Nunez and Gakpo

[johnsusername]

£100m+

 

 

[LFC 6 Times]

Gakpo will be decent. Nunez is a fucking disaster, anyone who thinks otherwise is fucking kidding themselves.

 

If I hear that fucking "chaos" shite ever again.

 

[Toxteth O'Grady]

Let's not start biting pillows just yet.

Both young and talented players in their first few months in English football and bought for the future.

Both bought with a longer term plan in mind.

I think it's now accepted that this is a transition season at best, but they aren't shit, they've just been introduced into a malfunctioning system where the Midfield behind is all over the place.

It's not ideal obviously, but hopefully this season is short term hardship for longer term gain.

[Elite]

The rest of the team being utter shite doesn't help but they both look like an epic waste of money.

[Freddo]

Nunez looks a poor buy at this stage of his career. Snarling wimp 

[Butch]

What does Gakpo actually do?? Haven't seen him doing anything of note at all. 

Nunez would have been great to have when we were great. 

[ZonkoVille77]

Neither are good enough. 

 

 

 

Diaz was the last successful signing made. These 2 are just farmers league standard. 

 

 

[J-V]

2 minutes ago, Butch said:

What does Gakpo actually do?? Haven't seen him doing anything of note at all. 

Nunez would have been great to have when we were great. 

 

He's literally doing all he's ever done.  You didn't even need to watch him much to see what he'd offer. Lijnders should be sacked for this alone.

[Captain Howdy]

Like I said in the match thread both need to be given time, it’s not looking good though.

[dockers_strike]

They're clearly underperforming but why are these 2 getting pelters when Mo on £350k a week seems to have downed tools?

[LFC 6 Times]

Just now, dockers_strike said:

They're clearly underperforming but why are these 2 getting pelters when Mo on £350k a week seems to have downed tools?

Mo has showcased unbelievable high performance and consistency through out his time with us and has been absolutely instrumental in all our success and despite having a terrible season by his standards he has still managed to score 17 goals in a fucking trainwreck of a team.

[Tarwater]

Nuñez will be a superstar in a couple if years. Gakpo will be playing for Groningen.

[bossy]

Too soon for Gakpo, Nunes will come good. The proviso being we sort the rest of the team out. 

[Toxteth O'Grady]

The issue is that we haven't replaced what Mane and Wijnaldum brought to the team, which was energy, work ethic, tracking back and the ability to keep hold of the ball.

Currently, our full backs are totally exposed because they haven;t had that much defending to do over the last few seasons.

I'm hoping and there's no reason to suggest otherwise, that Klopp knows what he's doing, granted, Carts have been put before Horses and we seem to have loaded up on forwards, but come the summer, with the addition of 2 or 3 midfielders who fit the scheme, then we will be in a much better place.

Granted, it seems madness NOW to go balls deep for Nunez after we got fucked off by Tchouameni, but we get the equivalent player, plus another in the Summer, then we are back on plan.

Of course, that is dependent on the owners actually stumping up the funds, but with Chamberlain and Keita going, plus a couple of others, there should be room for MF signings that the manager wants.

I'm not even playing Devils Advocate for the owners here as I think they are basic at best, but we've got about 9 or 10 MFers (in name only) on the books, shed some of those and we might get who the manager wants.

IF we don't get who the manager wants for MF in the summer, then that's a different argument entirely, but as of now, the boss has been able to sign players he wanted.

Mind he also wanted Keita and Chamberlain.

I wasn't exactly enamoured with the idea of giving Henderson a new 4 year deal and I'm not in favour of extending Firmino, but given the recent track record of competing on all fronts, let;s not piss our pants yet.

It's been obvious for weeks and months now that we have an ageing and injury prone squad and there is an argument that money COULD have been spent more wisely, but Klopp has delivered season on season so let's not write off new, young players as being shit.

[skend04]

Someone drown this thread before it's got a chance to bloom into the inevitable eye AIDS it's destined to become. 

[Karl_b]

[VladimirIlyich]

Its not your money so why worry? They look decent while all behind is a shitshow.  Chill out.

[J-V]

3 minutes ago, Karl_b said:

 

What was that Cartoon called.

[TheHowieLama]

9 minutes ago, Toxteth O'Grady said:

The issue is that we haven't replaced what Mane and Wijnaldum brought to the team, which was energy, work ethic, tracking back and the ability to keep hold of the ball.

 

IF we don't get who the manager wants for MF in the summer, then that's a different argument entirely, but as of now, the boss has been able to sign players he wanted.

 

 

They were also fiercely competitive and took every challenge personally - our left side was frightening defensively/off the ball.

 

 

The second part - that's the question now - has our method of identifying players and who ultimately pulls the trigger on the transfer changed?

 

If the answer is yes and it is now down to Klopp, for whatever reason, that is not something he has had success at.

 

 

[Red Phoenix]

If most of the rest of the team are working well and Gakpo and Nunez with more space and service are still having so many issues then I'll be bothered, at the moment though I'm not overly focusing on them. It's been frustrating watching some of the chances they've missed but with so many other players having problems now as well it's not helping things.

[Toxteth O'Grady]

2 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

 

They were also fiercely competitive and took every challenge personally - our left side was frightening defensively/off the ball.

 

 

The second part - that's the question now - has our method of identifying players and who ultimately pulls the trigger on the transfer changed?

 

If the answer is yes and it is now down to Klopp, for whatever reason, that is not something he has had success at.

 

 

yes to the first part Comrade, spot on and they need replacing with players of similar mentality.

BUT, all the evidence suggests that both Mane and Wijnaldum were Klopp signings as he tried to get both for Dortmund.

 

As for part 2 I really don't know, the evidence would suggest that Edwards was grand at moving players on at a premium, BUT, the stark reality is that nobody wanted Keita or Chamberlain last summer or in this last window, even at knockdown or giveaway prices.

That clearly had a real impact on transfer decisions.

Had those two gone off the wage bill, then the likelihood is that a new Midfielder would've come in.

Plus, nobody could have predicted the regression of Fabinho who now looks like he's retired and that Jones would be out with Hornet stings to his arsehole and general maladies not know to medical science.

In an ideal world, Gerrard would've still been Villa manager and had more money to spend and taken Jones and Chamberlain off us, but our luck, which we have ridden for years has run out.

We have outed no marks for good money and relied on 94th minute Matip headed winners for a 2 seasons or more and that luck has simply run out.

We are where we are, either by bad luck or bad judgment. 

[Creator Supreme]

Both shite in answer to the OP. Next question!

[Red74]

I keep seeing that we need to give them time to settle in and of course that’s right. However, from the minutes spent on the pitch, there is absolutely nothing that can convince you Gakpo will come good here. You’ve got to show some semblance of the talent that got you to where you are but I’ve seen nothing to make me think he’s even a footballer. Nunez has got some ceiling but fuck me. He was just as bad in the World Cup and he was playing with his mates.

 

2 absolute disastrous signings that have set us back 2 years. If offers came in the summer I’d bite their hands off and try and rebuild again. 

[andyj]

Nunez just needs to sort his finishing out and Gakpo has been dropped into the deep end told to swim. Give them time they will both come good

[aws]

Far bigger problems in the team than those two.