*Shakes head* Everton again.

[Pidge]

The pro-competition blues here, looking out for the little guys...

 

Pretty sure Luton have been successfully growing their business, sustainably competing at a range of levels while you've been wrecking your future for bragging rights and vanity projects. 

 

[bizzle10]

2 hours ago, Megadrive Man said:

They fear for them, they really do.

turns out we dont need to fear for them because they fear for themselves

[Anubis]

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Ffp will never be voted out now either unless there is an independent regulator. When 14 clubs are required to overturn the rules it will never happen as you'll always have a Luton or Bournemouth who are more than happy to reap the financial benefits with no real desire to grow as a club any further than what they are now.

 

 

The Sly/Scab/Sinister/Cartel 2.

[Bobby Hundreds]

So clubs without ambition want to hamper those with it, is that how they felt about the super league that they where holding the big clubs back and they should applaud us wanting to go on to better things.

[Harry Squatter]

Evertonians remind me of that woman on Question time who voted Tory for years then kicked off when her tax credits were cut. 

 

They've never been arsed about anyone but themselves and have enjoyed Man city beating us to league titles a bit too much. They've been bragging about being rich and how Usmanovs dodgy money was going to get them all these great players. 

 

However, now that something has directly affected them because theyve wasred a load of money and they are still shit they are moaning non stop how unfair it is and trying to get everyone on their side to feel sorry for them. 

 

 

 

 

[Bjornebye]

1 hour ago, Pidge said:

The pro-competition blues here, looking out for the little guys...

 

Pretty sure Luton have been successfully growing their business, sustainably competing at a range of levels while you've been wrecking your future for bragging rights and vanity projects. 

 

Hang on, so they’re suggesting the smaller clubs should just bend over and be happy to stay shit so Everton can cheat their way to safety? A BREED!!!! 

[Anubis]

Purslow on Villa sailing close to the wind regarding PSR - but of course, Christian. But of course.

 

https://www.football.london/chelsea-fc/financial-fair-play-record-losses-28756962

 

 

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Former chief executive Christian Purslow suggested that a 'reboot' of FFP rules are required to allows teams like Villa fair opportunities to compete with the top teams.

"I think that these rules never ended up where they were meant to go," he told talkSPORT.

 

"These rules were initially initiated by Michel Platini. It was French-led way to tackle the ever-increasing superiority of English clubs. In 2008, three English clubs participated in the semi-finals of what Michel viewed as the European Cup - we call it the Champions League.

 

"Two of them, Liverpool and Manchester United, were swimming in debt from their takeovers. Chelsea had a large amount of shareholder debt. They began as a crusade to not allow debt in the sport, because it was risky, damaging and it was enabling clubs to spend crazy money. There was no mention of debt in the final drafting of Financial Fair Play in 2010 and 2011.

 

"It changed. It became about clubs breaking even, living within their resources. I think that that has had a series of unintended consequences, the most obvious one being that...when Eddie Howe said in the first week of January that we're going to have to sell players to buy players, that was a seismic moment for the average football fan like me.

 

"This club is owned by an impossibly wealthy owner, who is highly ambitious, we've seen what they've done in golf. They didn't buy Newcastle to be a mid-table side, they want to challenge the elite, the establishment. They've got the money, there's no question of sustainability. They're using real cash but they're having to sell players, ironically, probably to the 'Big Six' who benefit.

 

"That feels wrong. The first unintended consequence is that we shouldn't be using these rules to prevent really well-funded new owners restructuring and improving clubs in the period after a takeover. I would like to see reboot of the rules, which treats clubs post-takeovers differently. Maybe over a period of time, maybe three years, and if they submit their plans which involve losses, they have to be funded with real cash, guaranteed.

 

"For a period of time, they should be allowed to improve their clubs. That's been the way of English football since Victorian times. It might've been butchers and bakers buying clubs back then, not nation states or billionaires, but we need to do that. Then the second unintended consequence of FFP, and it's terrible, is accountancy-led decisions to sell homegrown talent to comply with FFP.

 

"As night follows day, if you have a set of rules which require you to make profit, and if you're trying to compete with the Big Six, complying with the rules, you have to spend substantial amounts of your turnover on your wage-bill just to be vaguely competitive. Villa are more than competitive this season with a wage-bill that is half of that at a club in the Big Six. You can do it, but in the long run over time it's very difficult.

 

"So how do you comply and have a competitive wage-bill? You have to generate profit. How do you generate profit? Selling players, one of the most profitable sales are players who are in the books for nothing. Academy players. I don't think anybody writing those rules in 2008, 2009, 2010, ever thought through round five corners to the end game, where Chelsea would be a club without Mason Mount, Tammy Abraham, Ruben Loftus-Cheek.

 

"Incredibly, probably their player of the season Conor Gallagher might have to be sold to comply with FFP. Football fans dream of their homegrown players being in the middle of a team for the best part of a decade. I think that needs to be rebooted - my recommendation would be to find incentives to keep homegrown players in those clubs. Maybe strip their wages out of the FFP calculator to give an incentive to keep Conor Gallagher and not spend £100m in the transfer market, which anyone can see is crazy.

 

"Essentially I think the rules need rebooting, and the proposed rules which are basically to mimic UEFA's new rules is going to make it harder, not easier, for teams outside of the elite and the establishment to compete. I don't think any reasonable football fan thinks Newcastle's or Manchester City's owners have been bad for football."

 

 

Anyone left who still thinks the man isn't a thoroughgoing cunt?

[Barrington Womble]

4 minutes ago, Anubis said:

Purslow on Villa sailing close to the wind regarding PSR - but of course, Christian. But of course.

 

https://www.football.london/chelsea-fc/financial-fair-play-record-losses-28756962

 

 

 

 

Anyone left who still thinks the man isn't a thoroughgoing cunt?

Sounds like a bloke looking for a job. 

[Pete]

7 minutes ago, Anubis said:

Purslow on Villa sailing close to the wind regarding PSR - but of course, Christian. But of course.

 

https://www.football.london/chelsea-fc/financial-fair-play-record-losses-28756962

 

 

 

 

Anyone left who still thinks the man isn't a thoroughgoing cunt?

This from the man who sacked Rafa and replaced him with the owl? 
Yup.  Proper cunt. 

[Mudface]

20 minutes ago, Anubis said:

Purslow on Villa sailing close to the wind regarding PSR - but of course, Christian. But of course.

 

https://www.football.london/chelsea-fc/financial-fair-play-record-losses-28756962

 

 

 

 

Anyone left who still thinks the man isn't a thoroughgoing cunt?

 

Sounds like he wants a future where clubs are owned by rich nation states' sovereign wealth funds or money laundering gangsters like Usmanov and Abramovich.

 

[Anubis]

Come and get me Saudi League!

[Anubis]

Meanwhile, back with Everton, this guy is being way too reasonable for GOT.

 

 

Tony’s Carp

Player Valuation: £35m

• Today at 2:13 PM

• #28,187

riddick said:

It's madness that the 14 "other" clubs in the Premier League are agreeing to this. They could easily call for an emergency vote and quash all this in no time. It makes no sense that the ONLY teams that are allowed to operate at a loss are the Scab 6 that got in before these were rules were made.

But that isn’t the case. There are massive losses throughout the league. All FFP really is designed to do is limit the loss according to revenue. For financial health that isn’t the evil aim some make it out to be.

The irony of the discussion about Villa and how they are being unfairly constrained by FFP is that they’d almost be certainly be worse off without it- without FFP Newcastle would’ve spent their almost infinite wealth and rocketed past them, likewise without FFP Chelsea or Man U who apparently are both on the limit would have no constraints. If it was just done according to actual owner wealth rather than revenue the likes of Villa would have no chance.

Everyone wants everyone else constrained, and that’s why it got voted in. Yes, you can argue it locks in existing inequality…but you can also argue it prevents it from getting worse.

[Harry Squatter]

26 minutes ago, Anubis said:

Meanwhile, back with Everton, this guy is being way too reasonable for GOT.

 

 

Tony’s Carp

Player Valuation: £35m

• Today at 2:13 PM

• #28,187

riddick said:

It's madness that the 14 "other" clubs in the Premier League are agreeing to this. They could easily call for an emergency vote and quash all this in no time. It makes no sense that the ONLY teams that are allowed to operate at a loss are the Scab 6 that got in before these were rules were made.

But that isn’t the case. There are massive losses throughout the league. All FFP really is designed to do is limit the loss according to revenue. For financial health that isn’t the evil aim some make it out to be.

The irony of the discussion about Villa and how they are being unfairly constrained by FFP is that they’d almost be certainly be worse off without it- without FFP Newcastle would’ve spent their almost infinite wealth and rocketed past them, likewise without FFP Chelsea or Man U who apparently are both on the limit would have no constraints. If it was just done according to actual owner wealth rather than revenue the likes of Villa would have no chance.

Everyone wants everyone else constrained, and that’s why it got voted in. Yes, you can argue it locks in existing inequality…but you can also argue it prevents it from getting worse.

Which is basically the argument that they can't get their heads around. They probably think the government will at some point let Usmanov do what he wants and spunk more of his money on them. But they are owned by someone who won't put any more money in and if sold they will be owned by some dodgy unambitious US chancers who never spend any of their own cash. 

 

At the moment they have no money so if ffp was abolished Chelsea, City, man Utd and Newcastle would just spend whatever they wanted. The only good thing for them is that FSG wouldn't bankroll any massive spending spree so at least we would be left behind which would make them happy. 

 

If FFP was abolished and Liverpool were taken over by an owner with unlimited funds their fans would want it reversed to stop Liverpool spending money. They only hate the rules now because Liverpool have been successful and they haven't while they have been in place. The Sly 6 is just Bitter Evertonian speak for Liverpool Football Club. 

 

 

[DalyanPete]

39 minutes ago, Harry Squatter said:

Which is basically the argument that they can't get their heads around. They probably think the government will at some point let Usmanov do what he wants and spunk more of his money on them. But they are owned by someone who won't put any more money in and if sold they will be owned by some dodgy unambitious US chancers who never spend any of their own cash. 

 

At the moment they have no money so if ffp was abolished Chelsea, City, man Utd and Newcastle would just spend whatever they wanted. The only good thing for them is that FSG wouldn't bankroll any massive spending spree so at least we would be left behind which would make them happy. 

 

If FFP was abolished and Liverpool were taken over by an owner with unlimited funds their fans would want it reversed to stop Liverpool spending money. They only hate the rules now because Liverpool have been successful and they haven't while they have been in place. The Sly 6 is just Bitter Evertonian speak for Liverpool Football Club. 

 

 

Well said H.

[DalyanPete]

1 hour ago, Anubis said:

Purslow on Villa sailing close to the wind regarding PSR - but of course, Christian. But of course.

 

https://www.football.london/chelsea-fc/financial-fair-play-record-losses-28756962

 

 

 

 

Anyone left who still thinks the man isn't a thoroughgoing cunt?

Very quiet in here.

[Ron B]

2 hours ago, Anubis said:

Purslow on Villa sailing close to the wind regarding PSR - but of course, Christian. But of course.

 

https://www.football.london/chelsea-fc/financial-fair-play-record-losses-28756962

 

 

 

 

Anyone left who still thinks the man isn't a thoroughgoing cunt?

Purslow always does a magnificent job of putting together a cogent, coherent, well-constructed argument which falls apart immediately if you have any knowledge of whatever topic he’s blathering about. 

[manwiththestick]

26 minutes ago, Ron B said:

Purslow always does a magnificent job of putting together a cogent, coherent, well-constructed argument which falls apart immediately if you have any knowledge of whatever topic he’s blathering about. 

Hey! That's the Fernando Torres of finance you're talking about there.

[Babb'sBurstNad]

Purslow just wants to be the next Staveley. 

[Bjornebye]

2 minutes ago, Babb'sBurstNad said:

Purslow just wants to be the next Staveley. 

He hasn’t got the courage 

[Reckoner]

1 hour ago, Ron B said:

Purslow always does a magnificent job of putting together a cogent, coherent, well-constructed argument which falls apart immediately if you have any knowledge of whatever topic he’s blathering about. 

Great description. I started off reading that thinking, ‘all sounds reasonable, go on, hmm that’s interesting’ then by the end was fucking seething and lost for words.

Saudi Arabia sports washing a once proud working class club is fine. Restrictions on their spending ‘feels wrong ‘. I just can’t.

[Carra_is_legend]

Purslow looks like someone who only goes to a wine bar to pick up girls but comes home every night empty and has a wank.

[Harry Squatter]

Fuck Hodgson and Fuck Purslow. 

[Harry Squatter]

 

 

[KMD7]

They're fucking mental 

[an tha]

5 minutes ago, Harry Squatter said:

 

 

Well Mandela did go down....