Tottenham (A) - Sat 30th Sep 2023 (5:30pm)

[Moo]

2 minutes ago, an tha said:

In all this shitshow there is a great opportunity here for us to really shine a light on the officiating....we are as high profile as it gets and we should cleverly leverage this to get the spotlight shining at full brightness on PGMOL and how they are operating and how we are being officiated.

 

Demento would be all over this if it was happening in his day to him, we need to do same - we need to be cute about it, but we absolutely need to be all over it.

 

 

 

It wouldn't have happened to them as he was dealing with referees that were leaning towards Man Utd anyway. Klopp would be like an angry man shouting at a cloud. 

I honestly don't think we can do anything about this short term except rebuff their so called explanations and apologies, just play it with a straight bat "we don't accept the explanation/apology". It would take support from influential people within football to achieve anything right now, which won't happen.  I think we can only take a longer term view, get an analyst in to review every single match in the PL every week and make a dossier and if it's damning in their anti-LFC agenda then present it to the PGMOL/FA and ask them what they're going to do about it.

[Mudface]

1 minute ago, Moo said:

 

It wouldn't have happened to them as he was dealing with referees that were leaning towards Man Utd anyway. Klopp would be like an angry man shouting at a cloud. 

I honestly don't think we can do anything about this short term except rebuff their so called explanations and apologies, just play it with a straight bat "we don't accept the explanation/apology". It would take support from influential people within football to achieve anything right now, which won't happen.  I think we can only take a longer term view, get an analyst in to review every single match in the PL every week and make a dossier and if it's damning in their anti-LFC agenda then present it to the PGMOL/FA and ask them what they're going to do about it.

 

Big opportunity for Usher here. Although he'll need to start watching the City games.

[an tha]

VAR graphic appeared on motd but with no lines and no decision.

 

Laughable.

[RedHeadedRed]

51 minutes ago, an tha said:

Why is he flagging - they are supposed to leave them be now aren't they unless miles off 

They are it's like they don't know their own rules, it's just staggeringly bad

[Jennings]

 

[Mudface]

3 minutes ago, Jennings said:

 

 

Hmm. Sounds like bollocks to me. All the VAR has to do is tell the on field ref it's a goal. You can hear it very clearly when rugby refs ask for clarification- 'I can award a try?' etc. What's with this 'check complete' with no further clarification shite?

[KMD7]

5 minutes ago, Jennings said:

 

 

What a load of bull. 

 

So going by that why didn't Darren England, when he saw that Spurs were awarded the goal go back to the ref and explain his mistake? 

[KevieG]

3 minutes ago, Jennings said:

 

My word. 

 

This is the problem with lies covering up lies. 

 

Why didn't the var just say it was a goal when he noticed the restart wasn't from the centre circle. 

 

This is getting to the point where you could nearly sue

[Bobby Hundreds]

Was van dykes "sorry" not enough to avoid an extra game ban and a 100 grand fine. Corrupt cunts they've cost us 2 points, we've lost the league a couple of times by just one point and weirdly they've had fucked up refereeing decides involved too you fucking bent cunts.... oh sorry inept!

[Red74]

I’m far too late to the party here and everything’s already been said  but 

 

1) does everyone agree that we should have got a penalty when Gomez was clattered into? They checked that on VAR and still let the corner stand when it clearly shown Gomez kicked then ball out after getting booted. Isn’t this clear &

obvious 

 

2) Luis Diaz and Jota are shite when they get too many minutes. Last 20 mins of each game is all they should be getting here as that’s when they’re most effective.

[gkmacca]

17 minutes ago, ZonkoVille77 said:

"Sorry" just isn't good enough either. There needs to be real penalties applied. What, I've no idea. But it can't be ok to continously fuck up and then just say "sorry" because that just dilutes the apology. Fines need to be handed out to refs and the likes of Howard Webb. The loss of money is the only thing that will make these cunts wake up.

As I said, we need a high-powered legal team to trawl through this. Take the error of playing someone who hasn't been registered, or one of those other errors of paperwork - that's usually a point deduction and a fine or a replay. That's a tad more than an 'acknowledgement of human error'. So there's a matter of legal consistency here: you do not have to accept one body refusing the kind of punishments that other bodies get, just because, well, it doesn't fancy it.

[an tha]

Shearer for once spot on

 

That vapid clown richards of course adding fuck all of note 

[gkmacca]

5 minutes ago, Mudface said:

 

Hmm. Sounds like bollocks to me. All the VAR has to do is tell the on field ref it's a goal. You can hear it very clearly when rugby refs ask for clarification- 'I can award a try?' etc. What's with this 'check complete' with no further clarification shite?

 

'Nuts and bolts'? Just nuts.

[an tha]

18 minutes ago, Jennings said:

Fines, Dropping refs, Binning the VAR operator. None of this is gonna have the reach needed.

 

Can't believe I am quoting a Manc here, but Goldbridge calls it. This is massive now. VAR has royally fucked football over and it needs an overhaul.

 

 

They haven't actually apologised though have they....

[Torvald Utne]

Pleasantly surprised to see shearer pointing out that Jota's first was a bullshit yellow

 

(And I still don't see contact for the second, stupid as he was to attempt)

[Bobby Hundreds]

10 minutes ago, Jennings said:

 

Okay I want the point then. That was a legitimate goal. I want the fucking point you cheating bastards. United got a penalty kick after the final whistle I want that point you fucking league shaping inconsistent bastards.

[Carvalho Diablo]

25 minutes ago, ZonkoVille77 said:

"Sorry" just isn't good enough either. There needs to be real penalties applied. What, I've no idea. But it can't be ok to continously fuck up and then just say "sorry" because that just dilutes the apology. Fines need to be handed out to refs and the likes of Howard Webb. The loss of money is the only thing that will make these cunts wake up.

And jail time.

[gkmacca]

To say that VAR has meesed up is like saying a car has messed up. If you drive a car properly, rather than drive it coked out of your head with a towel tied over your eyes straight into a wall, it functions well enough and provides a service. Same with VAR. What needs to end is people using it who either don't understand what it is there to do, or can't be arsed to use it for what it's there to do.

[col06]

There still making stuff up as they go along no accountability its well dodgy you can't keep making excuses for "supposed mistakes"

[KevieG]

If Var is chalking off a legitimate goal, by their own admission, just give us the point. 

[Babb'sBurstNad]

15 minutes ago, Jennings said:

 

 

Called it.

 

*pats self on back*

 

A proper brain fart, but the onside was so obvious, and the protocol for not flagging marginal offsides so established, that the lino deserves as much flak.

[Babb'sBurstNad]

If they're keeping VAR then mic them up. Have three appeals each, a maximum of a minute for a check, and replays for red cards played at full speed three times. If you can't make a decision in that time it isn't a clear and obvious error.

[rubble-rouser]

26 minutes ago, Jennings said:

Fines, Dropping refs, Binning the VAR operator. None of this is gonna have the reach needed.

 

Can't believe I am quoting a Manc here, but Goldbridge calls it. This is massive now. VAR has royally fucked football over and it needs an overhaul.

 

 

Always knew he was stringy in Disguise 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

They’ve simply got to release the audio now. 
 

All it would’ve took was for the VAR - Darren England - to clarify that he meant that it was a goal when he noticed that the restart was a free kick rather than a kick off from the centre circle. 
 

If he didn’t do that, he should never officiate a game again. If he did bring it to Hooper’s attention and the referee decided to ignore him, then Hooper should never officiate a game again. 
 

It would’ve took about 10 seconds to sort it out. 

[Bobby Hundreds]

It's unacceptable that offside gets brushed off, we've lost titles by one point, I'm fucking sick of it. Its not a sport anymore.