Coates

[TheHowieLama]

Wenger managed to mix the two in his earlier and more successful years at Arsenal. Since he started to buy ball playing centre halves Arsenal have won virtually nothing.

We just need centre backs who can defend well and are also good in the air. Trying to do otherwise wont solve our current problems.

 

More to do with him letting power and pace go in that position.

[Guest LFD]

First and foremost

 

Brendan? Is that you?

[tom1000]

I'd like to see him go on loan to a prem club for the rest of the season and ready to make more of an impact next year, can't see it though with Wilson already loaned out

 

Needs 6 good games behind him, and then will see if can cut it. Does appear to lack pace tho.

[Gym Beglin]

This is up there with Assaidi as one of the weirdest player sagas at this club.

 

Aged 22, and yet he doesn't play, at all, at any level. It's ridiculous really, I mean, is he really THAT bad?

 

Of course, he has to be moving on very soon, but has anyone got any insider gossip as to what went wrong for him at the club? This Summer we're looking for two or three new centre backs, but we already have a player with tons of potential here, but we're almost certainly going to bin him in the Summer.

 

I'm not angry, or sad, about this, just fucking confused. Why no loan out even?

[TheHitman]

We refused a loan in Jan, apparently quite a few clubs were keen on him looks a bit daft not to see how he fared elsewhere. I assume the club didn't want to leave themselves short.

[PaulMcC]

I thought he was good when he played last season. Another case of Rodgers not fancying a player at all. He done the same with Skrtel.

[Section_31]

What little I've seen of him he appears to have no positional sense, at all.

[Captain]

What little I've seen of him he appears to have no positional sense, at all.

 

If he didn't, I doubt he'd done as well for Uruguay as he has.

[Stevie B]

Did anyone see the FA Cup tie against Oldham? Finished his - and probably Skrtel's - Liverpool careers.

 

Perhaps deservedly so.

[Strontium]

If we were going by the performance against Oldham, it would have finished everyone's Liverpool career.

 

Maybe Rodgers just doesn't like tall players? I can imagine his dossier containing pearls of wisdom like "If God had meant football to be played in the air, you'd be able to fit your head in a football boot" or somesuch nonsense.

[RedPaul]

I like Coates as a player, who's still young and could be very good - defenders tend to mature a little later. He needs game time to iron out those errors he's prone to make, like any young defender, but there's a load of potential there. Wow, remember that goal he scored last year from the edge of the box. But anyway, if the manager really doesn't rate him then get shot and give the player a chance to play elsewhere. I think it will be our loss, but there's not much point in holding on to someone we're not going to play.

[moof]

He'll go on to be a world class defender. Though probably not a this club, unfortunately.

[Section_31]

If he didn't, I doubt he'd done as well for Uruguay as he has.

 

I can count on one hand how many South American international defenders were actually any good, they just don't seem to value them, second only to goalkeepers. Remember Junior Baiano? Fucking hell.

 

Most South American defenders seem to get by either through using pace to recover from fuck ups, or just kicking you in the throat.

[Captain]

Then your hand has more fingers than mine. If only we'd signed Lucio when I wanted us to.

[Babb'sBurstNad]

I don't like writing off young talent, but he got pushed around by players half his size, always seemed to let the ball bounce and get caught under it and sadly lacked the pace or strength to make amends.

[Carvalho Diablo]

I don't like writing off young talent' date=' but he got pushed around by players half his size, always seemed to let the ball bounce and get caught under it and sadly lacked the pace or strength to make amends.[/quote']

 

You know, while I agree with all of that, that could equally apply to all four of our centre backs this season.

 

All of them.

 

The likes of Benteke and Lukaku terrified them.

[Babb'sBurstNad]

You know, while I agree with all of that, that could equally apply to all four of our centre backs this season.

 

All of them.

 

The likes of Benteke and Lukaku terrified them.

 

Fair point, but Lukaku and Benteke are beasts, Coates was getting bullied by players he had every right to swat aside.

 

I just don't get why he's never gone on loan, more playing time might have settled his nerves and maybe he could've bulked up a bit and got used to the physicality of the league.

[Jairzinho]

Then your hand has more fingers than mine. If only we'd signed Lucio when I wanted us to.

 

Thiago Silva is currently one of the best centre backs in the world as well.

[TheHowieLama]

get by either through using pace to recover from fuck ups, or just kicking you in the throat.

 

Two really good attributes to have in a CB - especially a young one.

[Trucker Paddy]

He'll go on to be a world class defender. Though probably not a this club' date=' unfortunately.[/quote']

 

Pretty much my feelings on it. Like any young player a game every 6 weeks or so is no use, he needs to play regularly to iron out the flaws.

[Hand Shandy]

 

I can count on one hand how many South American international defenders were actually any good' date=' they just don't seem to value them, second only to goalkeepers. Remember Junior Baiano? Fucking hell.

 

Most South American defenders seem to get by either through using pace to recover from fuck ups, or just kicking you in the throat.[/quote']

 

Who was that Uruguayan who used to play for Juve?

 

Hard as nails and a fucking animal. Decent defender as well...

[Hand Shandy]

The joys of Google... Paolo Montero was the fella.

 

Now there was a player who wouldn't think twice about kicking you in the throat.

[J-V]

The joys of Google... Paolo Montero was the fella.

Now there was a player who wouldn't think twice about kicking you in the throat.

 

A superb summary of the player.

[Code]

The joys of Google... Paolo Montero was the fella.

 

Now there was a player who wouldn't think twice about kicking you in the throat.

 

You had to use google to know that?

 

Are you 12?

[Gym Beglin]

I think Coates will go on and be a top class centre back for some Italian team.

 

I just think you need more in your locker in this division. Not because it's so good, but because it's so open and like a game of basketball, and so disorganised.

 

The centre backs need to be physical specimens, a team's get-out-of-jail-free-card, capable of covering ground like a forward, and leaping like a salmon, and also with an upper body like a rugby league player, and some modicum of game intelligence to know to give the ball simply and not to do stupid things with it. Two things that these players do not need to be able to do (1) be great technical footballers, (2) turn quickly and sharply.

 

Thiago Silva is ace. Not too big, not too small, just an athlete but he can also play. You want the 6'1" lads, not the 6'4" ones so much.

 

I still think Coady could be a class centre back.

 

If you ask me, and most people do, I think Gerrard could take over from Carragher at the back. Stop being awkward Stevie, be the worlds best centre back you selfish bastard.