Loris Karius

[clangers]

He's at the height of his respective profession and paid vast sums for delivery, he's failed spectacularly. Deal with it. Most other people who screwed up in their jobs as he has would now be signing on rather than complaining about it and sending uploads to Instagram.

 

His response has been largely to make it clear he can't take responsibility for his position and seems to view himself as a victim.

[an tha]

I've considered his future on many occasions... torn apart by rampaging wildebeest is my current favourite.

Bummed dead hard by Purple Aki and the whole of B wing at Walton nick is my current favourite.

[Denny Crane]

I do think 95% goalkeepers are blagging a living. Not that they aren't professional people and don't work hard but the difference between the great ones and good ones compared to the palookas is massive.

 

Anyone who has played football with outfield players who played at a professional level even a fourth division player the gulf in quality with your pub player is huge. With keepers it isn't whilst the position is bigly important the skill level required isn't comparable to outfield players.

 

If you have a kid who likes football and he's not very good just get him to train hard on being a keeper and if he is the right height and physique he might be able blag a living somewhere in the game.

 

Basically Mignolet, Jones, Bogdan and Karius are closer in quality to the TLW 7 aside goalkeeper than to say Buffon. I also think no-one has a clue how to pick a goalkeeper not just us. For example people point to Karius purple patch but lots of players lower down the food chain have purple patches for a myriad of reasons. I also think some supporters judge a keeper on the results a team is getting. So if the results aren't shit shit he can't be that bad but that's we ended up with Mignolet for so long.

 

The club ran some sort of financial experiment over the past five years. Spend as little as possible on the goalkeepers and see what impact it has on the team. It predated Klopp eventually on the biggest stage it was evident for all to see and there was no hiding place which many supporters had been saying for ages. The penny dropped too late but hopefully Alisson does the job and no-one can accuse the club of not laying out. Glad the experiment is over at long last.

[Harry Squatter]

Were I famous, I would not have a social media account at all.

 

It blows my mind that these players will have instagram and twitter and shit. Fuck it all off.

That swimmer Rebecca Adlington had a Twatter account and moaned that everyone called her moonface and said she was ugly. She did a big article in the Daily Mirror but then still kept her Twatter account. More people gave her abuse because they knew they would get a reaction from her.

 

Some people open 5 or 6 blag account simply to abuse people then just move onto another one after they get blocked.

[El Dangerous]

People should maybe not be twats to people on social media. Obviously it's still ok to be a cunt on here though. Especially if you don't agree with someone.

[TheHowieLama]

Den repping his own post -- quality

[Denny Crane]

So good I repped it twice.

 

*I was just checking who repped it honest*.

[lifetime fan]

That swimmer Rebecca Adlington had a Twatter account and moaned that everyone called her moonface and said she was ugly. She did a big article in the Daily Mirror but then still kept her Twatter account. More people gave her abuse because they knew they would get a reaction from her.

 

Some people open 5 or 6 blag account simply to abuse people then just move onto another one after they get blocked.

 

https://youtu.be/JrMBPVNNqVc

[VladimirIlyich]

It seems Mignolet gets better every game he doesn't play for us.

 

Simon is dog shit, Karius is a better goalkeeper but is mentally in shreds. A good portion of our own fans are twisting the knife every chance they get with this man. It's fucking disgusting quite honestly. He fucked up, he got replaced. He'll play in the league cup until the quarters or semi's if we make it that far and then possibly get the odd start in the FA cup depending on who we draw. Other than that the only way he plays is because Alisson got hurt.

An excellent post in full. I do have to add that it would make sense for all concerned if Karius was at least loaned out and we signed a short term older keeper as back up. I haven't seen anything of these friendly games but it seems to me that Karius is absolutely gone in the head.

[sir roger]

So good I repped it twice.

 

*I was just checking who repped it honest*.

 

Cheers Denny , I thought I was going loopy. Checked out a rep the other day and my name came up as repping it. When did this start being a thing ?

[VladimirIlyich]

I do think 95% goalkeepers are blagging a living. Not that they aren't professional people and don't work hard but the difference between the great ones and good ones compared to the palookas is massive.

 

Anyone who has played football with outfield players who played at a professional level even a fourth division player the gulf in quality with your pub player is huge. With keepers it isn't whilst the position is bigly important the skill level required isn't comparable to outfield players.

 

If you have a kid who likes football and he's not very good just get him to train hard on being a keeper and if he is the right height and physique he might be able blag a living somewhere in the game.

 

Basically Mignolet, Jones, Bogdan and Karius are closer in quality to the TLW 7 aside goalkeeper than to say Buffon. I also think no-one has a clue how to pick a goalkeeper not just us. For example people point to Karius purple patch but lots of players lower down the food chain have purple patches for a myriad of reasons. I also think some supporters judge a keeper on the results a team is getting. So if the results aren't shit shit he can't be that bad but that's we ended up with Mignolet for so long.

 

The club ran some sort of financial experiment over the past five years. Spend as little as possible on the goalkeepers and see what impact it has on the team. It predated Klopp eventually on the biggest stage it was evident for all to see and there was no hiding place which many supporters had been saying for ages. The penny dropped too late but hopefully Alisson does the job and no-one can accuse the club of not laying out. Glad the experiment is over at long last.

You are very wrong in most cases but you do have a bit of a point regarding goalkeeping physique,ie height being focused on over natural ability. The media's focus on outfield players alongside the footballs being made to move like beach balls in the air doesn't help either.

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

There was no pressure on him in the Dortmund game as far as I'm concerned. He new he was not going to be number one and still fucked up all he had to do. Liability.

[Aventus]

 

 

It seems Mignolet gets better every game he doesn't play for us.

 

Simon is dog shit, Karius is a better goalkeeper but is mentally in shreds. A good portion of our own fans are twisting the knife every chance they get with this man. It's fucking disgusting quite honestly. He fucked up, he got replaced. He'll play in the league cup until the quarters or semi's if we make it that far and then possibly get the odd start in the FA cup depending on who we draw. Other than that the only way he plays is because Alisson got hurt.

 

It's true Mingolet gets better every game he doesn't play for us, literally and figuratively.

 

After being dropped for a bit, he comes back looking like a half decent keeper, and slowly gets worse after that.

 

And he gets better in our minds because when we're watching Karius it's difficult to imagine much worse, so we imagine something slightly better, but the same argument could have been made while Simon was first choice, every game Karius didn't play we imagined him being better than he actually is.

 

 

Also I'm all for giving Karius a bit of stick, he fucked up in possibly the biggest game he's likely to have in his career, fair enough, it happens, but he's made plenty of other mistakes since then, including the social media.

 

We're a team that wants to win things, we can't do that by being detrimentally sympathetic. If picking on Karius a bit was the thing that pushed Klopp to buy Alisson then we've done a good job, I'm proud of us.

 

He's a young lad, if he puts in the graft he can recover, I just hope he does his recovering somewhere else.

[Aventus]

 

 

I do think 95% goalkeepers are blagging a living. Not that they aren't professional people and don't work hard but the difference between the great ones and good ones compared to the palookas is massive.

 

Anyone who has played football with outfield players who played at a professional level even a fourth division player the gulf in quality with your pub player is huge. With keepers it isn't whilst the position is bigly important the skill level required isn't comparable to outfield players.

 

If you have a kid who likes football and he's not very good just get him to train hard on being a keeper and if he is the right height and physique he might be able blag a living somewhere in the game.

 

Basically Mignolet, Jones, Bogdan and Karius are closer in quality to the TLW 7 aside goalkeeper than to say Buffon. I also think no-one has a clue how to pick a goalkeeper not just us. For example people point to Karius purple patch but lots of players lower down the food chain have purple patches for a myriad of reasons. I also think some supporters judge a keeper on the results a team is getting. So if the results aren't shit shit he can't be that bad but that's we ended up with Mignolet for so long.

 

The club ran some sort of financial experiment over the past five years. Spend as little as possible on the goalkeepers and see what impact it has on the team. It predated Klopp eventually on the biggest stage it was evident for all to see and there was no hiding place which many supporters had been saying for ages. The penny dropped too late but hopefully Alisson does the job and no-one can accuse the club of not laying out. Glad the experiment is over at long last.

Even if you ignore the gulf between the great/goods and the palookas there's still maybe 80% of keepers that barely play any first team football.

 

Look at any of the top teams, you might have maybe 5 keepers on the books, you'll have your number 1, your professional substitute who plays a couple of early tournament games against dross, and 3 more who might never even get that and who are basically employed by the club as training assistants so all your outfield players of various age groups have got somebody to kick a ball at when the number 1 is busy doing their own specialised training.

 

I'm still confused how we had Andy Firth at the club when he was here for more years than he had played youth level matches.

 

 

Saw a mini documentary about youth football, saying it was harsh how some of these kids can be binned off without a second thought because they aren't good enough.

Basically if there's a shortage of bodies in your position you'll stay at the club for longer than you deserve, and all the coaches will know this but wont tell you until the very end that you'll never make it there.

 

There's going you be a lot of youth centre mids, and attackers that why we tend to see some good quality, it's a rich area. Not so much with goalkeepers or left backs, but the other kids that stand a chance of making it still need you to make up the numbers, you're a piece of training equipment.

[VladimirIlyich]

 

Even if you ignore the gulf between the great/goods and the palookas there's still maybe 80% of keepers that barely play any first team football.

 

Look at any of the top teams, you might have maybe 5 keepers on the books, you'll have your number 1, your professional substitute who plays a couple of early tournament games against dross, and 3 more who might never even get that and who are basically employed by the club as training assistants so all your outfield players of various age groups have got somebody to kick a ball at when the number 1 is busy doing their own specialised training.

 

I'm still confused how we had Andy Firth at the club when he was here for more years than he had played youth level matches.

 

 

Saw a mini documentary about youth football, saying it was harsh how some of these kids can be binned off without a second thought because they aren't good enough.

Basically if there's a shortage of bodies in your position you'll stay at the club for longer than you deserve, and all the coaches will know this but wont tell you until the very end that you'll never make it there.

 

There's going you be a lot of youth centre mids, and attackers that why we tend to see some good quality, it's a rich area. Not so much with goalkeepers or left backs, but the other kids that stand a chance of making it still need you to make up the numbers, you're a piece of training equipment.

The focus on playing giants in goal has allowed a few basketball players to steal a living and some genuine talent to miss out on a good career.

I've always maintained that David James was one of these type of keepers who displaced much better smaller keepers and was probably thrown in goal purely because he was so bad elsewhere on the pitch.

[Billy Big Twat]

I think the outpouring of grief and sympathy for Karius is a bit much to be honest. Whilst it's obviously very unfortunate that he's fucked up beyond compare on the biggest night of his life, the fact is he fucked up. He's still a very handsomely paid man with a lifestyle we can only dream of, he'd probably shagged three models in the time between making the mistake and some poor sods trekking home from Kiev on a bus.

 

I really don't give a shit if some children tell him he's shit under one of his glazed eyes, dreamy selfies on twitter. I hope he is sold by the club because he is fucking crap and i never have to hear about him again. 

[Russ Atmosphere]

The core triad made an error purchasing this gloveman.

[setreal]

I like the cut of Billy Big Twat's jib. 

[moof]

I think the outpouring of grief and sympathy for Karius is a bit much to be honest. Whilst it's obviously very unfortunate that he's fucked up beyond compare on the biggest night of his life, the fact is he fucked up. He's still a very handsomely paid man with a lifestyle we can only dream of, he'd probably shagged three models in the time between making the mistake and some poor sods trekking home from Kiev on a bus.

 

I really don't give a shit if some children tell him he's shit under one of his glazed eyes, dreamy selfies on twitter. I hope he is sold by the club because he is fucking crap and i never have to hear about him again.

It’s not an outpouring of grief. It’s empathy for a human, a Liverpool player, who made an honest mistake and has suffered a wildly excessive backlash of abuse and death threats.

 

He’s not good enough right now for where we’re going. He’s been replaced. That should be the end of it.

[Billy Big Twat]

I think it's gone beyond a bit of empathy, you've got whoppers like Casillas stepping in as if the lad is being mercilously bullied, dog shit left on his door step, spat at in the street.

 

All he's getting is people posting pictures of Alisson and telling him he's shit. So what? He's a grown man. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

I think it's gone beyond a bit of empathy, you've got whoppers like Casillas stepping in as if the lad is being mercilously bullied, dog shit left on his door step, spat at in the street.

 

All he's getting is people posting pictures of Alisson and telling him he's shit. So what? He's a grown man.

It’s clearly more than that.

[Duff Man]

But even that's mental.

[Billy Big Twat]

what am I missing? he's getting a few fans ironically cheering him catching the ball, and doubtless he's receiving some nasty words and maybe even threats of physical violence from kids on insta, but surely he realises this is all nonsense? 

 

i honestly think it's all a bit silly really. he's fucking shit and people understandably have raw emotions about it because he's cost us a game we might not get to for another 15 years, just log out for a few weeks until you're playing for Koln and get on with it. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

Nasty words? A few kids? You can be dismissive about it, but he’s receiving death threads, intense criticism, and lots of scrutiny.

 

I personally just want him gone. But pretending it’s nothing is daft.

[Billy Big Twat]

if karius is receiving genuine death threats i will happily hold my hands up and say it's a disgrace, but the reality is it'll be from some kid on twitter with his username and profile picture attached to the threat, meaning it's obviously childish nonsense.

 

intense criticism is down to the fact he keeps throwing the ball into our net.