Should the UK remain a member of the EU

[Numero Veinticinco]

Just now, Bjornebye said:

NV lad you started it all now I'm the fucking issue? You over-reacted to someone else post.

Had to stop there, to be honest. If you think that was an overreaction, we're obviously not going to move on. If you think saying something is bollocks in reaction to moof calling me out for basically punishing disabled, poor, terminally ill, etc, then I'm not able to reason with you. I only reacted like that because I like moof and despite us disagreeing on a few things recently, we have always got on. It was a post that was out of line. I think it's bollocks, massive bollocks. That's what I said. If you read that as me going mental, you've read into the post. 

[Bjornebye]

1 minute ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Had to stop there, to be honest. If you think that was an overreaction, we're obviously not going to move on. If you think saying something is bollocks in reaction to moof calling me out for basically punishing disabled, poor, terminally ill, etc, then I'm not able to reason with you. I only reacted like that because I like moof and despite us disagreeing on a few things recently, we have always got on. It was a post that was out of line. I think it's bollocks, massive bollocks. That's what I said. If you read that as me going mental, you've read into the post. 

Ok sound. 

[Red Shift]

6 hours ago, Nelly-Torres said:

I think that the decision to have the vote on Johnson's deal tomorrow is bordering on undemocratic. 

 

We're a parliamentary democracy. Parliament are elected to make decisions on our behalf. Informed decisions. They've had nowhere near sufficient enough time to give the deal full scrutiny. They aren't going to have sight of impact assessments re: this new deal. 

 

Tomorrow's vote isn't really one of voting based on the merits and implications of the deal. It's a vote tinged by fear. Of voting for the deal to potentially avoid a no deal Brexit. The MPs need to hold their nerve. 

Either the Tories are pulling the biggest bluff in politics, or there really is a loophole in the Benn Act

[Captain Turdseye]

WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE

[Red Shift]

1 minute ago, Captain Turdseye said:

WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE

Well, that’s a given.

[Bjornebye]

Melanie Onn now going to vote for the deal and has come out calling it 'brave' for Labour MP's to do so. 

 

Dreading tomorrow 

[Red Shift]

11 hours ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

What new Treaty?

Oh, sorry. The ‘deal’

[ZonkoVille77]

So Brexit, eh?

Not easy to masturbate to. 

[sir roger]

Bet Victor going 8/13 the deal passing , 11/8 against it failing.

Very worrying.

 

I think the Labour whips and Corbyn need to start with the thumbscrews. A kinder politics is fine but letting your country go to shit rather than confronting people is unacceptable. Let’s see if the Labour rebels worry quite so much about their constituents Brexit rights. If it means they won’t get a chance to stand again as a Labour candidate.

[Bjornebye]

1 minute ago, sir roger said:

Bet Victor going 8/13 the deal passing , 11/8 against it failing.

Very worrying.

 

I think the Labour whips and Corbyn need to start with the thumbscrews. A kinder politics is fine but letting your country go to shit rather than confronting people is unacceptable. Let’s see if the Labour rebels worry quite so much about their constituents Brexit rights. If it means they won’t get a chance to stand again as a Labour candidate.

Similar across the board....

 

https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/brexit/house-of-commons-to-vote-through-withdrawal-agreement-on-october-19th

[Chocoholic]

That gobshite Ronnie Campbell was on Ch4 news and actually said that he wouldn't trust the tries on workers' rights. So why in the fuck is the imbecile going to vote for the deal tomorrow, then? 

[Sugar Ape]

44 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Read what I said back you fucking muppet. 

 

And we both know that is absolute bollocks. 2 people , and one of them has only been in the last 2 days because he is arguing with everyone. Now fuck off. 

No. 
 

Looks like De Piero is gearing up to vote with the Tories too. I think this will definitely pass now, too many Labour MPs giving bad vibes out over it. Looks like this Letwin amendment could be the thing to, if not stop, then temper it if it gets enough votes.

 

 

[magicrat]

4 minutes ago, sir roger said:

Bet Victor going 8/13 the deal passing , 11/8 against it failing.

Very worrying.

 

I think the Labour whips and Corbyn need to start with the thumbscrews. A kinder politics is fine but letting your country go to shit rather than confronting people is unacceptable. Let’s see if the Labour rebels worry quite so much about their constituents Brexit rights. If it means they won’t get a chance to stand again as a Labour candidate.

It all depends now on the Letwin amendment. If selected by Bercow ( inconceivable he wont) then it could pass in name only but subsequently require a further vote to pass it into law. You then get the Benn act kicking in. 

[Sugar Ape]

7 minutes ago, sir roger said:

Bet Victor going 8/13 the deal passing , 11/8 against it failing.

Very worrying.

 

I think the Labour whips and Corbyn need to start with the thumbscrews. A kinder politics is fine but letting your country go to shit rather than confronting people is unacceptable. Let’s see if the Labour rebels worry quite so much about their constituents Brexit rights. If it means they won’t get a chance to stand again as a Labour candidate.

 

4 minutes ago, Chocoholic said:

That gobshite Ronnie Campbell was on Ch4 news and actually said that he wouldn't trust the tries on workers' rights. So why in the fuck is the imbecile going to vote for the deal tomorrow, then? 

They should have the whip withdrawn and be told they can’t stand as a Labour candidate at the impending election. Not holding my breath though. 
 

That still wouldn’t stop a small number from voting for it such as Campbell above as they’re retiring so no threats are going to work on the likes of him and Hoey.
 

Though she won’t vote for it if the DUP won’t. How she’s managed to stay a Labour MP through all of this is beyond me.

[Megadrive Man]

The odds on these sort of things don't really mean much. You could get 6/1 on the UK to vote leave the EU on the day of the referendum.

[Megadrive Man]

Just watched a video by the Brexit party. Farage looks like a broken man! They are convinced the deal will pass.

 

Farage saying, Its the second worst deal in history. Its a slight improvement on Mays deal. Its not Brexit and initially he was confident it would be voted down.

 

He is blaming Junker for saying there won't be an extension. He thinks it guarantees a second referendum.   

 

He goes on to say, He feels shell shocked and this is the worst he's felt since he started campaigning to leave the EU. 

Interestingly he says that this is the worst stage of political humiliation we have ever seen and he will go after BJ at the next election.    

[Mudface]

13 minutes ago, MegadriveMan said:

Just watched a video by the Brexit party. Farage looks like a broken man! They are convinced the deal will pass.

 

Farage saying, Its the second worst deal in history. Its a slight improvement on Mays deal. Its not Brexit and initially he was confident it would be voted down.

 

He is blaming Junker for saying there won't be an extension. He thinks it guarantees a second referendum.   

 

He goes on to say, He feels shell shocked and this is the worst he's felt since he started campaigning to leave the EU. 

Interestingly he says that this is the worst stage of political humiliation we have ever seen and he will go after BJ at the next election.    

Crocodile tears. He knows Brexit Party plc will be irrelevant if this goes through.

[Jairzinho]

What I would like to happen to any Labour MPs that vote for this probably shouldn't be written down.

 

 

[Megadrive Man]

Yeah that makes sense as to why he wants an extension and a general election.

[Mudface]

3 minutes ago, MegadriveMan said:

Yeah that makes sense as to why he wants an extension and a general election.

Aye, the worst thing to happen for Farage would be Brexit. No reason for his party to exist, no MEP position and he'd never win a seat in Westminster. He needs this to carry on else the gravy train stops for him.

[Megadrive Man]

I suppose there is a small crumb of comfort if Brexit means Farage wasting 25 years of his life to not get the Brexit he wants and his two bit party being made redundant before their first election!

[Bjornebye]

3 minutes ago, MegadriveMan said:

I suppose there is a small crumb of comfort if Brexit means Farage wasting 25 years of his life to not get the Brexit he wants and his two bit party being made redundant before their first election!

Fuck him. Its the rest of us I'm concerned about. He was redundant as a voice a long time ago. if he ever even had one to begin with. Just some pissed up racist wanker spouting off on the telly and twitting into the ground at force in a helicopter. 

[Carradona]

The DUP

 

*shakes head*

[Bjornebye]

 

 

 

[Mudface]

This is starting to feel like the decision to go into Iraq. Everyone knew it was wrong and based on lies, no one could believe the government could be so stupid and yet enough cynical bastards and useful idiots went along with it to allow it to happen. You can only hope that, just as Iraq destroyed the Labour vote, this will destroy the Tories.