Arne Slot

[VladimirIlyich]

10 hours ago, cloggypop said:

 

Slot

That simple eh? Arnie Slot. The mileage for puns increases.

[El Rojo]

The recruitment thing will obviously be key. It would make sense for Slot to have a reasonable say in who we sell or buy. 

[Torvald Utne]

6 minutes ago, El Rojo said:

The recruitment thing will obviously be key. It would make sense for Slot to have a reasonable say in who we sell or buy. 

Is that clever word play based on the Dutch translation?  (Although I suppose you put a key in a slot too)

 

Anyway, I find it odd that managers/coaches have contracts instead of just being an employee.

[eric rotterdam]

He is the best i have ever seen… i have been a feyenoord season ticket holder for over 30 years and i have never ever seen any more attractive football…. He is going to make it work 

[El Rojo]

1 minute ago, eric rotterdam said:

He is the best i have ever seen… i have been a feyenoord season ticket holder for over 30 years and i have never ever seen any more attractive football…. He is going to make it work 

Hope that’s your real name.

[Mook]

2 minutes ago, eric rotterdam said:

He is the best i have ever seen… i have been a feyenoord season ticket holder for over 30 years and i have never ever seen any more attractive football…. He is going to make it work 

 

5 posts in 11 years is some serious lurking, Mr Rotterdam. 

[Aventus]

13 minutes ago, Mook said:

 

5 posts in 11 years is some serious lurking, Mr Rotterdam. 

Only makes me trust him more. 

[Lee909]

don't believe for a second he is signing a 2 year deal. They'd need to renegotiate next summer. I could see a 2 year deal where we can add a third next summer maybe. But not a straight 2 year deal,especially after paying 10ml in compo. If it is 2 years speaks volumes that they are not confident 

 

 

 

[Barrington Womble]

34 minutes ago, Lee909 said:

don't believe for a second he is signing a 2 year deal. They'd need to renegotiate next summer. I could see a 2 year deal where we can add a third next summer maybe. But not a straight 2 year deal,especially after paying 10ml in compo. If it is 2 years speaks volumes that they are not confident 

 

 

 

Klopp only got 3. Then before his 1st was out they signed him to another 6. 

[razor]

1 hour ago, eric rotterdam said:

He is the best i have ever seen… i have been a feyenoord season ticket holder for over 30 years and i have never ever seen any more attractive football…. He is going to make it work 

 

Love you, Ezza!  Best post of the day.  Thank you!

 

* But know that this will be bookmarked.  Just saying.

[TheHowieLama]

Arne Slot - he is damn Near Lost

 

[Anubis]

1 hour ago, eric rotterdam said:

He is the best i have ever seen… i have been a feyenoord season ticket holder for over 30 years and i have never ever seen any more attractive football…. He is going to make it work 

Always good to have a first hand account from somebody who has watched him at length. Just a bit sad for Feyenoord fans that they’re losing him. Hopefully the guy you get from Arsenal will have a similar attacking philosophy as Arteta’s team.

[VladimirIlyich]

7 hours ago, TheHowieLama said:

Arne Slot - he is damn Near Lost

 

Divock has aged rapidly since leaving us!

[TD_LFC]

Doesn't pay to give managers long contracts in their first deal and will pay even less with the new Profit and Sustainability rules coming in.

 

Chelsea have found that out to their cost when appointing their managers as they end up paying large compensation fee's for appointing them and then they're on the hook for large exceptional costs when they have to fire them.

 

Plus as someone has already said, Klopp got 3 initially and if Slott gets in the door and is looking like he'll be successful he'll be renewed pretty quickly.

[Jennings]

At times like this, I like to rely on considering what the Everton board would do. Those guys seem to get stuff right. 

[Bobby Hundreds]

6 minutes ago, Jennings said:

At times like this, I like to rely on considering what the Everton board would do. Those guys seem to get stuff right. 

You saying we should massively cheat the league, all its clubs and the entirety of sport only to get worse and potentially destroy ourselves through greed and our own delusions that we are bigger than what we actually are.

[TheSire]

13 hours ago, TD_LFC said:

It's the same structure we had in the early days of Klopp.

 

Manager will be part of the process but won't need to spend time doing any leg work.

I agree. I think there's far too much to deal with these days. Klopp probably burnt out from having too much to juggle in the later year.

[Scott_M]

11 hours ago, eric rotterdam said:

He is the best i have ever seen… i have been a feyenoord season ticket holder for over 30 years and i have never ever seen any more attractive football…. He is going to make it work 

 

[Scott_M]

Could somebody kindly post this please?

 

[TD_LFC]

Here you go.

 

https://archive.ph/wasaS#selection-2573.4-2573.89

 

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Liverpool taking a risk on Arne Slot is a victory for coaches with it all to prove

The great inconvenience that attends the grand idea of succession planning is that the moment when one’s managerial legend chooses to take his leave, there is never any guarantee that the preferred successor is ready to step into his shoes.

Xabi Alonso had made it quite clear to Liverpool that after just 18 months as a coach, despite the triumph of the current title-winning season, he did not feel ready to walk away from Bayer Leverkusen. Ruben Amorim was eventually judged to be too wedded to the 3-4-3 system to be viable. Roberto De Zerbi did not fit either. Luciano Spalletti had the Euros with Italy to get out the way first. Julian Nagelsmann stayed with Germany. Thomas Tuchel was never a consideration. Ernesto Valverde might have been a temporary solution for a couple of years – but temporary until what?

 

Arne Slot is not a placeholder – the club’s remodelled hierarchy are firmly behind their man. They believe they have appointed a manager who meets all their most important criteria and whose personality will emerge over time as one capable of fronting up this globally famous, locally rooted sporting behemoth. A risk? Unquestionably, but Liverpool cut their cloth accordingly. That said, another 24 hours like Saturday and one could say that the Jurgen Klopp succession is getting progressively easier.

There have been simpler managerial appointments at Liverpool: Rafael Benitez in 2004, or Klopp in 2015. Benitez was one of the two brightest young managers in Europe when he was appointed, a Uefa Cup winner, twice a Liga winner and still the last save Diego Simeone to win the Spanish title with a club outside the big two. Klopp had done something similar in defiance of the Bayern Munich hegemony in Germany, as well as reach a Champions League final.

Slot is not in that league when it comes to reputation. Yet for younger managers it is harder now to kick the door down in the way that Benitez and Jose Mourinho did 20 years ago, and even Klopp a decade or so hence. Mourinho won a Champions League and Uefa Cup with Porto before he was appointed by Chelsea in 2004. If it was an astonishing feat then, and unthinkable now.

Rafael Benitez had already won the Uefa Cup as well as two La Liga titles with Valencia when he was appointed Liverpool manager Credit: Reuters/Ian Hodgson

Slot is 45, the same age Benitez was when he joined Liverpool. Beyond the domestic game in Holland, Slot has reached a Uefa Europa Conference League final in 2022, where he was beaten by Mourinho’s Roma. Yet the great divide between the wealthiest clubs and the rest, including those in Holland, make it difficult for coaches to have the kind of Europe-wide impact their predecessors once did.

 

Erik ten Hag reached a Champions League semi-final with Ajax – enough to make his reputation and, along with three Dutch titles, propel him into the Manchester United job. Domestically and in Europe, Alonso has excelled at Leverkusen, with only the fourth-highest wage bill in the Bundesliga, but he is the exception rather than rule. The league title in England, Spain, Germany and France, as well as the Champions League, tends to be won in the main by a small group of clubs that are often served by an even smaller group of managers.

It is notable that, on that basis, winning the Europa League can be very good for your career. Three of the managerial winners in the last four seasons subsequently landed Premier League jobs. In short, Premier League clubs are eagerly looking out for some comparative evidence that promising coaches can excel out of their domestic game – and when they do, opportunities emerge.

Slot’s style of play, and the success he has had with Feyenoord has got him so far, but his timing has been impeccable. Having turned down Tottenham last summer he has emerged at the head of an admittedly limited field 12 months later to land an even bigger job.

In terms of perception, Slot is principally not helped by the struggles previous Dutch coaches have endured in translating success in the Dutch game to the Premier League. Guus Hiddink, Louis Van Gaal and Ronald Koeman had already proved themselves to varying degrees outside of Holland by the time they arrived, and those three are arguably the most successful. After that Ten Hag, Martin Jol and, further back, Ruud Gullit, are not inarguable hits. Rene Meulensteen, Dick Advocaat and Frank De Boer barely managed a full 38-game season between them.

Erik ten Hag has struggled to reproduce the football played by his Ajax side in the Premier League Credit: Getty Images/Michael Regan

The modern revolution in data analytics, and even the developments in the last three years, make all these past appointments much more of a finger in the wind decision than the kind of research one might expect Liverpool to have done with Slot. The club have, along with Brentford and Brighton, been at the sharp edge in English football when it comes to refining a proprietary data model. One which, among other things, can make valuable comparisons between performances of players and coaches in different leagues.

There is always a temptation in some quarters to mock this approach – that old distrust of innovation that is English football’s trademark. Some clubs have certainly applied the data in ways that are unrealistic. But a way of successfully analysing performance that strips away many of the variables of chance and luck to scrutinise the principal strengths of a player and a coach in a remarkable leap forward. Besides, it is not as if clubs have not made bad managerial appointments for the 100 years before analytics became possible.

If Slot has passed those tests then the examination of his credentials will indeed have been rigorous. He will have the backing of the new Liverpool hierarchy: sporting director Richard Hughes as well as Michael Edwards who now assumes the role that Mike Gordon, the president of owners Fenway Sports Group occupied for much of the Klopp years.

It was Gordon who ultimately signed off the big decisions through that era, with Edwards in what is now Hughes’ role. Now Edwards has the final say, when it comes to appointing managers or acquiring partner clubs for a multi-club system. Needless to say, both men have much riding on the success of Slot – whom they believe is the right man at a difficult time.

 

[Red74]

Got a feeling this fellas gonna be a 12 month stop gap till xabi becomes available. If he exceeds expectations then we’ve lucked out but will be surprised to see him here long term.

[TD_LFC]

This stop gap idea is so fucking stupid.

[Lee909]

The more you read about Slot second season(title season) at Feyenoord is extraordinary. They sold 8 players,lost other loanees for 70ml euro and spent just over half of that. The money they sold Luis Sinisterra to Leeds(25ml euro) was spent on Hanko 8.3ml,Timber 7.4ml,Gimenez 6ml, Piaxao 4.5ml. To them mould that team into champions that same season is a great achievement. They are on for a similar points total this year but PSV have been superb

[SasaS]

I just hope he is a fearless no nonsense Dutchman.

[Scott_M]

5 hours ago, TD_LFC said:

Here you go.

 

https://archive.ph/wasaS#selection-2573.4-2573.89

 

 

Cheers.