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Newcastle (A) - Sun 27th Aug 2023 (4:30pm)


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Getting that card rescinded last week was a finger in the eye to pgmol. They're getting their pound of flesh back and we'll be on the wrong end of a lot of 50/50s up to 70/30s in our favour in every match for the foreseeable.

How joelinton hasn't been booked is a joke. Getting spoke to normally means that's it but he's had 2 more since and nothing.

 

 

 

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Stop blaming the ref. We are bringing ourselves in these situations due to poor players upfront and playing a midfielder as right back. We are incohesive due to Gakpo who simply are good enough for PL, Diaz who is a poor mans Robben ( very limited player except for cutting inside). Due to this we cant trap a ball and the opponents are having such an easy time evey game. 

 

If Nunes and Jota are not good enough to play instead of these two nu they should be sold.

 

We need a right back this window. Arnold should never, ever play rb again.

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1 minute ago, Moo said:

Totally get the Diaz sub, he looked our best attacker no denying that but we need the hardest workers in there now we're down to 10.  It's often been one of the reservations about Diaz, that he doesn't help back as much as we need.

The officials having a shocker.  I don't know the rules anymore but am prepared to accept the red card if the rule supports it.  But that incident with Trent was terrible, totally unsettling.  He gets fouled, throws the ball back onto the field of play and gets a yellow for his trouble.  I'd love to see the rule that says that's a yellow card to the player who was fouled.

It was an uphill battle from there and every player on that pitch new it.

 

He certainly threw the ball at the player - he just happened to be on the field. 

Not what you want to see a few minutes into a testy game from your (now) Captain.

Two games in a row he has put us well on the back foot in a matter of minutes

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1 minute ago, Moo said:

Totally get the Diaz sub, he looked our best attacker no denying that but we need the hardest workers in there now we're down to 10.  It's often been one of the reservations about Diaz, that he doesn't help back as much as we need.

 

 

Don't agree at all to be honest. Get the point but we need so eone who can pick the ball up and run at people, pull off a bit of magic. Can't remember Mo beating a player on a run, or even out sprinting someone with a ball over the top for a while. Gallagher had him nearly every time in the opener. I'd have gone with Gakpo or Mo off. Nunez and Diaz in this as they'll hurt teams over the top better

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Just now, Captain Willard said:

All this hysteria about corruption is missing the point. Trent us lucky to still be on the pitch then he gives away a Sunday league goal then Van Dyke fouls the last man. If the ref was corrupt he would have sent Trent off. There’s no evidence of anything other than we’re playing badly. 

Lucky to be on the pitch for getting booked for being fouled? Behave.

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1 minute ago, BeefStroganoff said:

One thing is for sure we are a team on the decline and Newcastle are a team on the up. Just the general attitude and desire of both clubs are stark.

 

It starts at the top with the ambition of the owners, or lack thereof where ours are concerned.

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The owners could have given Klopp 10bn and he’d still be playing Trent at right back.  It wouldn’t matter.

 

The first thing we should have done this summer is signed a right back.  Second we should have signed two more right backs just in case anyone got injured to avoid playing this cunt there ever again.  We should then have built the midfield around where he fitted or didn’t fit into that.  We haven’t even signed a back up for him.  That’s the season written off right there.  There’s going to be plenty more of this as the season goes on but it’s still hard to prepare yourself for it.  


I said I think it will take Klopp about 20 league games before he finally abandons the hybrid mess completely but I’m beginning to think regardless of that he will never move Trent from right back permanently.  If that’s the case then I just don’t see a successful future for us again.

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1 minute ago, Captain Willard said:

All this hysteria about corruption is missing the point. Trent us lucky to still be on the pitch then he gives away a Sunday league goal then Van Dyke fouls the last man. If the ref was corrupt he would have sent Trent off. There’s no evidence of anything other than we’re playing badly. 

 

How is he lucky to be on the pitch? Gordon fucking dived and in the first incident Trent was blatantly fouled. 

 

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Trent’s basically made the same mistake in midfield last weekend. He’s good for at least one of those lapses of concentration a game. Today it was compounded by us being narrow and Matip being ahead of him when he let the ball slip under him.

 

Shit like that is why I don’t want him in midfield, especially as an inverted fullback. In my mind at least it’s better if that happens on the wing where presumably you’d have cover behind you and at the least the ball isn’t as close to the center of the goal. So the attacker has more ground to cover to shape up a shot.

 

Overall point being, it doesn’t really matter where he plays at the moment because he loses concentration in what should be fundamentally easy situations. I think it’s easier to hide that when he’s at RB but the real lesson is that he needs to do better because anywhere it happens it’s a problem. 

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