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2 hours ago, belarus said:

Her own son said she was mentally ill on national news? That’s a bit off isn’t it?

 

I don’t know any more about all that than she’s an ex NHS employee who is anti vaccine and lockdown isn’t she? I haven’t watched that interview either, so shooting in the dark a bit, but seems a bit shady on her that

Not at all. Better to think that your mum’s behaviour can be explained by mental illness than having to accept that these are her own sentient views

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1 hour ago, Rico1304 said:

 

Weinstein isn’t claiming it to be 100%.

 

He’s claimed near perfect. Bit of a difference. And misleading.
 

The podcast with Rogan about this was very interesting. Does raise a few questions about Pharma and all of this vaccine rush out.
 

Especially Pfizer who are getting (apparently £3k a shot) 

 

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The Dr who was on with Weinstein has written an article in response to those he feels are doubters 

 

https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/statins-for-cancer-and-covid-beyond-ivermectin/article_5bf6b964-e8b4-11eb-b738-d3afdb2bbfed.html

 

Some Valid points made in the article.

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You can't say stuff like; "this drug is near perfect" with weird studies as proof and expect objective people to take that seriously.

 

The hydroxychloroquine thing and now ivermectin thing, the people who have been pushing those drugs just don’t know how to do it. They're incredibly sensationalist about their results, and it comes across extremely cultish and conspiratorial. Now vaccine pushing has also been cultish but there's a shit load of real data around to prove their efficacy.

 

Like I'm sorry that this Bret "intellectual Dark web" Weinstein guy and his like think that everyone is against him and that big pharma dont want this cheap miracle Covid drug to be widely used, but like, stop being a fucking weirdo about it then. "The implications are both beautiful and horrifying". Relax, you fanny.

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22 hours ago, Iceman said:

Pittsburgh VA: Pfizer And Moderna Vaccinations More Than 95% Effective At Preventing Infection

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/pittsburgh-va-pfizer-and-moderna-vaccinations-more-than-95-25-effective-at-preventing-infection/ar-AAMsTaT

 

New research from the Pittsburgh VA has found the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are more than 95% effective at preventing infection.

That's interesting, as it seems we're nowhere near that here. I'm also just watching this week's John Oliver and he claimed 97% of USA hospitalisations are unvaccinated people. We're not close to that are we? Is this a reflection of the AZ vaccine v moderns and Pfizer? Maybe @thehowielama (the at not working, which probably means I don't know his name!) knows? 

33 minutes ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

Weinstein isn’t claiming it to be 100%.

 

He’s claimed near perfect. Bit of a difference. And misleading.
 

The podcast with Rogan about this was very interesting. Does raise a few questions about Pharma and all of this vaccine rush out.
 

Especially Pfizer who are getting (apparently £3k a shot) 

 

Where did that number come from? I thought it was about $15 a dose depending how well your country negotiated. 

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Weinstein also thought that Epstein wasn’t a real person and was a character made up to facilitate kiddy fiddling.  The bloke is obviously clever, but bat shit fucking crazy. 
 

All the things they demand of the vaccine, they are willing to forego for things that aren’t the vaccine. 

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(apparently) another of the edgelord claims that can be quickly backed away from when it’s proved wrong. But for some people may add to the ‘weight’ of evidence that vaccines  are bad. It’s shite, really fucking shite. 
 

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The easiest way to get all these nutters to take the vaccine is to tell them they can’t have it, that they’ve been put on a list and the government and the Jews and lizards have decided they shouldn’t have it. 
 

2 days - all done. 

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1 hour ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

Weinstein isn’t claiming it to be 100%.

 

He’s claimed near perfect. Bit of a difference. And misleading.
 

The podcast with Rogan about this was very interesting. Does raise a few questions about Pharma and all of this vaccine rush out.
 

Especially Pfizer who are getting (apparently £3k a shot) 

 

Did you also get paid?

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-57928647

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3 hours ago, Champ said:

Not at all. Better to think that your mum’s behaviour can be explained by mental illness than having to accept that these are her own sentient views

Yeah, see where you’re coming from, but going on tv to tell the world is next level.

 

Do you think they will Christmas together this year?

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41 minutes ago, belarus said:

Yeah, see where you’re coming from, but going on tv to tell the world is next level.

 

Do you think they will Christmas together this year?

He’s probably sick of eating tofu for Christmas Dinner instead of Turkey because “the Turkey has a micro chip in it to track us honey”.

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19 minutes ago, belarus said:

Yeah, see where you’re coming from, but going on tv to tell the world is next level.

 

Do you think they will Christmas together this year?

I’ve no idea how he ended up being interviewed or whether family members are routinely approached for their opinions but I didn’t pick up anything in what he said that he was anything other than completely at a loss to understand what she is doing 

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10 hours ago, Barrington Womble said:

That's interesting, as it seems we're nowhere near that here. I'm also just watching this week's John Oliver and he claimed 97% of USA hospitalisations are unvaccinated people. We're not close to that are we? Is this a reflection of the AZ vaccine v moderns and Pfizer? Maybe @thehowielama (the at not working, which probably means I don't know his name!) knows? 

Where did that number come from? I thought it was about $15 a dose depending how well your country negotiated. 

I’ve heard and read it a few times from different sources. Also heard higher figures. That’s why I said apparently as I am not as convinced it’s that high myself, but it would be no surprise if it was. 
 

I understand people wanting and getting this vaccine. I understand why people don’t want it at all, and those who are waiting for a longer period of time to pass before getting it. 
 

What I don’t get myself is the massive trust in these big pharmaceuticals when you can see how much they have had to pay out in compensation over the years. That’s enough for me to delay getting it and  till respecting others by following mask guidelines etc, as and where required. Wait to see how the vaccine works long term (more than the 12 months so far) and how the virus plays then get it. There are still figures I’d like to see around blood types, health history, sex, weight, lifestyles etc.
 

Suppose one of the main questions I have is that what is it that it is making it overcome a specific persons immune system in the way it has? I don’t see why the issue is with wanting to know stuff like that before getting it.
 

With that information we then we can look at better ways in how we can look to improve the health of the world with that information, rather than just keep allowing people to get sick and throw medicines at everyone. Work with people to improve their own health & wellbeing and that would reduce the need to have a reliance on medicines, but still have the vaccines available because they will be needed by a large percentage of the worlds population. 


Gone off track a bit there.

 

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11 hours ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

Weinstein isn’t claiming it to be 100%.

 

He’s claimed near perfect. Bit of a difference. And misleading.
 

The podcast with Rogan about this was very interesting. Does raise a few questions about Pharma and all of this vaccine rush out.
 

Especially Pfizer who are getting (apparently £3k a shot) 

 

 

 

This dude has managed to get a leaked copy of a Pfizer contract, detailed in the thread. Doesn't specify what jurisdiction it applies to (edit - Albania) but $12 seems to be a figure with $19 mentioned for Israel. Some of the small print is mouthwatering if you're a Pfizer/Biontech shareholder. 

 

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1419653002818990085.html

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36 minutes ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

I’ve heard and read it a few times from different sources. Also heard higher figures. That’s why I said apparently as I am not as convinced it’s that high myself, but it would be no surprise if it was. 
 

I understand people wanting and getting this vaccine. I understand why people don’t want it at all, and those who are waiting for a longer period of time to pass before getting it. 
 

What I don’t get myself is the massive trust in these big pharmaceuticals when you can see how much they have had to pay out in compensation over the years. That’s enough for me to delay getting it and  till respecting others by following mask guidelines etc, as and where required. Wait to see how the vaccine works long term (more than the 12 months so far) and how the virus plays then get it. There are still figures I’d like to see around blood types, health history, sex, weight, lifestyles etc.
 

Suppose one of the main questions I have is that what is it that it is making it overcome a specific persons immune system in the way it has? I don’t see why the issue is with wanting to know stuff like that before getting it.
 

With that information we then we can look at better ways in how we can look to improve the health of the world with that information, rather than just keep allowing people to get sick and throw medicines at everyone. Work with people to improve their own health & wellbeing and that would reduce the need to have a reliance on medicines, but still have the vaccines available because they will be needed by a large percentage of the worlds population. 


Gone off track a bit there.

 

Where would we be if everyone decided to hold off having a vaccine until seeing the bigger picture?

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26 minutes ago, A Red said:

Where would we be if everyone decided to hold off having a vaccine until seeing the bigger picture?

I think the word you are looking for is ‘dead’.  I for one think that the massive uptick in life expectancy across the world has nothing to do with vaccines and medicine.  If people had just tried harder in the Middle Ages the plague would have been nothing more than a flu.  
 

Fucking hell. 

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2 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

I think the word you are looking for is ‘dead’.  I for one think that the massive uptick in life expectancy across the world has nothing to do with vaccines and medicine.  If people had just tried harder in the Middle Ages the plague would have been nothing more than a flu.  
 

Fucking hell. 

What relevance has the Middle Ages got to do with anything. 
 

 

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1 minute ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

What relevance has the Middle Ages got to do with anything. 
 

 

Well that was a time with no medicines or vaccines, and all the people had were quackery and prayer to rely on.  Didn’t work out too well for anyone really.  
 

It’s a testament to

how stupid we are as a species that we’ve got homeopathy and reiki accepted and vaccines considered too dangerous to uses.  Vaccines taken by hundreds of millions of people.  

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10 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

Well that was a time with no medicines or vaccines, and all the people had were quackery and prayer to rely on.  Didn’t work out too well for anyone really.  
 

It’s a testament to

how stupid we are as a species that we’ve got homeopathy and reiki accepted and vaccines considered too dangerous to uses.  Vaccines taken by hundreds of millions of people.  


God forbid anyone makes decision on how to live their own life.

 

Whats the world coming to.

 

And that article just stokes the ever growing fire of division in society. Be less kind? If you want to be like that, then feel free. That’s not he world I am choosing to live in.

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15 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

Well that was a time with no medicines or vaccines, and all the people had were quackery and prayer to rely on.  Didn’t work out too well for anyone really.  
 

It’s a testament to

how stupid we are as a species that we’ve got homeopathy and reiki accepted and vaccines considered too dangerous to uses.  Vaccines taken by hundreds of millions of people.  

Loads still survived though without the vaccines. Just like loads did last year too. Still doesn’t bring any relevance to your obtuseness.

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3 minutes ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

Loads still survived though without the vaccines. Just like loads did last year too. Still doesn’t bring any relevance to your obtuseness.

As ever, I can’t understand it for you.  

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