Is Dirk Kuyt a Liverpool legend*?

[BCM]

Dirk is a top player, the ultimate big game player, scored so many important goals.

 

His interview after the game yesterday was class too, was all "We" and "Our" he still loves the place.

[El Rojo]

5-5.

 

Some good attacking play, but that defence is an absolute disgrace.

[G Richards]

Not sure what I said in this thread before, or how I voted, but it all boils down to how we view the word “legend.” Is it something to be used sparingly, for the very best players? Or is it a word to be used to describe a decent/good player for whom the fans have affection, because they ‘get’ the club, work hard, and so on?

 

If the former, Kuyt falls short. The legend monicker would be reserved for Kenny, Rush, Barnes, Souness, Hansen, Gerrard, etc.

 

If the latter, Kuyt is a legend. He was a good player who had big moments, always worked hard, and definitely got what it meant to play for Liverpool.

 

Maybe the word legend is a bit like “world class.” It can be debated because the term is imprecise?

[El Rojo]

[G Richards]

I really wanted the Scottish lad (forget his name now) to work out in central defence, as we have a great history of Scots in the position, but he wasn’t in that sort of class.

 

When I see that picture it’s amazing to think that’s where we were just a few years ago.

[Grinch]

I really wanted the Scottish lad (forget his name now) to work out in central defence, as we have a great history of Scots in the position, but he wasn’t in that sort of class.

 

When I see that picture it’s amazing to think that’s where we were just a few years ago.

Danny Wilson. No idea where he ended up.

[lifetime fan]

Danny Wilson. No idea where he ended up.

 

Back at rangers last I heard and they thought he was better before he left.

[El Rojo]

I really wanted the Scottish lad (forget his name now) to work out in central defence, as we have a great history of Scots in the position, but he wasn’t in that sort of class.

 

When I see that picture it’s amazing to think that’s where we were just a few years ago.

 

Something new annoys me about that picture every time. Today, it's the way Joe Cole's waistband is halfway up his ribcage.

[TheDrowningMan]

Back at rangers last I heard and they thought he was better before he left.

He moved to Colorado Rapids in the MLS at the end of January. Only just 26, too.

[Fowler1972]

Cult hero maybe, legend no.

[Red House]

When I see that picture it’s amazing to think that’s where we were just a few years ago.

And it does not even include the mighty trio of Konchesky, Poulsen and Brad Jones. What a summer that was.

[Jay86]

Cult hero maybe, legend no.

This

[Jose Jones]

More of a cult legend for me.

[Jairzinho]

Cult hero maybe, legend no.

 

This

 

Negged.

 

Pair of cults.

[Fowler1972]

Negged.

 

Pair of cults.

Kenny Dalglish = Legend

Steven Gerrard = Legend

Ian Rush = Legend

 

One or two others of this ilk = Legend

 

Dirk Kuyt = Good player, seemed a great guy. Liked him but not a legend. You’d need a better first touch to be one of them for a start.

[KMD7]

Dirk - Leg

[Jairzinho]

Kenny Dalglish = Legend

Steven Gerrard = Legend

Ian Rush = Legend

 

One or two others of this ilk = Legend

 

Dirk Kuyt = Good player, seemed a great guy. Liked him but not a legend. You’d need a better first touch to be one of them for a start.

 

That isn't the reason you were negged.

 

He isn't a fucking cult hero. The Greek was a cult hero. Biscan was a cult hero. 

 

Someone that scores 71 goals for the club, often in the biggest of games, from wide right, is not a cult hero. Someone with over a hundred caps for Holland is not a cult hero. Anywhere. 

 

He obviously doesn't belong to be in the group of players you listed, but he is was an excellent player for the club and doesn't deserved the patronising description of "cult hero".

[Fowler1972]

That isn't the reason you were negged.

 

He isn't a fucking cult hero. The Greek was a cult hero. Biscan was a cult hero.

 

Someone that scores 71 goals for the club, often in the biggest of games, from wide right, is not a cult hero. Someone with over a hundred caps for Holland is not a cult hero. Anywhere.

 

He obviously doesn't belong to be in the group of players you listed, but he is was an excellent player for the club and doesn't deserved the patronising description of "cult hero".

I don’t use the description to be patronising. He was clearly a better player than those you list but perhaps the parameters for the ‘cult hero’ group are broader than those for our few genuine ‘legends’. For example, I’d have Dirk Kuyt up there at the same level of cult hero as Joey Jones who won a European Cup.

 

If you want to suggest another group that sits between the two currently under discussion then go for it. It may make me change my assessment.

[ZonkoVille77]

He's a Legend in my books.

And that's all that matters to me.

[El Rojo]

Dirk’s first touch for us was great. Came on as a sub against West Ham, got the ball and hit it hard as he could from about 45 yards out. Over and wide, but refreshingly ballsy and direct.

[Pureblood]

Excellent player for us.  If you don't understand this, you're a stupid fucking cunt. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

I fucking love Dirk. Quality player, quality guy.

[suzy]

I fucking love Dirk. Quality player, quality guy.

And he loves us

[VladimirIlyich]

That isn't the reason you were negged.

 

He isn't a fucking cult hero. The Greek was a cult hero. Biscan was a cult hero.

 

Someone that scores 71 goals for the club, often in the biggest of games, from wide right, is not a cult hero. Someone with over a hundred caps for Holland is not a cult hero. Anywhere.

 

He obviously doesn't belong to be in the group of players you listed, but he is was an excellent player for the club and doesn't deserved the patronising description of "cult hero".

'His second touch is a tackle' explains why he is a cult hero and a very good player but well short of legend status.

[cloggypop]

Feyenoord are giving him a testimonial on 27th May at De Kuip

 

https://www.feyenoord.nl/kuyt