sigh. A lot of whining already. True, the injury record is a bit worrying but it is actually not as bad as it looks on paper. And at least, the club is finally showing some intent to rectify their lack of action over CBs this season.

 

Let's remember, FSG pulled the plug on the Fekir deal due to injury concerns. Do we seriously believe they would sanction a 40m euro fee if they believed they were signing another Matip in Konate?

 

And also, let's not forget we did sign Van Dijk shortly after he recovered from a significant injury and a long spell out at Southampton.

[Barrington Womble]

[Paulie Dangerously]

Maybe we're planning to splice them together to make a footballer who can play more than 2 games in a row 

[Jose Jones]

25 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

i can't get my head around this? 40m for a fella who can't play? are we that lazy at negotiating that he is a shortlist of one of centre backs with release clauses we can afford? this is fucking nuts. 

Maybe we’re thinking we’ll send Keita back the other way? 

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

Top top player been mentioning him for years. The injuries though.

[Barrington Womble]

11 minutes ago, Sugar Ape said:

If you take the torn muscle fibre out then his record isn’t bad so I can only assume they think that’s a one off injury unlikely to reoccur. I know fuck all about those injuries though (or injuries in general to be be fair), is that a common one for footballers? Anyone know of any LFC players in recent history with something similar as a comparison?

I am guessing the torn muscle fibre is not the same injury and it is in different places? maybe anyway, i have never heard of it before, so assuming it is some translation shit. if it's the same injury and he has had it 3 times in less than 2 seasons, one of which an injury as long as VVD and the other as long (if not longer) than the injury Jota has just had, all in the space of 18 months - and with a small one in between?! wow! 18/19 is the only season he has played a high number of games in his career - he has been with RBL for 4 years, despite being just 21. i just can't get my head around how that isn't a problem. 

 

honestly, it feels to me the 1 certainty we need from a centre back next season is they'll likely be fit. with our 2 glass backs and VVD likely picking up small injuries as players do coming back from ACLs, I would like the player we sign to have a bit of a decent fitness track record. 

[Rotpeter]

Surely, it's this guy or Kabak for the 4th spot.  Can't see us being able to afford both.

[Scott_M]

 

18 minutes ago, Supremolad said:

 

And also, let's not forget we did sign Van Dijk shortly after he recovered from a significant injury and a long spell out at Southampton.

 

Was about to say the same thing. 
 

I’ve seen him play but he sounds like he ticks all the boxes. 
 

Chris Williams discounting some the injuries puts a different light on some things. 

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

Torn muscle fibre can be due to over stretching or strained due to too much weight. Apparently.

[El Rojo]

Our recruitment record when we actually spend money has generally been remarkable in recent years. I reckon the relevant people have done the right research if we are after this lad. 

 

If money is as limited as we're all predicting, I'd still rather be spending what we have further up the pitch and maybe keeping Kabak, though. 

[Scott_M]

42 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

i can't get my head around this? 40m for a fella who can't play? are we that lazy at negotiating that he is a shortlist of one of centre backs with release clauses we can afford? this is fucking nuts. 

In the last few seasons, where have we seen that? 

[Scott_M]

I’m obviously no injury specialist so throwing this out there, could the injuries be a result of his body growing?
 

Didn’t Gerrard go through similar issues at age? 

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

Kabak was being quoted at 30m plus last year and we could get Konate on a HP deal due to the injuries. 0% apr.

[dockers_strike]

Interesting development. Will be even more interesting to see what happens to Davies and Kabak if this deal goes through.

[Strontium]

Our medical centre is going to need to adopt a squad rotation system.

[Trumo]

I'm not sure I've ever seen Konate play but even though Upamecano has all the hype, a lot of people are suggesting that Konate is the better player. He shares the same physical and athletic attributes as his fellow Frenchman at Leipzig, but is apparently less reliant on them so is less 'showy' because his game is more about correct positioning. A lot of Upamecano's work seems to be last-ditch because his positioning is suspect, much like Kyle Walker or Aaron Wan-Bissaka.

 

If we sign him, he could buck the trend for players we sign by turning from a perma-crock into the most durable and reliable player ever. The players we've signed that spent lots of time in the physio's room didn't seem to have fitness issues at their previous clubs. The only one I can think of is Paddy B, who was in and out of the Dortmund side thanks to a series of knocks.

[TheHowieLama]

6 minutes ago, dockers_strike said:

Interesting development. Will be even more interesting to see what happens to Davies and Kabak if this deal goes through.

His fate is sealed.

[Daisy]

42 minutes ago, Supremolad said:

Sigh. A lot of whining already. True, the injury record is a bit worrying but it is actually not as bad as it looks on paper. And at least, the club is finally showing some intent to rectify their lack of action over CBs this season.

 

Let's remember, FSG pulled the plug on the Fekir deal due to injury concerns. Do we seriously believe they would sanction a 40m euro fee if they believed they were signing another Matip in Konate?

 

And also, let's not forget we did sign Van Dijk shortly after he recovered from a significant injury and a long spell out at Southampton.

We did not pull out of Fekir because of his knee. Alisson became available and it was one or the other 

[Manny]

We're obviously signing this kid (to replace Matip maybe) and Kabak, as we've got a clear CB structure at the club:

 

Konate becomes Matip, the brilliant-when-fit-but-made-of-crisps option.

 

Kabak becomes Lovren, the good-on-his-day-but-fuck-me-he-can't-half-fuck-up-sometimes option.